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Frag guile housing market and the economy. what happens as the rates go up? joining me is the president of uni private strategies. thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me. >> kelly: good to have you. but look, were looking at the rates going up 5%. is that a good thing for our economy, especially the beleaguered housing market? >> well, you know, you have to take a look. remember our economics lessons here, ultimately market interest rates and market rates mean rates that are driven...