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November 20, 2019
But i want to ask you about the accusations that started this as to their voracity. first of all, the whistle-blower who apparently was not on the call advised the icig that he or she was concerned that the presidents conduct constituted under title 50 usc section 3033 quite a serious problem abuse or violation of law and executive order, end quote. again, to be clear you didnt hear a violation of law or executive order as you listened to the call? >> sir, i made no judgment about any illegal co...
November 20, 2019
Investigate without spending time investigating a debunked conspiracy theory? >> theres all kinds of corruption to investigate in ukraine. >> but nonetheless you proposed they go ahead and do this investigation with something you thought was thought merit because this was part of an effort to fix the problem giuliani was creating? >> i did not propose it. >> well i think you said you were okay with it or you amended statements to include it because if it would help fix the giuliani problem, was ...
November 20, 2019
>> and you testified ambassador sondland and the president had spoken before the july 25th call? >> that is correct. >> and presumably the white house situation room keeps a record of those calls. >> sir, that was how i was able to confirm it. >> you testified your staff prepared a briefing memo with suggested points for the president to raise on july 25th, points that were consistent with u.s. policy, is that correct? >> thats correct, congressman. >> but the president didnt use those points, d...
November 20, 2019
I think she might have coined it the gordon problem. and i decided to keep track of what ambassador sondland was doing. i didnt necessarily always act on things gordon suggested he believed were important. >> so that was a senior nsc official casting doubt ahead of the testimony. they stood out for their tone. republicans will wanted to curr favor with trump." andrew dechlt siderio, congressional reporter for politico, was in the hearing room again today and is with us again tonight. andrew, is ...
November 19, 2019
He ever raise it, but he did not raise it at the time of the 25 july phone call. >> switching gears a little bit, you strike me as a process guy. and it is nagging at me because you characterized the ambassador sondland linking in whatever way it happened of aid to an investigation as the gordon problem. you said it caused you to roll your eyes, ambassador volker said it was everybody in the july 10th meeting thought it was inappropriate, john bolton characterized this as the drug deal. so seems...
November 19, 2019
Why didnt that happen? >> sir, i cant speak to that. i would generally agree that ambassadors work for secretary of state and the president. >> do you have, you dont have any idea, you worked for him, you dont have any idea why john bolton would characterize what the ambassador was doing as a drug deal, but not rein him in? >> ambassadors dont work for the national security adviser. >> but john bolton is national security adviser, presumably spends time with the secretary of state. i am puzzled ...
November 19, 2019
President zelensky. >> right, but it was before this that dr. hill had told you about to burisma and ambassador sondland in particular his desire for this parallel process to investigate burisma, right? >> yes. >> so you had that association when he received his email asking you about investigations, correct? >> not necessarily. >> no? >> no. >> why not? >> because -- among the discussions that i had with dr. hill were about ambassador sondland, i think she mightve coined it "the gordon problem....
November 19, 2019
General assembly. so i struggle to stay if he ever raised it, but not at the time of the 25 july phone call. >> im switching gears a little bit. you strike me as a process guy. and it is nagging at me, because you characterized the ambassador sondland linking in whatever way it happened of aid to an investigation as the gordon problem. you said it caused you to roll your eyes. ambassador volker said it was everybody in the july 10th meeting felt it was inappropriate. john bolton characterizes it...
November 19, 2019
Hesitate to say did he ever raise it. but he did not raise it at the time of the 25 july phone call. >> okay. switching gears a little bit, you strike me as a process guy. and its nagging at me because you characterized the ambassador sondlands linking, in whatever way it happened, of aid to an investigation as the gordon problem, you said it caused you to roll your eyes. ambassador volker said everybody in the july 10th meeting thought it was inappropriate. john bolton characterizes this as the...
November 19, 2019
State might rein them in. why didnt that happen? >> sir, i cant speak to that. but i would generally agree that ambassadors work for the secretary of state and the president. >> do you have -- you dont have any idea -- you worked for him. you dont have any idea why john bolton would characterize what the ambassador was doing as a drug deal but not rein him in? >> ambassadors dont work for the national security adviser. >> no, but john bolton presumably spends time with the secretary of state. im...