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Administration has done, this is why this guy can do diplomacy and the other guys couldnt. they all say, we could have met with kim, but they had no leverage. this president has leverage because because he put a strategy in place, which forces kim to deal with him in a way te has to actually come to the table, so i think we often undersell this president because we so obsessed about what he says, that we often dont really pay attention to what he actually does. >> ed: chris, do we obsess so much...

Of a process. they talked about having reciprocal summits, first in washington, that in moscow, they held a surprise as napa summit in iceland in between. they also talked about modest confidence building measures. it was the beginning of a continuation of a process that had begun in geneva. if that is what we get, thats a pretty good sign. if its something beyond that, its a very good sign. well have to wait and see what it is exactly. >> ed: before we get to those details, as it unfolds here, ...

Of chairman kim. he is 34 years old. he is very poised. he is calm, touching president trumps arm the way president trump tos his arm. on the service, there is this mild camaraderie. as a government official, i look ide.his in terf the media chris wallace and the others, they have no idea what is going on in that room. for all we know there is close to a walk out and back to the tables and even military threats. or its the opposite, that they have a schedule for dismantling, they have specific t...

For? >> reporter: i will go back to the reagan gorbachev era of the 80s. its easy to look back on that say dont like say, its very easy. the fact was that reagan and gorbachev helped in the two summits and 85 and 86. at that point they had established a working relationship and have been having talks but there have been nothing concrete that had been accomplished. it took two full years until the 1987 summit for them to sign a major missile disarmament treaty, the imf treaty, and two years from ...

Sometimes offers these openings. openings for leaders who are able to seize them. we saw it in the 1990s with south africa canned a appar advertise regime that collapsed, disappeared almost overnight. we saw it with reagan and gorbachev. seeing trump and kim reminded me of that the historic opening with the soviet union the relationship between reagan and gorbachev initially an intermediate nuclear forces agreement. but eventually something much more spectacular, the collapse of the soviet syste...

Bends them to his will. steve: we ran the interview with sean hannity 45 minutes him as little rocket man and fire and fury got him to the table. and that because is he a disrupter and doesnt do things the way normal politicians do thats what got him to the table. >> if we think back to reagan its the same thing. reagan with a massive military buildup, announced a strategic defense initiative. all aimed at provoking the soviet union and inviting him into an arms race they believed they couldnt w...

Is there a sense of confidence and trust that they are not going to try tonight each other in the back? having said that, you had the summit in 1985 between reagan and gorbachev, looking back, everybody says, well, that was groundbreaking, it took two years for them to sign their first substantial deal to eliminate all medium-range missiles, and there were a lot of ups and downs and after reykjavik, a very dramatic sense that we were headed for a new cold war. i dont expect this to happen quickl...

Bond. is that just in the moment here? or are these two leaders may be -- >> the answer is we dont know. again, i hearken back to reagan-gorbachev. they had their first meeting in november of 1985, and things seemed to be on a very positive track and then they went very negative. if you remember, the russians took an american journalist from "u.s. news & world report" and made him a prisoner, said he was a spy, high tensions, talk about expelling diplomats, and it was, as a result of that, that ...

>> great answer. michael oss, the only summit i think ive been thrilled by in my adult life was at -- >> reagan and gorbachev. >> yes. and when they emerged, we learned how close they almost came. >> thats why these things are so unpredictable. you know, reagan in that case, that was 86. reagan went to iceland. it was a summit with about a weeks preparation. and reagan went in, had no idea that gorbachev was going to make him this bigoffe ill talk about abolishing all of our ballistic missiles, ...

Cant be so desperate for a deal that youre not going to walk out. reagan did. this is what i worry about with trump. >> we disagree on that. >> okay. >> they should have made the deal. gorbachev wanted to keep the missile defense in the research stage for ten years. reagan, because of richard pearl, who played the john bolton role at this point, said no. either one could have compromised. it turned out it didnt make any difference as missile defense stuff still doesnt work and we could have made...