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Out stuff, it often went to the wealthier people? >> well, without a means test, which was the case in most of roman history. anybody could line up to get these goodies. which contributed to the ultimate bankruptcy of the roman state. >> and one telling graph about the poverty rate is that the advocates of the war on poverty, welfare can say look how the poverty line dropped sharply for five years after the war on poverty began. but then you look at what happened before the war on poverty began ...

President lincoln -- there he is. >> that was the point that i was going to make. it is very difficult for me to parse what the impact of ron is on rand because rand an ron are both so far out there as far as im concerned that theyre at the far end of the fridge -- >> theyre in the freezer. >> -- of the fringe. it may be rand is a serious contender, but that just says something about the gop. >> we will see. glenn beck made $90 million over the last 12 months which is more than oprah winfrey. >>...

>> bill: continuing now with our coverage of the george zimmerman verdict. joining us now from washington, mary katharine ham and juan williams. juan, you heard my talking points. heard the discussions. am i making any mistakes in your opinion. >> its very interesting to me. i know why i watch this show. your source of constant amazement to me. you said you believe zimmerman initiated the fracas and you said that as far as you are concerned he profiled traive martin but then when reverend did he...

>> bill: continuing now with our coverage of the george zimmerman verdict. joining us now from washington, mary katharine ham and juan williams. juan, you heard my talking points. heard the discussions. am i making any mistakes in your opinion. >> its very interesting to me. i know why i watch this show. your source of constant amazement to me. you said you believe zimmerman initiated the fracas and you said that as far as you are concerned he profiled traive martin but then when reverend did he...

>> bill: continuing now with our coverage of the george zimmerman verdict. joining us now from washington, mary katharine ham and juan williams. juan, you heard my talking points. heard the discussions. am i making any mistakes in your opinion. >> its very interesting to me. i know why i watch this show. your source of constant amazement to me. you said you believe zimmerman initiated the fracas and you said that as far as you are concerned he profiled traive martin but then when reverend did he...

Hes not guilty. anywhere along this graph, anywhere along this graph, if you believe, this is where i went a little while ago. anywhere along this graph, then hes not guilty. thats why this case, of showing a case like this, and wondering whether or not there is a reasonable doubt to whether or not he confused that deadly force to protect himself from great bodily harm. the other thing that i think we have probably gotten past, but i want to be clear about is this one. youre going to get all the...

Will, all you want that george wanted to be a cop. and georges calls to law enforcement in the past just had some seeding anger of build up. but dont assume it. prove it, believe it. dont prove it. it just doesnt exist. and dont connect those dots if they have not been connected to you beyond a reasonable doubt by the state. now, lets look at what really happened that night. and lets see the graph is done. so, what were these people doing just before? spend a moment on that to start talking abou...

Anywhere along this graph be, fir along this graph -- anywhere along this graph if you believe -- this is where i went a little while ago -- anywhere along the this graph, then hes not guilty. thats why i said this was the bizarreo case of showing a case like this and wondering whether or not there is a reasonable doubt as to the use, as to whether or not hed have to use that deadly force to protect himself from great bodily harm. the other thing that i think weve probably gotten past but i want...

Innocence beyond a reasonable doubt, now we really get into what happened. you can argue, the state all it wants, that george really wanted to be a cop and georges calls to law enforcement in the past just had some seething anger build- build-up. but dont assume that. prove it, believe it. dont prove it, it just doesnt exist. dont connect those dots if theyve not been connected to you beyond a reasonable doubt by the state. so now lets look at what really happened that night. and lets see the gr...

Y mediterranean village and the pool crushes onto the largest l.e.d. screen in the world which is either at sunset or at sunrise. here in china even with the economy slowing down its clearly bigger is better. back to you, kate. >> wow, that is one impressive building. >> new number one. lets take the show on the road and go see it. >> i get afraid of those high ones. whenever the helicopters blow you flying around you know youre a little too high. when we come back, diet soda supposed to help ...