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trial that happened nine years ago. this was the time for contrition, for remorse, and i don t think he did a particularly good job of showing it. you know, one of the classic, classic things you tell your client not to say, don t say you re remorseful because you don t get to see your daughter graduate or you don t get to go to a wedding. that s not remorse. that s self-interest. except for one thing, danny. it worked. it did but my point is, paul, i think this was a much closer call. it was never a slam dunk. i think it did stand in doubt, and even the game system that the nevada parole board has needs four people unanimous. if any of them disagree, it went to the full board and then he could have lost. but whether you thought when i watched the whole thing and i remember exactly where i was when i was watching this whole trial play out that you were covering. you were a child. i was in high school but i remember very clearly, and whether you thought the glove fit or not,