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Returns on equity, and business compared to interest rates being at incredible levels, i just think that if youre looking to tax more i think corp. race,s should be part of that act. >> reporter: here is what interesting, those two gentlemen who started this company in the late 50s got to announce something big at this meeting, and that is they ended up creating the 4 fifth largest company in the united states behind microsoft, exxon mobil, apple and google. and they are still going strong, jon....