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So is sort of everybodys outrage. i think this thing has kind of ballooned in a way that i think is just not realistic with whats happening on the ground. >> that may well be, but has the irs given republicans the ammunition at least to attack them? has the story gained any traction with the public because its the irs were talking about? >> yeah, the irs, if theres one thing that might be less popular than congress, it could always be the irs. you saw president obama. i was on this trip to minne...

Whats interesting, a year ago, he granted an interview in which he talked about the attack. he denied any direct involvement. but he wasnt exactly in hiding. when you ask the administration about this, why wasnt he captured sooner, they say these things take time. they had to build up a case. they had to have evidence. and so that is what they have been working on since that attack back in 2012. as you know, republicans have criticized the obama administration for not moving more quickly, for no...

Ago by special forceses in libya. that came after an exhaustive investigation by the u.s. government trying to track down those responsible for the benghazi attack. so this is really the first person who is going to face charges related to that attack. its also a political test for the obama administration determined to see the suspect tried in the american judicial system, all while you have republicans calling for him to be sent back to -- or sent to guantanamo bay. of course the obama adminis...