good evening, sir. thank you for coming on. don, good to be with you. a source is telling cnn that the white house is trying to publicly humiliate tillerson. why do that? why not just fire him? you know, it s funny. the president who made his reputation on firing people on the apprentice doesn t seem to like to do it in real life. so it seems like they re trying to send a very strong signal to secretary tillerson to leave on his own volition by shaming him. it s really unfortunate. i mean, for whatever he s done, and i ve got a lot of concerns about what he s done to the department during his tenure, it s not a real good way to do things. yeah. more importantly, what effect does a public shaming of tillerson have on his ability to do his job effectively? don, that ability was already compromised. what we ve seen time and again over the last year is the secretary advancing a particular policy position on a given issue, and the president coming out within hours or even minute
secretary of state. he has a new piece in the new york times, you should read it. it s fascinating. it s titled, how rex tillerson did so much damage in so little time. good evening, sir. thank you for coming on. don, good to be with you. a source is telling cnn that the white house is trying to publicly humiliate tillerson. why do that? why not just fire him? you know, it s funny. the president who made his reputation on firing people on the apprentice doesn t seem to like to do it in real life. it seems like they re trying to send a very strong signal to secretary tillerson to leave of his own volition by shaming him. it s really unfortunate. for whatever he s done, and i ve got a lot of concerns about what he s done to the department during his tenure, it s not a real good way to do things. yeah. more importantly, what effect does a public shaming of tillerson have on his ability to do his job, effectively? don, that ability was already compromised. what we ve seen t
senate, brooke, how many times have we sat and looked they can t afford to lose more than 2. because many of the things they are trying to do on republican votes only on 50 vote threshold. so if indeed democrats were able to pull out a victory in alabama, that means you can t lose more than one vote on a given issue. it becomes prob mat particular math. no doubt about that. but in the larger picture, let s look at the context this is taking place. on tuesday night we saw sweeping democratic victories across the country in elections. this race, if you don t remember the few weeks back, there was a fox news poll that had the moore doug jones race, the democrats versus republican in alabama in this special election tied. that was crazy and eye popping. and other polls to suggest that moore really was in a lead. but this race was shaping up as
unformed and in cases uninformed policy positions and they shift from time to time. i respect the fact that the president is pragmatic. always willing to work with him on the right track on a given issue. the deal he cut, for example, on the debt ceiling i thought was completely appropriate and gave him credit. others beat him up for it. i thought it was the right thing. my bottom line is, we ll work with him on the right track. but when he moves in a bad direction, we have to check him and if he says things out of bounds, we have to call him out on it. one other question. if you believe that, why are you retiring, congressman? why are the more moderate congressman willing to say that, why say, hang up your coat and say no more? katy, i m 13-0. run for office 13 times. seven congress, four state house, two for state senate. i felt it was the right time and able to do other things. i m 57. might get back in the game at some point. right now, felt it was the right time in thy life to
paraphrase. do i think the president hasn t shown much of a clear ideology. he can be persuaded on a given issue. we saw that with the missile strike against syria that was exactly the kind of thing he would have opposed as a candidate. but seems to have been persuaded by his national security team, which was in full agreement that, that was a proper response, limited response, in response to assad s use of chemical weapons. leland: john mccar mick on duty, on memorial day, present your insights as well. thank you, sir. thank you. leland: molly? we want to return, now, we joining gareth kenny, live at the vietnam veterans memorial in washington. they just finished up with the opening prayer, paying respect to those who have given their lives, ultimate sacrifice for our country. we did not want to dishonor in a respect by reporting during the middle of that. today, though, this ceremony is about two things. honoring those individuals, as