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Ago when in the oval office, when donald trump -- dick durbin actually said -- asked about tps, bringing back tps, that is how he went into the racist rhetoric about african nations and haiti. so we are in this weird place where we have to work with what we have. but i know that democrats on the senate like dick durbin were still trying to fight for tps. so it is not like they were not. just that they are dealing with a maniac. >> and last word to you, howard dean. should democrats even be negot...