>> they may not even have to go that far. i think the lesson is that you can terrorize people into not doing anything just by having a law and having the threat out there that somebody could be criminally prosecuted for doing something. >> the comstock act, this is not a hypothetical. there are lots of folks in right-wing circles writing about and talking about this. lisa rubin, thank you. >> thank you. >> that is "all in" on this thursday night. alex wagner starts now. >> good evening. there are women already terrified making choices about bodily economy. >> certainly. >> fear at all levels of american society. thank you, my friend. today donald trump made his first visit to capitol hill. the first time since his followers ransacked the capital on january 6. to understand why trump chose to come back now after more than three years away, you don't have to look as far back as the insurrection. you just have to remember what trump has been asking congress to do since his criminal conviction two weeks ago. the day after trump was convicted of 34 felony counts in his new york hush money case, eight republican senators vowed to oppose all biden nominees and all democratic legislation as retribution. today six republican senators led by j.d. vance put the oppose all biden nominees part of that into writing. senators explained they would block nominees including anyone who suggested the trump prosecutions were reasonable. anyone who opposed trump's guilt. anyone who supported organizations that celebrated the indictment of donald trump and anyone who supported alvin bragg or supported lawfare or censorship in other ways. which is just big enough to include basically anyone president biden nominated. these republican senators say their blockade will last until election day and in practical terms that means the u.s. government will not be able to appoint representatives to things like the u.n. general assembly or the world health organization or even the not particularly political seeming places like the civil aviation organization and public buildings reform board. what exactly do those organizations have to do with prosecuting donald trump? nothing. this is not about policy, it is about retribution. you might remember last year senator tommy tuberville pulled a similar stunt. tuberville became the first senator in history to do a long- term blockade of u.s. military appointments. senator tuberville kept more than 400 qualified servicemembers, 400, from being appointed or promoted for 10 months. all because of a department of defense policy that had nothing to do with those servicemembers. the blockade was such a blatant misuse of power. it was not just democrats who were appalled. there were some of his fellow republican senators -- >> no matter if you believe it or not senator tuberville, this is doing great damage to our military. >> this power is extraordinary that we are given as individual senators, but it is incumbent to use it in a reasonable way. >> everybody uses holds. the key is you put a hold on someone who typically has some kind of control over the issue you are trying to fix. >> there is not one senator in here who could not find a reason to object to an administration policy. in the military. none of us. we could all find something. i hope we don't do this routine. >> i just hope we don't do this routinely. does two times count as a routine? if so this makes it a routine and this time it is not even about the policy disagreement, however tangential. it is so republicans can protest donald trump being found guilty by a jury of his peers. today we also saw 29 republican senators sign onto this letter disparaging the rule of law and saying trump's conviction was nothing short of the evisceration of the american judicial process. so it is safe to say that from now to november the u.s. senate is effectively going to be at a standstill and unable to govern, not because of policy disagreements, but so republicans can perform an act of retribution on donald trump's behalf. as for the house where republicans hold a majority, well, things are looking worse. politico is out with new reporting saying that in the days after trump's conviction trump made a f bomb filled call to speaker johnson. trump's message, we have to overturn this. now a few weeks after that call it looks like speaker johnson's mission is not just to grind the government to a halt like his republican colleagues in the senate. it is to use the power of the government to make trump's criminal concerns go away. by way of an example yesterday, house republican leaders spent the day whipping votes for a bill that would allow presidents charged at the state level to move those cases to federal court. let me check my notes. how many presidents have been criminally charged at the state level again? oh, only one. what an interesting use of congressional power. politico also reports the speaker johnson is in talks with jim jordan about using the appropriations process to target special counsel jack smith and de-fund his investigation. neither of those have the votes to pass yet, but that is the kind of stuff that republicans in congress are working on right now, which helps put into context why donald trump went back to capitol hill today. it was not for any legitimate legislative concern. it was for what republican congressman matt gaetz called a pep rally for president trump. a pep rally complete with an early birthday party for donald trump himself. >> 11 something to do with this room. >> joining me now is the senior editor at slate two covers the courts and philip, columnist for the washington post. the birthday cake, pardon the culinary metaphor, but it really is the icing on the cake of fealty if that is the metaphor. are you surprised that the pledges of allegiance as they are are so explicit, so undisguised on capitol hill? >> i am not surprised. this is something we have seen for years. watching that package, the thing that struck me as republicans are a little bit like parents on an airplane with a crying child. they have this source of frustration and everyone is sick of it. they are stuck and have got to figure out how to calm this kid down. the kid is donald trump and he is mad about being convicted. don't worry, i will talk to the supreme court. they are doing everything to keep him happy, keep him quiet, keep him on their side and most importantly keep him from lashing out against them. that is what we see with this. they are all trying to keep him happy, keep him quiet and get through this. >> they are terrified of him and they adore him. he is the center of their universe and they can't control him at all. i do wonder as you see the machinations of the conference and republicans in the senate openly trying to undermine the rule of law, does it not throughout the notion of the justice system in america as we watch the legislative branch to this work? >> i think that is a feature, not a bug. i think we are seeing a systematic attack on the rule of law. i think even if we had not had the conviction in the new york trial, we have seen a long- standing set of attacks on judges, on juries, on, you know, prosecutors. on witnesses. i think the whole zeitgeist is, and it is not a surprise. this is a classic authoritarian play. just to foment doubt in institutions. if you foment enough doubt people start looking longingly at the strongman who will save them when institutions crumble. so no part of this is new or unfamiliar. i think what is interesting is seeing a lot of republicans who might have, at one point felt about donald trump, but stood fast on the principle that judges and juries and statutes and the concentration actually enforce some meaning. the degree to which they abandoned that and see no value in that i think is the part that is new and chilling. >> to that point, the idea that they will withhold these nominations across the government, right? the tuberville blockade wasn't great politics and yet they survived it and they are replicating it. on a different level it is not the u.s. military and certainly the w.h.o. and u.n. are not favorites of the republican party, but nevertheless they are stymieing the work and they think it is good politics? >> they do think it is good politics from the standpoint that the political focus at this point is retribution against joe biden and that is what they are focused on. mitch mcconnell doesn't wake up in the morning and say that is what he wants to do, but he understands. it is also mitch mcconnell in 2016, holding a supreme court seat. we have also seen this pattern in the past and it is very anti- institutional, but fundamentally about sending a message to the american public that d.c. does not do what it is supposed to do and we need to get trump in there. >> to make us do our work again. >> right. that is the singular focus from now to election day. >> i do think, you know, republicans are betting that the electorate won't punish them for this and that the broader american electorate is not tuned into this. this is part of the swamp, part of the dysfunction of the capital and you make an important point in one of your pieces this week about normalcy bias. americans have a normalcy bias. it leads them to believe everyone who tells them that everything is awesome. even as that system is hanging together by way of dental floss. we are talking about a system of justice, but i think it has extended to the dysfunctional government. because it still exists, because there is still a congress that occasionally passes laws, people can deride functionality, but they don't think democracy is in danger of falling apart in the same way they hold trumps criminal conviction as an example. a jury of peers found him guilty. it all works. things are not normal right now. things are very abnormal and i wonder if you can talk a little bit more about your level of panic in this moment. >> i try not to use the word panic because it makes my parents super scared, but i guess i would say think about where we were in 2016. what was deemed disqualifying in that race and think about the fact that in the intervening time we have civil jury's finding trump guilty of being a sexual abuser. we have 34 felony convictions. we have january 6. we have donald trump, who ran in 2016. we forget in the fog of memory, but as a family man, as a businessman who was going to drain the swamp. now just running as a straight up autocrat. he is running under the banner of violence, of suppression of rights, of suppression of speech. of deporting immigrants. this is really scary, what has happened, and it seems people are almost less dialed up now than they were in 2016 when they were like that access hollywood tape sounds bad. now every single day you get this drumbeat of what i think is really distressing. you know, saying kind of the quiet part loud about wanting to create an authoritarian state and i think we normalized it because we have to get to cvs to fill our prescriptions and we are raising our kids and we are tired. i think this allows us to wait until some adult says break the glass. i think what we have metabolized is normal is deeply frightening. >> you write about the way in which republicans were very incensed about the trump conviction. democrats were not about hunter biden's conviction and as a result republicans are up in arms and democrats are largely accepting of the hunter biden conviction. i find a number that is particularly staggering around all of this, is the number of people who acknowledge that the donald trump conviction is the right call. it is not moving them at all in their support for trump. this is new monmouth pulling out today. do you agree or disagree with the verdict finding trump guilty? 47% agree. 34% disagree. then you look at the numbers of people who are definitely or probably supporting each candidate. biden, 43. trump, 44. numbers are not moving even in the face of saying this conviction was the right thing. what does this tell you? >> it tells me two things. first we should expect this from the standpoint that even before the verdict a fifth of trump supporters said they thought he already committed a crime. we will vote for him anyway. the second thing is that donald trump did an effective job of inoculating his base against this. it is not just last year. it is in 2016. as soon as the russian investigation came to public consciousness he started saying it is a hoax and that pattern is continuing. it really helped his base. once they bought in on that -- that was it. this indictment, they look at it and they are like, that is exactly what he said. at some point rational people step back and are like it is hard to believe that they came up with all of these different crimes. >> they've been busy. >> they are like they are allowed to get him. >> calling it an inoculation is right. ironic. because we had breaking news in the vein of the abnormal tonight, i want to get your thoughts. clarence thomas, who is a key part of the system of justice and rule of law, found to have three additional undisclosed trips that he took from his billionaire a friend harlan crow. these were trips he did not disclose. this is on top of the hundreds of thousands if not millions of gifts he has taken thus far and only lately come clean about. what does this tell you about the danger we are in in terms of the high court and the lesson it sends to lower courts? >> i think i would put this under the bucket that philip has been talking about. law is for suckers. you may have disclosure statutes. you may have ethics rules. you may have all sorts of obligations. this is not a surprise. and then coming out in drips. last week we had a partial disclosure of some of the trips that were paid for. but not all of them and here are three more trips that were never disclosed. so i think this is kind of part of the larger trump theory which is that we have leaders who do not have to answer to the rule of law and when the little guy fails to get his death penalty paperwork right, he goes to the death chamber. when clarence thomas again and again, time after time after time, does not file disclosures or amends disclosures partially, that's okay because the law is for the little guy. i find it part of this sort of very systemic devaluation of the rules that everyone is supposed to abide by and it is a very systemic effort i think to normalize the notion that some people are too cool and important to follow the rules. >> everyone is supposed to abide by the law. thank you both for your time and thoughts tonight. really appreciate it. we have much more ahead tonight. do you have any summer travel plans? 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how did you see it? >> well, it was huge relief because if the supreme court had upheld the ruling from the fifth circuit, then availability of medication abortion by telemedicine, receiving it by mail, things that made it much easier for people to get access to medication abortion if they do not live near a clinic, if they do not take time off, could have been taken away. so relief, but frankly also anger because we should not have been here to begin with. you can tell that nine of these justices agreed with each other. this case had no merit in the law and no merit in fact. so while i am breathing a sigh of relief today, i am really concerned. we know and you just showed us, you just heard, the campaign against medication abortion by those who are opposed to abortion is far from over. >> yeah and it seems very clear that the adf, the legal organization that offended these doctors, is out there, ready for the next wave of this which involves the states. the attorney general of kansas said today that states have the standings that the doctors in this case did not. how concerned are you about that legal theory? >> well i am concerned about it because obviously we have lower court justice who even agreed to this case that the supreme court said had no merit and threw it out. but it does not have merit. you can't go into court because you disagree with the ruling based on science by the fda. let's be clear. why are they going after medication abortion? because it is the method of choice by almost two thirds of women who have abortion in the united states today, choosing medication abortion. they want to cut that off. they want to cut it off in states where abortion is illegal, in states like illinois and new york and california and beyond. we need to be concerned because trying to keep coming in with the junk science as they did in this case and really baseless claims, they will keep on going. >> they can't ban medication abortion, which obviously is the end goal. there is a non-core strategy which is for states to independently take it upon themselves as louisiana did to say this should be a controlled substance. we are not going to use a here. is that the most pernicious strategy? is that the one you are most concerned about or do you think the whole ballgame of banning it nationally is where they will focus their firepower? >> they are going to do both and let's also remember that abortion is already banned in louisiana. so where we are today is the same status quo which is unacceptable and harmful. 14 states have banned abortion with really severe criminal penalties and for people in those states, you know, that status quo is completely unacceptable. >> in the meantime, nancy, as this is debated in the courts and so forth, there is a reality for people seeking bodily autonomy and healthcare across this country. the new york times has a staggering map of the number of people traveling across state lines to seek abortion care. 171,000 people traveled for abortions last year, which was more than double the amount in 2019. what is the picture you can paint for us about the reality of abortion care and reproductive health care in the united states right now? >> it is completely unacceptable that in 2024, four people in 14 states, that they have to travel out of state to get care they should be able to get in- state. we were in congress yesterday. there was a hearing in the subcommittee of the judiciary on of course travel out of state and one of our clients in texas talked about how because she was denied a medically necessary abortion in texas, what would have taken 15 minutes and turned around her health in 15 minutes, she had to spend three days and thousands of dollars going to the state of colorado. that is the reality for so many women and not everybody can leave their state. they don't have the means or the child care or the time off from work. it is really a healthcare crisis happening in the country right now. >> a completely self afflicted crisis. nancy northup from the center of reproductive rights, it is great to have your perspective. thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. survivors of the sandy hook massacre reached a major milestone this weekend tomorrow could bring another measure of justice. first, donald trump's new election strategy to compete against joe biden and the rustbelt. insult the wisconsin city hosting the republican national convention. we have more on that, coming up next. we're trying to save the planet with nuggets. because we need the planet. and we also need nuggets. impossible. we're solving the meat problem with more meat. slowing my cancer from growing and living longer are two things i want from my metastatic breast cancer treatment. and with kisqali, i can have both. kisqali is a pill that when taken with an aromatase inhibitor helps delay cancer from growing and has been proven to help people live significantly longer across three separate clinical trials. so, i have the confidence to live my life. kisqali can cause lung problems or an abnormal heartbeat, which can lead to death. it can cause serious skin reactions, liver problems, and low white blood cell counts that may result in severe infections. avoid grapefruit during treatment. tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening symptoms, including breathing problems, cough, chest pain, a change in your heartbeat, dizziness, yellowing of the skin or eyes, dark urine, tiredness, loss of appetite, abdomen pain, bleeding, bruising, fever, chills, or other symptoms of an infection, a severe or worsening rash, are or plan to become pregnant, or breastfeeding. long live life and long live you. ask your doctor about kisqali today. they say we should stop eating so much meat. and long live you. so we made meat out of plants. because we aren't quitters. impossible. we're solving the meat problem with more meat. are your gutters clogged? 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>> it is not the end-all, be- all, but it is critical to maintain the presidency. when you look at wisconsin, i appreciate donald trump trying to dig a hole and keep digging, but you and i know what he is trying to do which is to set up a rural and urban divide. that is a state that he won in 2016. flashforward and biden wins with 20,000 votes. what happened in those four years? 300,000 more people voted in the state of wisconsin and that help to deliver a margin for biden. for those playing along at home, what are you expecting in 2024 and if it is closer to 2020, biden is in a great place. closer to 2016 and trump is in a better place. it is generating enthusiasm for the states to win. >> what you think about his actions and priorities in terms of what he talks about tailored to those states? what effect do you think that will have on the man in the coming months? will we see a focus on certain issues over others? >> geography matters. if you think of michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, what defines them? these are states that you know well that are factory towns that of lost jobs. due to manufacturing that has moved away from the united states. these are towns that are proud and built trades and apprenticeships. cars and parts supplies and they made crayons and all kinds of things. all kinds of stuff that we like and we saw those jobs move abroad. here comes joe biden saying i've got a different plan. i've got a plot that says we will make it in america. we will invest in industrial policymaking to bring jobs back. the priority is not just getting it cheap, to get equality and good and made in the united states. in 2016 and 2000 17 -- 2017, everything is going terribly. here is joe biden doing it and now the politics as to translate in the states where we make that choice. you can see the way donald trump is campaigning. he does not have the same ability to go to these towns and argue that somehow he will do something to rebuild these areas when joe biden has come along to start to do it. the goal is to educate people about the fact that this choice has been made and do we stay on the track that joe biden is offering? >> do you feel there is tension within some of the states and i will pick pennsylvania because you have a more urban and suburban electorate clustered on philadelphia that he has to keep on his ledger and perhaps even expand his support and he also has allegheny county and the rustbelt part of the state which is much more of the scranton joe persona. is that a delicate balance? those are very different voters, different levels of income, different levels of information and education. how do you see his ability to strike a balance between the two? >> i tend to believe, alex, that i think joe biden does it well. the persuasion audience, the people who have not yet made up their mind about either candidate, the ones who are concerned about joe biden here and maybe donald trump there, those are working-class people who are often defined by not having a college degree, holding down a job, making under $100,000 a year. that to me is where you have to be laser focused and to my mind the argument they have not heard and need to hear over the next few months as you have a billionaire and ceo class. we are speaking on a day when donald trump went to the business roundtable to tell them you will get tax cuts for the rich. i will come back and you will be so happy. they have to know that that is the choice. as you mentioned, scranton joe, who has been taking on a billionaire class. trying to un-rigged the economy. fighting junk fees. going after uncompetitive mergers. things that speak to your pocketbook and trying to make your life better. here is a guy promising every day that i've got the ceos backs. i will deliver tax cuts. that i think will be decisive and if you hone in on that working-class audience i do think they are the most important of all of the audiences we need to persuade. >> you are being generous and suggesting donald trump had a strategy by insulting the city of milwaukee, calling it horrible reportedly. mike johnson i think was on another cable news network saying he did not hear trump say that. i think other republicans don't think that is a great strategy, if it is a strategy. you know, is -- >> alex, i will say i blame myself for this. i listen to every donald trump speech and and everyone he tells you about the decline of american cities. he will go to san francisco, new york and wherever he is. he will pick a place nearby. everything is terrible. it is no slip of the tongue. this is intentional and by design. he is realizing the politics might not play exactly as i wanted it to because i will be going there shortly to court those votes. but this is what he believes. this is the american carnage theory. he believes in decline and everything is terrible. >> well, maybe he forgot that actually the rnc was in milwaukee, which is entirely possible. in the strange brain of donald trump. thank you as always for your wisdom and enthusiasm. it is great to see you. >> thank you, alex. coming up, today was the deadline for donald trump to file motions in his hush money trial ahead of sentencing next month. what did we hear from the former president and his legal team? 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[ bird squawks loudly ] to a pet shop. meg's moving company uses t-mobile. so she scaled down her fleet to save money. and don's paying so much for at&t, he's been waiting to update his equipment! there's a smarter way to save. comcast business mobile. you could save up to 70% on your wireless bill. so you don't have to compromise. powering smarter savings. powering possibilities. everybody say there's no crime. and there's no evidence whatsoever connecting trump with any criminal wrongdoing. there is an insufficient amount of evidence, no crime has been shown. bragg evidence is inadequate. there's no evidence. there is no evidence and there's no crime. there's no crime. >> throughout donald trump's criminal time in new york, the former president citing legal experts arguing there was no evidence to convict him. a jury that found him guilty of 34 felonies disagreed but under new york state law, trump has one more chance to prove there was no real evidence of a crime by arguing that the judge should set aside the jury's and today is the deadline for to file that motion. joining me now is kristi greenberg former prosecutor. by my clock which is fairly accurate, it's 9:55, there are two hours left for them to file this. >> this is their chance to you know, basically this is a last chance that they have to make their legal arguments before they proceed to an appeal so they will be filing a full some motion. >> what is that, like everything and the kitchen sink? >> we are going to see a lot of the same recycled arguments that we saw before, just that you heard, that there's no crime here, you can't use state laws to deal with federal election crimes, you can't, the judge is biased, the prosecutors are vindictive and said you're going to take a lot of those arguments and you're going to cite the trial record but the problem is the trial record doesn't support the argument. they will point to a number of places where the judge ruled against them or reprimanded them, but there are also plenty of examples where the judge ruled in their favor and actually kept out evidence like playing the access hollywood tape, like hearing about sexual allegations against trump, you know, after that access hollywood tape, none of that came into the trial and so, there are any number of evidentiary rulings, things that went in his favor so this judge was fair, i think their attempt to use the trial record to regurgitate a number of these arguments is really not going to work. >> so is there a downside to doing this, you know, do you further erode confidence in your argument, >> if anything you are adding to the record, right, this is a judge who has already told trump's lead counsel that he has lost all credibility with the court and that was before the trial even started. >> there was, we got new information today on the gag order, on monday i believe trump legal team introduced a new motion for the judge to lift his gag order. the reasoning in part being that trump would like to be able to speak freely presumably about the judges, witnesses and prosecution during the debate. you think judge merchan moves at all on this? >> i do, and he is moving quickly and more quickly it seems from the papers that trump filed, which tells me he actually is looking seriously at this. so i think, there are three categories as you mentioned, and there's one category where i think the judge is going to take a close look at it and that is the statement that trump can make about witnesses. now we have seen the appearances from stormy daniels, and michael cohen, where they are talking about the case, talking about the election, talking about trump going to jail post verdict. so i think there is some merit to trump's argument that he should get to respond to those kind of attacks and i think the prosecutor, they seem to just that they would make some amendments to allow for that. that's the one category where i can see some shift but trump's motion says really nothing about why he should get to now attack the jurors, after the verdict or why he should now get to attack the judge's daughter, so if anything, what we've seen from nbc news reporting, brian riley talking about the threats on jurors, people trying to identify who they are, trying to threatened with violence and now we are leaning toward sentencing, if any of that is revealed and he keeps ramping up these attacks, i mean, that is only going to intensify, so the need to protect these jurors and protect the court staff and the court staff and their families has not gone away. this case is still pending. >> from the state of the presidential debate that a lot of people are tuning into, that is not keep anybody any safer. i appreciate it. that's our show for tonight, and a reminder, you can listen to every single episode of alex wagner tonight as a podcast for free, scan the qr code on your screen or search for alex wagner tonight wherever you got your pad cat -- podcast. nancy pelosi is going to be our guest tonight. i'
and ultimately humans and what's really best for society... >> you headed isabel. it's a threat to their power structure. family faith first. the government is not so important suddenly and neither is politics. as a you getting married it? you are about to get married yourself? >> i am on june 29th, right around the corner. >> i think there's a revival toward the things that matter most the things that have enduring importance in our lives. congratulations on that, best wishes. we are going to do a lot longer segment later on. that's it for us tonight. make sure to follow me on social media, thank you for watching. remember it's america now and forever. jesse watters is going to take it from here. >> jesse: welcome to jesse watters primetime p. are tonight. >> we have great unity, we have great common sense, we have one thing in mind that's making our country great. >> reporter: trump back in washington. biden in italy getting lost. >> i think she should step down. >> it should the democratic party remove her if she doesn't? >> i think so. >> jesse: wearing thin. >> the first runner-up is... >> jesse: a man wins ms. miss maryland. plus. >> are you a manly man? >> no. >> jesse: a swing and amaze pure goes of the words about her never wants to hear but at last night's congressional baseball game it's all democrats heard. >> and a swing and a miss. and a swing and a miss. and a swing and a miss that will end the inning. >> jesse: republicans roughed up democrats 31-11 the. at the baseball score. maybe a little preview of what's coming in november. if you think about it, baseball is kind of like politics. if you keep striking out you put the other team back at bad. all season democrats have been striking out with hoax after hoax, the dictator on day one, bloodbath and revenge. >> strike three... >> jesse: democrats just put the other team back at bat in their own home stadium, washington dc. donald trump back on capitol hill for the first time in almost four years. the former president spent the day meeting with house republicans, senators and businessmen. >> this was a great meeting. there is tremendous unity in the republican party. we want to see borders, we want to see strong military. we want to see money not wasted all over the world. we have great commonsense, a lot of very smart people in this room. a lot of people that love our country. they love it just beyond all else and the only thing that ab supersedes it is their family and maybe their faith in certain instances and that's very nice but they want this country to be great again and we are going to make a great again. >> jesse: donald trump is running around dc trying to unite the party in the country because teamwork makes the dream work. and we'd never seen the republican party disunited under trump. even gave them a birthday cake. >> [ inaudible ] [ applause ] >> jesse: there was so much love and unity in the room it broke adam shifts brain. >> guilty, guilty, guilty,... >> jesse: has battle cry was heard by the media and they went to work doing what they do best. >> apparently the former president made for -- made reference to hannibal lecter saying he even had a friend over for dinner. we've seen him praising hannibal lecter. apparently did it again this morning, not sure we fully understand the context of that. >> jesse: we weren't inside the room but neither was cnn and that's the point. we did what journalists do, we went towards sources who were actually there. did trump really call a flesh eating serial killer a nice guy? no. trump was joking that if he said something about hannibal lecter, the fake news media would say he was praising him. cnn took the bait. and that wasn't the only hoax. i'm getting word from my producers we have a new hoax alert. >> he said as it's gotten a lot of publicity and we broke this that he doesn't like the walkie, it's a horrible city he says. the campaign is pushed back on that. everybody comes out and didn't say it. of course he said it. that is according to almost everybody in the room. >> jesse: everybody in the room says he didn't say it. as soon as the news broke people inside the room debunked it. a congressman says i was in the meeting, president trump never disparaged milwaukee. another one, i was in the room appear president trump did not say this. another, trump was specifically referring to the crime rate in milwaukee. here's what trump had to say. >> democrats are also hating you on this comment that you made about milwaukee, the host city for the rnc for the convention and they seem to believe that you said that it was a horrible city. can you nip this in the bud and clarify what you meant. >> i think it was very clear what i meant. i said we are very concerned with crime. i love milwaukee, i have great friends in milwaukee. the crime numbers are terrible and we have to be very careful. >> jesse: how is the media directly quoting him if they are not in the room with him. and then telling the people inside of the room that they are wrong. it's what nancy pelosi calls the wrapup smear. you smear your opponent with lies, the press writes about it, that validates it and then the politicians run with it. as soon as the media reported the hoax, the mayor of milwaukee rushed to the camera. >> donald trump wants to talk about things that he thing so horrible, all of us lived through his presidency so right back at you buddy. >> joe biden saying i happen to love milwaukee. he didn't write that himself. kamala harris saying milwaukee is a beautiful city and for the record, milwaukee was the third most violent city in the nation, third most. so when primetime goes to the convention, johnny is going to have two bodyguards. democrats are down late in the game, you can't yank them because you have no bullpen. so you just have to keep throwing trash. here's more. the media wants to to thank trump spent every waking second plotting revenge. >> i'm told there's a similar dynamic behind closed doors with advisors or other republicans where he will talk about revenge , sometimes get a look of d. really mean that and he makes it clear he does. this is his retribution, that's the word that's been at the centre of this campaign for a year now. >> they're not going to be... it's going to be true believers and loyalists. if trump says he wants revenge or i want to target a particular person or institution they are going to do that. >> jesse: who are these advisors that are leaking this to msnbc? they don't exist. it's made up. trump's people don't talk to this guy. look at him. he's on morning joe. they say trump went to washington to harness the power of congress to go to war against the democrats. really? people inside of the room told us revenge never came up. it was the economy, foreign policy and election strategy. it was forward-looking. a feeling that washington hasn't felt in four years. that's not revenge, that's success and like trump says, success is his revenge. she was in the room with trump today she joins me now. so he did not praise hannibal lecter? >> much to cnn's despair he did not. he joked about the fact that they were going to report fake news and many of us were there. they don't want to talk about the fact that he has a plan in dealing with our foreign policy debacles that this diminished ration has caused. we are excited about the numbers we are hearing. >> jesse: what were the policies that he was discussing today behind closed doors with you guys? >> the number 1 issue that he has is concern for what's happening with russia. there's the media really silencing what's happening with russia. warships off the coast of cuba and also florida. i think more importantly he made sure that the american people would know that what is currently happening in ukraine and israel would've never happened under him and he does have a plan and solution moving forward and i also want to point out that he understands that world leaders respect him and right now what's coming out of the white house, a lot of people realize that joe biden is likely not going to be the nominee which is from what we are hearing on capitol hill, representative kylie had reported that kamala harris eyeing a run for california governor because of it. >> jesse: so you are hearing also in dc that joe biden isn't going to be the democrat nominee? >> correct. it appears that our colleagues are trying to put guardrails on a 2024 presidential election with president trump and also what you are seeing is according to our pulling, you know as well as i do that they have been trying to paint republicans as anti- woman and trying to push an abortion crisis right now with the election and i don't think that's a case. a lot of the american people know that this is a state rights decision so i think that they know that they are losing. >> jesse: the straight truth from inside the room, didn't need any spin from cnn. thank you so much. we always appreciate you coming on the show. north dakota governor and potential vp candidate joins me now. so you are going to be in milwaukee, it has a crime problem. third worst violent crime last year of any city in the united states. are you used to this so far, they just make things up and then merchandise it? >> i wish that every american could see what i've seen the last six months because the opportunity to be with president trump, be in the room, see what's reported whether it's at the trial or at a rally, whether it's at a fundraiser, the thing that i see reported versus... are two different planets just like you described tonight. >> jesse: when you guys are behind-the-scenes talking policy , personnel, what you mostly focused on? >> i want to say when president trump... guided over a dozen events between roundtables, rallies and fundraiser things, sometimes 500 people, sometimes a thousand. whether he's in the line getting the photo or at a roundtable with the owners that are job creators, the number 1 thing people don't report is he's curious. he's asking them how are biden's regulations hurting you. what'd the things you need to help moving forward. are they being affected -- affected by inflation? he understands. he was in the hospitality business. he cares about what people are experiencing and then that feeds into his thinking. i looked at that schedule that he had, and joe biden couldn't have done one of those events and he did 14 nonstop 12 hours a day moving between locations. incredible the energy and the stamina. he's got real interest in people. >> jesse: how unified is the republican party right now? >> never been more unified. >> jesse: is out of feeling or can you see numbers to that? >> everybody is coming together. you are seeing it in the primaries that are happening around the nation right now. everybody is unified and they are unified for two reasons. one is because they know that president trump represents strength whether that's on the world stage or on the economy or the border or it's fighting inflation, he represents that strength. they are also unified because what's the alternative? the alternative is joe biden's weakness which has started wars, it's inviting wars. it's inviting russia to come to cuba. president trump is actually a deterrent. we talked about our defence budget. but that kind the white house and we don't have to raise our defence budget a dime and also we've got a better deterrent because they know that we've got strength that we would be willing to use. al raed -- our economy, diplomacy. >> jesse: i was looking at the new york times over the weekend, big hit piece. your name keeps coming up as vp. big hit piece, how are you feeling about all of this? >> a lot of that is a distraction. of the key is the ability to focus on... the key is making sure that we elect president trump because there's never been a politician, a leader like him in history. no one has raised the kind of money that he's been able to raise. no one generates the crowds he's been able to generate and no one has the enthusiasm. you go to a fundraiser and they say there's going to be san francisco or all of these rides -- riots and protesters and nobody shows up to protest against them but i thousand people are waving their flags and cheering for him. you get down to newport and it's people lined up with boats on the water. i take it back to one thing, the people that show up and are waving the flags along the sidewalks. they are all working, they all have jobs and they all know they were better off under president trump and they are under joe biden and that's where it is. it's working class people that care about america. that's his voting block. >> jesse: basic economics. thank you very much. johnny hit the streets. >> it's a tough one right? >> that's a tough one. 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and why he -- is the always moving in such slow-motion. world leaders have to hurt him like a stray sheep. reportedly the main focus in italy has been making sure biden gets his sleep. >> president biden got a much earlier start than he usually does today. aids typically keep him as close to an east coast schedule even on a trip like this as they possibly can one it's possible but today when you look at the tape he was rolling out of the hotel about 5:11 am eastern. >> jesse: you can see the cpap creases on his face when he leaves the white house at noon. now joe is trying to turn sleepy joe into an asset. >> what he's doing at three in the morning i don't know. >> jesse: today biden signed a ten-year defence agreement with ukraine and confirmed that we expect to see ukraine joined nato in the future. what? do we get a say in that? oh and we've loosened the rules of engagement allowing american weapons to be fired from ukraine into russia proper. ukraine will be getting f-16s this summer. and those of you in miami may have noticed but the russian navy just held a poor call in cuba 90 miles up the american coast. china's building deep water ports in south america, hello munro doctor npr china selling dual use tech to russia's war machine. china just landed on the moon and saudi arabia just ended its 80 year deal with the united states to sell oil solely in dollars. i think that's enough to worry about. does the man wandering alone into an italian field look like he has everything under control? it's not a shark but it's pretty scary. former sec reof state -- secretary of state mike pompeo joins me know. you are seeing the president wander around alone away from everybody as people are falling out of the sky. does not give you confidence that he has this world under control? >> it's good to be with you and thank goodness for prime minister who grabbed him and kept him from walking off completely. it certainly doesn't give any american confidence and the contrast between seeing president biden unable to perform basic functions to keep america safe and we know the policies have failed. i think the american people, it was a bad day for america and one sense. we saw our president failed to be able to lead on the world stage but it was a good day and we got to say there's a sharp contrast as we all consider what's going to happen in november. >> jesse: we want to win proxy wars. we also want to make peace everywhere donald trump's big message today on foreign policy behind the scenes at sec. was we of these messes in europe, in asia, in the middle east if he were president. >> it's remarkable to watch the biden administration say we've done such a good job, everybody's working hand-in-hand. you've gotten tens of thousands of ukrainians killed. you failed to deter. 1200 israelis dead on your watch. still a war going on in gaza. the failure of the policy isn't that you react after the crisis is taking place it's that you are strong enough and then america's leading sufficiently so you can deter the bad guys. the other folks that watch this today were chairman kim in north korea,... they all watched what happened today in italy and said we think we are right, this may well be the time that we continue to probe and test america because when president biden said he doesn't know what donald trump is doing at three m, i hope we never get that three m call with president biden as commander-in-chief. >> jesse: he wants to pat himself on the back for reacting but we shouldn't have been in this position in the first place. today fanny willis took us to church. >> i'm so tired of hearing these idiots call my name as fanny in a way to attempt to humiliate me because like silly schoolboys, the name reminds them of a woman's rear. they get mad when i call out their lunacy. you can't pistol on me and tell me it's raining. >> jesse: we are not trying to humiliate her, we thought her name was... and i we don't feel like going back. nathan wade went on cnn and was asked when did you start sleeping with her. >> these exact dates are at issue and these dates are -- i'm getting signalled here. >> jesse: they apparently hadn't prepared him to answer the one question at the centre of the entire case. sohi exit out mid-interview to prep him? it's not like she asked him did you guys ever go to the cabin. >> did you go to a cabin with ms. miss willis ever? >> ever? >> ever. >> no. >> jesse: happy dei thursday. >> why did you stop the ballots? there is video viewed stopping the ballots. do you have anything to say? wanda? what do you want to say to the people of bridgeport? >> jesse: that was johnny confronting wander the stuff her after she was shoving a legal ballots in a dropbox peer she was arrested along with three other democrats. she was charged with ballot fraud and witness intimidation tied to the 2019 election. tonight we got our hands on the arrest warrant. >> we learned investigators examined absentee ballots, surveillance video from bridgeport senior housing and use witnessed interviews as evidenced to make the arrest. a voter who did not request an absentee ballot told investigators wanda came to my house and told me only to sign the bottom of the blank application. she went on to say i have done with the -- done this with wanda over the past ten years. wanda said no. >> jesse: it was a got punched a democrats peer she's been there ballot wizard for over a decade. wanda has a government job, runs the city's democratic party and is the gatekeeper at the mayor's office. now she's busted and democrats need to answer some questions. reporters have been chasing down connecticut's democratic governor since the arrest. he endorsed the men wanda allegedly stopped for. the governor thinks the mayor had nothing to do with it of course but says wanda should take the fall. >> i think she should step down. if she won't step down, should the democratic report -- democratic party remove her? >> i should thank so. >> are you going to ask them to do that. >> i hope they do the right thing. >> jesse: hours after wanda was arrested, he signed a bill that puts a camera on every dropbox in the state. primetime called for this months ago. it took four arrests to make it happen. it's not enough to end corruption and secure elections but it's a step in the right direction. next let's get rid of the drop boxes altogether. they are ripe for fraud. will have more on wanda soon. we have new details on biden's bad dog. the president watched as commander attacked secret service agents. kevin corke is in dc with the story. >> an exclusive window into the harrowing circumstances surrounding commander, the president's dog and his numerous attacks on secret service agents which could top three dozen such attacks according to new really -- newly released records. apparently the president himself was present for at least three of those attacks. now everybody knows commander has been known to bite but there are a lot of examples you may not know about including this one. as i started to walk toward him, him being the president, to see if you needed help, commander ran through his legs and bit my left arm through the front of my jacket. i pulled my arm away and yelled no, potus yelled and then blank. the story went on to say that the dog later jumped up and bit him in the left arm again for a second time. his suit coat had not one, not to but three holes. and that's not it, there are other conversations between secret service officials including this one from september 2023. tmz just reported a dog bite at the white house -- dog bite at the white house. can we find a way to get this dog muzzled. you will recall former first dog major was also rehoused back in 2021 after apparently attacking a lot of people. secret service members wish each other safe shift as the attacks mounted. that's really damning right there. that tells you plenty. >> i've been written by a vicious democrat dog and it hurts. still have a mark on my upper thigh. thank you so much. >> jesse: so what is a man? >> why does society want men to act like women. >> now they are djs and promoters . >> jesse: happy dei thursday. we're bringing you the best stories about diversity, equity and inclusion. first stop the beauty pageant crowned their winter over the weekend. sorry ladies, the crown went to an asian man. >> the first runner-up is... >> trace: >> jesse: they were born cambodian baby boy before getting a sex change. they say we see bailey's win as a win for everyone who dreamed the impossible dream. impossible. we told you about how biden spent nearly a billion dollars and only built seven ev charging stations. now we are finding out why. white house insiders are blaming dei. the regulations for government contractors are huge roadblocks. construction can't start until the builders prove they are inclusive. they have to host block parties and minority communities with interpreters in case nobody speaks english. and they have to hire minority subcontractors to do all the work. good luck finding a black electrician in maine. mountain view high school was pumped to hear their gay senior gift will be a massive mural of thor representing their thunder mascot. the school's equity office cancelled it because thor is racist. according to one student, the equity office said thor was... and is a white supremacist and the image should be more inclusive. no dei thursday is complete without a primetime victory. transits will merit leah thomas will not be participating in the summer olympics. thomas lost a legal battle that he hoped would overturn a policy that bans athletes who have been through male puberty from competing in the female category. you can try again in four years. let's bring an author of the sad truth about happiness... when you hear how preposterous some of these dei items are, what goes through your mind? >> of course i live within the ecosystem of academia so none of this surprises me up and warn against this for two decades picked just make you feel better down there in the united states we are even crazier in canada. let me give you a few examples to add to your d. -- dei thursday lineup. at my university, or five-year strategic plan posits that we must now all indigenous eyes and decolonize our curriculum. it doesn't matter what you are teaching, you to be teaching pure mathematics or neuroscience or shakespeare, you need to decolonize and indigent eyes that. second example, on may 17th you'll be happy to hear that we held a symposium on menstrual equity because it turns out that menstruation is a human rights. i didn't know that women were forbidden to men straight in canada but apparently we need to have a symposium. third quick example, university of waterloo is searching for a professor in artificial intelligence, they have to be either gender fluidity, nonbinary or whatever -- or to spirit. you haven't reached the level of lunacy that we have in canada. >> i'm enjoying the canadian dei edition on dei thursday very much. menstruation is a human right that i don't need because i can be a little bit of a complainer. when you process some of these things, what do you think the end goal is besides screwing around with everybody else. what you think is really motivating it? >> postmodernism, i call it the granddaddy of all parasitic ideas because it purports that there are no objective truths. it's a form of intellectual terrorism. operas down, slavery as freedom, men or women. it's a way to liberate ourselves from the pesky shackles of reality. it's grotesque, it needs to end and we need to return to a commitment to reason, logic and science. >> jesse: it's like modern arts. i don't understand it, it changes all the roles, makes no sense but people thank it's amazing. happy dei thursday to our canadian friends. a new study says men won't call out sick from work because it's not manly. so what does it mean to be a man? johnny went out and found out. >> define a man. >> that's not simple. >> it's a tough one right? >> it's a tough one. >> this is hard to. >> someone who is strong. >> if that demand, what the manly man? >> someone who looks good doing it. >> the firefighter who is at the door in the middle of the night. >> he drives a harley for no reason. >> a manly man takes orders from his wife? >> are you a manly man? >> no. >> what is a man have to do to be considered a real man? >> have a job at. >> love a man that works out. >> he's not sitting out here. >> not giving up [ bleep ] what other people think. >> why does today's society want men to act like women. >> they used to go to war now they are djs. >> masculine characteristics have been demonized. >> he was complaining to some woman about something that women do. >> every time i think about trump i get allergic. >> and want to put men and women sports and the women lose. that's not funny. should men cry? >> i don't want to see men crying. >> i cry a lot. >> i love crying, i think it's so fun. >> he came to my office, tears in his eyes. >> mentor saying they are afraid to take a sick day because they don't want to appear weak. >> they should suck it up at. >> what if you did have covid and you got the whole office sick. >> so you are a big believer in ... >> should men be drinking out of straws? >> yes. >> do you think that's very manly? 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that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight, hunter biden guilty in his federal gun case. what's next for the president's only living son as he awaits sentence thing and what it could mean for the race. then my exclusive interview with john bolton. why he thinks we are not taking the former president's threats seriously enough. plus, pride month under attack. why progress is being lost as the 11th hour gets underway on this tuesday night. good evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle and we are now 147 days away from the election and today the president son, hunter biden, was convicted on all counts in his federal gun trial. the jury deliberated the three counts for just three hours. president biden says he accepts the outcome of the case and will always be there for his son. here is my colleague ryan nobles with more. >> reporter: tonight president biden arriving in delaware, hugging his son on the tarmac after hunter biden became the first child of a sitting president found guilty in a criminal trial. >> no one in this country is above the law. >> reporter: it took three hours of deliberations for 12 jurors to unanimously determine hunter biden guilty of three felony counts. for lying about his drug use on a federal background check to buy a gun. special counsel david weiss, who oversaw the prosecution, saying this is not a case about hunter's struggles with crack, but his decision to break the law. >>'s choice to lie on a government form when he bought a gun and then to possess that gun. it was these choices and the combination of guns and drugs that made his conduct dangerous. >> reporter: inside the courtroom, the president's 54- year-old son did not react as the verdict was read. he left the courthouse holding the hand of the first lady, later releasing a statement saying i am more grateful today for the love and support i experienced this last week from melissa, my family, my friends, and my community then i am disappointed about the outcome. the verdict comes after four days of testimony from people who are or were once close to hunter biden. many testifying about his drug use around the time he filled out the background check saying he was not a drug user. his ex-girlfriend testified she witnessed hunter smoking crack every 20 minutes or so. the prosecution also using clips from hunter's own book. >> i have no plans beyond the moment. >> reporter: the defense argued hunter biden did not knowingly lie on the form. tonight we spoke to juror number 10, who asked that we conceal his identity. separating the politics from the case a >> absolutely. for us it was not politically motivated. politics never played into anything that we said in the jury room. >> reporter: president biden, who said he would not pardon his son, writing, jill and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today. jill and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing will ever change that. >> with that let's get smarter with the help of our leadoff panel this evening. mike memoli is here. he has covered president biden and his family for more than a decade. susan glasser joins us, staff writer for the new yorker and harry litman, former assistant attorney general. mike, you know this president and his family better than any other reporter out there. how are they all reacting to this? >> biden has a lot of family expressions and one i have heard him invoke so often is that family is everything. it is the beginning, it is the middle, and it is the end. in the more than decade of covered president biden i have seen them come together to celebrate their greatest triumphs. the election, the inauguration most recently. i have also seen them have to endure some of the most difficult and tragic moments as a family. this is one that yet again has brought the family together. to really take stock of a very difficult moment. really the past week and a half has been so difficult to have to relive through this trial the most difficult moments of their family, starting with the death of beau biden and what it did to hunter biden, leading to the addiction to drugs. as i have been talking to people close to the family tonight i have been struck by a tone of defiance about what comes next. there has been concern about what this might mean politically, but also personally for president biden. he is 21 weeks away from his last election. 16 days away from a consequential debate against donald trump, but the tone i am hearing from people close to the president is that they are so proud of their public service as a family and nothing is going to stop them from achieving the goal that is set out in front of them. they know they have a difficult task ahead. the politics, the legal situation does not get easier from here but they are determined to face this together as a family. >> harry, you wrote in the l.a. times that the jury decision was right, but the prosecution was wrong. i don't think i know what that means. >> let me try. department of justice guidelines, stephanie, have ways of handling cases and cases like this in which someone lies on a form but does not do any other crime with a gun or part of a gang or whatever are universally dismissed or not treated with the severity that david weiss treated this one. that is how david weiss first proposed to treat this one about a year ago when the gun charges were going to be the subject of a diversion agreement if hunter biden kept clean for two years. it would go away. so the screaming question, not the jury verdict but the question to charge presents and i don't know what the answer is. what happened to change his view of what was the proper punishment and treatment of hunter biden to take it outside how gop practice would normally treat it. because he is a special counsel no one in the doj supervisory structure which normally would say we don't do that to these cases, here is how we handle these cases. no one was there to say that and i think it is certain for whatever reason that hunter was treated more severely than another defendant with the same facts. >> you have written that you don't think a game changer could change voters minds about this election so i assume you think this verdict won't have much of an impact. >> we are getting to the point that you are anticipating me too well. look, if donald trump's conviction and becoming the first convicted felon in american history who was a former president, if that was not a radical change in the election, i don't see the conviction of a private citizen, even one who was the son of a current president to be a game changer in this race. it was that close. there was a minor, incremental shift at best toward biden. it is not entirely clear how this conviction of biden's son will play politically. certainly republicans were immediately questioning this, saying this is really just a distraction and all sorts of instantaneous conspiracy theories. default setting from some of trumps public supporters and defenders. you know, hunter biden is not running for president and that's the bottom line. there is no evidence that years of investigations of him, of dragging his name around, has really affected biden's political standing and i don't anticipate this would, either. >> hunter biden is not running for president. we should remind our audience he has no role in our government, past, present, and no plans for the future. harry, what could he be looking at as far as sentence goes? >> the standard guidelines would dictate a sentence between 15 to 21 months, based on the conduct and lack of criminal history. those are just recommendations and my best guess, consistent with what i was saying about how people who don't do anything else other than lie on the form are treated is that he will receive a fair bit less than that from the judge. remember however that there are still the tax charges he has to face and david weiss made it clear that the investigation is ongoing and he may be targeting some of hunter biden's conduct in 2014 or so in china, in business dealings. for this charge i expect him to get a sentence that is a matter of months, not the 15 to 21 that the guidelines would otherwise dictate. >> even if it is just a few months, hunter biden, unlike most people in his situation has secret service protection. so how does that work? >> your guess is as good as mine, though we have been thinking about it and we know the secret service prepared a plan when it came up with donald trump. trump would have his own wing and people would be there. there would be a lot of cooperation with local authorities. here it is easier because it is federal authorities, bureau of prisons and secret service. that will be worked out one way or another. i think that is sort of the least of the practical issues that this conviction poses today. >> michael, you laid it out for us, how close the biden family has. how to finance the president is when it comes to protecting his family, how he talks about the family. around this time last year i interviewed the president. much to his teams chagrin, anger, fury, i asked about hunter and he said my son is an innocent man, my son is a good man. the president is now headed deeper into this campaign into the debate stage. how is he going to handle the questions he is asked, the narrative around hunter now that we have this guilty verdict and a president who does respect the rule of law and decisions made by a jury? >> just think about the gauntlet that is ahead. i mentioned 16 days from now is the first debate. preparation is critical. the president tomorrow is leaving for an important foreign trip. meeting with other key leaders as well as pope francis. you know how close this president is with that hope. it will be an interesting meeting, but then he comes back and has a little over a week to prepare for that debate. we have never in modern history scenery match between combatants like trump and biden and we know the strategy on the part of the former president is very likely to try to get under president biden skin and use this against him. the biden team looks at 2020 when, yes, hunter biden was a frequent political cudgel that trump tried to use against him and the president's advisers say it did not work then and it actually backfired on donald trump. they are presenting this as do this at your own peril to donald trump, but i think it is a concern to people close to president biden that as important as the debate is and as important as preparation is, will he be able to focus on the task at hand? the answer from those i've spoken to today is that is not going to be an issue. >> susan, i'm sure you remember this question. former president trump and his friends at fox news said it over and over and over. where is hunter? they said it for days, weeks, months. it seemed like years. yet after today's verdict the trump campaign was basically silent, saying it is just a distraction. what in the world is going on here, susan? >> well, first of all i guess now that donald trump himself where's the label of convicted felon and has been at the spearhead of the most kind of concerted assault that we have ever seen, i think, by one political party in this country against the very legitimacy of the legal system. it is not exactly a comparison that is favorable where you have democrats on down today saying listen, we respect the rule of law. biden isn't going to issue a pardon for his own son. as painful as this is we think that the jury system works and things like that. the contrast with trump is obviously one that is very unfavorable and i am struck by how quickly trumps allies immediately reverted to conspiracy theories and make- believe. i can't stress that enough. they are still in burnet down mode when it comes to our legal system and that includes, you know, trying to imply that this case is a distraction from the real secret being covered up, the real case that should be brought against hunter biden. whatever the conspiracy theory is, it is part of a purposeful plan to rip down the authority and the legitimacy of the legal system, because of donald trump. because of one man. >> republicans like to say the current president weaponize is the justice department, but i want to share with democrat jim mcgovern had to say about that very thing. watch this. >> apparently when a republican is convicted it is weaponization, but when a democrat is convicted, the president's son no less, that is justice. give me a break. hunter biden was found guilty by a jury of his peers, just like donald trump. the divide is stunning and it is a great reminder that one political party remains committed to the rule of law and the other doesn't. >> jim mcgovern bringing a rational thought to a political party. crazy to do these days. michael, there are a lot of apolitical people. it seems like what you laid out with the a clear contrast for voters. is it? >> it is interesting because what we didn't hear from the president, from those around him tonight, was criticism of a trump appointed judge that presided over this trial or the prosecution from the trump appointed special counsel. there was none of that in the statement before the trial began and today when the try was over, he reiterated his respect for the rule of law and freedom and democracy have been an important part of the president's campaign. that is an example he is showing not just through those words, but the words we saw in another interview last week. the president has the power after this difficult moment, this difficult verdict, to free his son of any potential jail time. he can issue a pardon as soon as the sentence comes down and he has said he will not do that. if ever there was an opportunity for a president to put their finger on the scale of the justice system and given how close he and his family are, it would seem to be in this moment and he said he is not going to do that. >> thank you all for starting us off on this very serious news evening. when we return this man once worked in the trump administration and a cabinet level position. now one of his biggest critics. john bolton talks the verdicts in both trump and hunter biden's trials. later the biden campaign has an aggressive strategy to brand trump as a felon. how the president's sons verdict could complicate that. the 11th hour, just getting underway on a tuesday night. da. 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>> i don't think enough people are. when you hear trump saying things like people are saying that retribution can be justified, what he really means is i am saying that retribution can be justified. i think he has a long list of adversaries he wants to go after, but i think the justice department under the trump administration will be in continuing chaos as he tells his political appointee is to go after people whether there are grounds to do it or not and what those lawyers do will tell you a lot about their legal integrity. i think it will put the judiciary under real pressure. >> you might be on the perceived enemy list. are you concerned at all for your safety? >> i'm concerned about a lot of people that i think he made clear he wants to go after. he tried to suppress my book. he tried to get a criminal investigation started. both of those have been settled and taken out of the picture because they were utterly without merit, but i don't think those technicalities stand in trumps way. he said for example he wants to prosecute the former chairman of the joint chief of staff's for daring to have a conversation with his chinese counterpart in the run-up to january 6, to assure the chinese that they need not worry. trump says that his treason and he reminded people that the death penalty used to apply. i think he is very serious. he may joke about it a little bit, but this will be a retribution presidency and i think the justice department will be where the rubber meets the road. >> you called the new york verdict a fire bell in the night and you urged your party to nominate somebody else at the convention. do you think that is something that could realistically happen? is there a group behind the scenes potentially working on this? >> i don't think it is realistic, but i think people ought to have a gut check one more time. for most americans voting for a convicted felon, i think, is going to be a real obstacle. you can say all you want that this was the result of political discrimination against trump. he will be able to raise the selective prosecution argument on appeal. when the case was put in front of 12 regular americans, new yorkers like donald trump used to be, they found him guilty. i think the facts the prosecution presented were clear and that is a problem the party will have and could affect senate candidates, house candidates, gubernatorial candidates. i think if he is elected, electing the first convicted felon as president of the united states will cause real damage to the united states and how we are perceived abroad. >> given the guilty verdict today for president biden son, hunter biden, what do you say to those republicans who say joe biden weaponized the department of justice and made it his political tool? >> right and basically shot his son in the process. it is a conspiracy theory. i speak as an alumnus of the department of justice. you could not do in that department what trumps supporters say has been done and not have it leaked to every major media outlet in the country. it is possible to be the victim of selective prosecution and unfairly so and also be guilty. i think certainly that is probably true in trump's case. in hunter biden's case they are not done with him yet. there will be an income tax case and the u.s. attorney, special counsel investigation into hunter continues. so i would like to see what the impact of this case is on the election. it will have an election impact, even though it is not joe biden. it is his son. and see what people think when trump says poor donald trump, the whole world is against him. apparently against hunter biden, too. >> do you think donald trump is a threat to democracy? we keep hearing that phrase. i want to know if you believe it and if so, practically, tangibly what does it look like? >> i don't think it is a threat to democracy or our system. i think it will cause enormous damage and a term of confusion and turmoil. but the idea that donald trump is going to overthrow the united states constitution, overthrow the republic as an existential threat to democracy gives him too much credit. i think it is important to state the threat accurately. not to overstate it, not to understate it, but to understand what the nature of the threat is so people who oppose it can combat it more effectively. overdoing it i think gives trump a break and that's a mistake. >> you said that donald trump doesn't have the brains for dictatorship. even though he said that he would be a dictator on day one. does that make him any less dangerous if he is not that smart but still wants to be a dictator? >> i think it goes to the point that while donald trump has an infinite span of attention when it comes to the greater glory of donald trump, his attention span on most other issues is about he will to a fruit fly. so that his opponents and even some of his supporters who try and move him away from the most dangerous things that he does will have plenty of room to try to step in. i'm not trying to minimize what i see donald trump doing. i think what he was doing at the end of his first term is where it will pick up the day he is inaugurated and it is serious. when you say the republic itself will fall like the roman republic well, really? people think donald trump is equal to julius caesar? give me a break. >> he may not be, but this time around he won't have the safety guards of you, h.r. mcmaster, the list goes on. are you concerned about the people that are in his current orbit and what they are capable of doing and how they can influence him? >> yes, i think any administration in a second term does not attract the quality of people it does in the first for the very practical reason that the runway in the second term is shorter. trump will be a lame duck the minute he is sworn in and he has a lot of people around him. basically the people who stayed in the government after january 6 who were second and third rate at best. i think the bigger danger is that trump will insist on staffing a second term on personal loyalty to him above all. he is coming up with his decision for his vice presidential nominee and i think the two questions are, number one, do you think the 2020 election was stolen? and number two, if i told you in a similar situation to do what i told mike pence to do, would you do it? unless the answer to both questions is yes, then that person will not be considered for vice president. i think you will see something similar in all of the key positions. that is a very dangerous circumstance and to the extent the senate republicans included take the confirmation process seriously. if they see people who are more loyal to donald trump than they are to the constitution, that alone is grounds against them. >> is there a certain person that you see as highly dangerous who you are worried about? >> i would not want to give any of them academy awards. i think there are bright people including people in the house and senate who have joined this cult of personality and the smarter they are, the more dangerous they are. >> you are giving us some very serious warnings and things to take seriously, but something i'm going to say is not that serious. a write in vote. this election is going to be joe biden or donald trump. in 2020 you wrote in dick cheney. you said you would do it again. are you really giving a clear and honest warning if you are willing to do another right in that won't help anything? >> look, i bought that argument in 2016 when hillary clinton ran against trump and i voted for trump in 2016. hillary and bill were a year ahead of me in law school and i like to say i've been burdened with them a lot longer than the rest of the country. after working for trump i could not vote for him, but i did not vote for joe biden in 2020 and won't this year because i don't think he is fit to be president either, for different reasons. when you have two people who don't cross the bar of acceptability, i think it is legitimate to cast a protest vote. a lot of republicans told me a year ago that they would not vote for trump. that they will look at biden and choose what they considered to be the lesser of two evils and i hear other republicans and some democrats say the opposite. it is an unhappy time for america when these are the two people we nominated and it will be a bad four years for america, whichever of them wins. >> then are these concerns that you have that serious? writing somebody and who won't when is not serious. >> it's a protest vote. if i didn't vote for anybody this time it would be a protest vote as well. i'm not going to vote for someone i think is not qualified, not fit for the office. i'm not going to vote for people whose principles i don't agree with. >> ambassador, think you for joining me today. pleasure to meet you. >> glad to do it. when we return, how hunter biden's guilty verdict could impact his father's reelection campaign, especially with the first debate two weeks away. when "the 11th hour" continues. ffects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ you know what's brilliant? 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>> they can't, stephanie and i think we are already seeing previews of how they will contort themselves and make the reach that, oh no, this hunter biden verdict is unique in and of itself. completely different from what is happening to trump and that is not the reality. i think republicans will still try to say that even though it has been demonstrated that they have nothing to gain here. they tried and failed repeatedly to use hunter biden as a political football and the responses today show that they fully understand that it is nothing for them to win here. i think we were describing trump statement as a distraction. so i don't expect them to stop at that, right? they will keep with the trump lies, but when we look at this broadly we have to keep in mind that that is not going to have an impact in the selection. throughout the afternoon we've heard it repeated that hunter biden is not running for election, donald trump is. we've also heard the contrast from president biden who fully says he accepts the jury decision. he respects the justice system, compared to trump saying it is rigged and i think that is a contrast that will be replayed again and again and that will be something that captures voters attention more than the verdict specifically on hunter biden. >> hunter biden is a one off. menendez's legal bills would disagree. the president has started to use the term, convicted felon, calling trump that over and over. now that his son is in that camp, does it make it harder for him to do that? >> no, because he is not talking about his son. he's talking about the guy running against him to be the next president of the united states. hunter is not running for anything. hunter is taking care of business and will have another casey will have to deal with, just as donald trump is taking care of his business and will have three or four other cases to deal with. from the president's perspective it is smart politics to call the thing what it is. why would you run away from that? honestly he is a convicted felon. we watched our friends on this network countdown each count, one through 34. i think for the biden team it is an opportunity for them to lean into the politics and this is a political campaign. what candidate in the country, in the world for that matter, would not use this kind of weakness that is self-imposed by his opponent? remember this is all because of what donald trump did. joe biden was not in that hotel room with stormy daniels. donald trump was. the reality of it is, that is the reality. that's the truth. those are the facts and why not talk about it when the moment presents itself? judging when and exactly how each time may be a matter of some decision, but lean into it and call the thing what it is. >> i want to talk about somebody else that talks about politics today in the presidential race. a republican we don't hear from often, paul ryan, he was on fox news and here is what he said. >> he said he is a populist and authoritarian narcissist. it is a job that rick myers the kind of character he just does not have. that's pretty strong. >> that's the way i feel. i agree with that. i don't support biden, either. i think his policies are terrible. >> a lot of republicans make this argument. we heard john bolton saying basically the same thing on the show. michael, what is your response to that? >> my response is okay. to a certain extent, to each his own, but at a certain point it has to become about the country. going back to your discussion with john bolton, the reality is this is a big deal. you have an individual who is running for president who says he wants to be a dictator. i don't know. that is not what we do or have done. that is not what we are inclined towards. yet we may have had folks in america who danced with this idea back in the 30s. and in the 1950s with john birch society, but leaders in this country and ultimately the american people said that is not who we are. i am not forsaking the future of my kids and my grandkids to some fool who wants to be a dictator, because i know what history has taught me about dictatorships and that is not who we are. so at a certain point the paul ryan's and john bolton's may sit and go, i can't do that. but what i am asking my fellow republicans to do and center- right voters to do is think about the country for once. think about the bigger issue. think about your kids and the importance of this. there are a lot of things about the biden administration policies i could disagree with all day long, but they are not a threat to my freedom. they are not a threat to my family and my future. i get up every morning and have that fight with the administration. i can't have that fight with thugs from a former dictator knocking on my door. i'm at a disadvantage there as an american citizen. so there are some important points to be made about this election. i happen to think that is one of them. i hope paul ryan and others will come around and at the end of the day what they do in the privacy of the voting booth is their business, despite what they may say publicly. >> i'm guessing right now mitch mcconnell is tucked into his bed, nodding and agreeing with everything michael is saying. in public he is going to be welcoming donald trump later this week along with fellow senate republicans. how do you think this will go? these two men have not met in person since 2020. >> they may loathe each other, but they both love power. they both love authority and that is one reason they will continue to do the public display. i want to go back to something michael said that connected the dots in the way that john bolton couldn't. understanding that threat is important because what bolton could not commit to is that trump is a threat to our democracy. it was jarring to me to hear that interview in a post january 6 reality, in an effort to undermine the 2020 election results reality, where trump still refuses to accept those results and his supporters refused to proactively accept the 2024 results and to claim he is not a threat to democracy. it shows a disconnect that again, it aligns with some of the other republican talking points that are completely not based in reality and outlandish. connecting the dots for the american public is critical and i appreciate that the biden campaign has started their outreach campaign to the never trump republicans and crafting a national narrative that will appeal across partisan lines. because understanding the threats. understanding the components of project 2025 is going to be mobilizing factors in the selection. >> juanita, michael, i appreciate the two of you being here. great to see you both. when we return, pride under attack. we talk about the growing hostility ahead of pride month with the head of glaad when "the 11th hour" continues. inu i asked my doctor about treating my td, and learned about ingrezza. ♪ ingrezza ♪ ingrezza is clinically proven for reducing td. most people saw results in just two weeks. people taking ingrezza can stay on most mental health meds. only number-one prescribed ingrezza has simple dosing for td: always one pill, once daily. ingrezza can cause depression, suicidal thoughts, or actions in patients with huntington's disease. pay close attention to and call your doctor if you become depressed, have sudden changes in mood, behaviors, feelings, or have thoughts of suicide. don't take ingrezza if you're allergic to its ingredients. ingrezza may cause serious side effects, including angioedema, potential heart rhythm problems, and abnormal movements. report fevers, stiff muscles, or problems thinking as these may be life threatening. sleepiness is the most common side effect. take control by asking your doctor about ingrezza. ♪ ingrezza ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ chewy, a citi client, uses citi's financial expertise to help drive its growth and keep its supply chain moving, so more pet parents can get everything they need... right when they need it. keeping more pets, and families, happy. ♪♪ for the love of moving our clients forward. for the love of progress. the chances of a plane crash -- 1 in 11 million. you're not going to finish those salted nuts, right? 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here to discuss, sarah kate ellis, president and ceo of glaad. what are we seeing here? >> i think it has been building. what we have seen the past couple of years is this intensity against our community from politician, from right wing politicians. there have been over 500lgbt bills proposed. only 37 have passed at the state level across the country. the damage, though, is done as soon as those bills are proposed. what the politicians do are filling people with rhetoric, misinformation, and lies about our community. and it is fueling hate. just in the past month, we have seen over 30 attacks on our community. this past weekend, we saw three bomb threats. it is a direct line coming from the anti-lgbtq activists and mostly politicians. >> we also have companies now. now officially saying no to pride, but quietly pulling back support. why is this happening? >> i'm not seeing that as much. i am seeing that headline. i work with over 300 fortune 500 countries and they are actually not pulling back. i think as a result from last year's pride and the bruhaha over bud light and target. what they are doing is integrating pride more into their every day. taking a 365 day approach versus putting all of their eggs in one basket. i am seeing an increase in commitment. i will tell you why that is. 30% of the next generation are lgbtq. 80% of the next generation identify as allies to the community. if you are a consumer business in america, you need to step up your ally ship. they realize that what they are trying to do is do it in really thoughtful ways. >> how much does misinformation fuel all of this? i have seen why does pride get a month. while others get a day. we have month that's support women, african americans, aapi. disability rights. where does the misinformation come from that almost makes lgbtq a target of things that are not even based in truth? >> we have a long history of our community being politicized. it has been going on for decades. where it is being fueled now though is through social media. this is a half of trolls that know how to exploit the social media platforms that spread these lies and misinformation. in fact, at glaad, we do an annual report on social media platforms for the safety of our community. and all of them failed. all the major ones failed. a piece of that we are unsafe is that they spread these lies and misinformation. and then it makes it to mainstream media. >> and it is absolute nonsense. that is why it is our job to tell the truth every night. it is always a pleasure to see you. thank you for joining us. happy pride month. be right back after a quick break. ack after a quick break. at what cost? 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>> yes. since the founding of our ideals, we don't know fully what american soil is.♪ >> happy juneteenth. joe biden, you know, lost. you know, so long as i see that night. they took everything from us. there's nothing that could ever replace my son. it's just the face of evil. >> just do whatever you can. to keep this monster behind bars. >> plus, my name is wanda. yes, it is. >> but that's not what you told me, man. u? l, yeah, but who are yo >> fox news alert. guilty. guilty. guilty. was the verdict handed down by a jury of huntes thrdict r bh peers for the first time in his life? hunter facede n hi the music.two two counts of lying on a gun for one count of possession of a firearm by a drug user. rearm byhunter biden appeared wd and motionless as he became siti the first child of a sitting president to be convicted of a crimnge. three felonies. hunter now facing a maximum5 of 25 years in prison. but the sentencing guidelineriss suggest just a couple. >> although the judge could deviate and dojue althou whateve wants, sentencing will probably occur before september 5th whenl hunter goes on trial in l.a. for tax evasion lan. that means hunter could be sentenced to prison justd prs days before the second presidential debate. >> he'll obviouslyid appeal. here's special counsel david weiss. after today's verdict. y's ve >> hunter biden wasrd convicted of two counts of lyingbiden wa on a form submr to a federal firearms dealeral c about his addiction or use oraf crack cocaine and possessing a firearm while a user or addict. no one in this country is above the law. everyonen thiss abov must be ach for their actions. even this defendanis t. however, hunter biden should be no more accountabler shoul y other citizen convicted of this same conduct. >> that's the same biden prosecutor who tried the h to hand hunter probation and lifetime immunity for the guns and the tax felonieund s. e wond >> so we're wondering where this newfound concept newfm. e jubility came froer here's what one juror had to say after the verdict. watcd to sayh. >> biden was on trial and he was just like anybody else.w, nobody's above the law. you know, and matter who you are. whattics played me no part in this issue ever. >> the jury followed the law. the judge ran a tigh ft triald t and justice was served. but justic because one democrat was convicted doesn't mean the american legal system isn'dt being abused. the feds are still throwing dozens of republicans in prisonp on trumped up charges and trying to incarcerate the republicanedup nominee for a crime they cooked up with black magic to hocus pocu s an election. hunter's judge didn't donate to a groupno called stop democrats either. >> the media celebrated the trump verdicmedit like a juy 4th barbecue, but treated hunter's like a funera a funerle >> this trial inside the courtroom, like virtually every criminal trial, was a personal story, a personal tragedy, a famil, way tragedy. >> every presidential family is part of the american family. that's the way it workresidents this is a tragedy for the biden familya that family drama playd out in a courtroom in ways we have never seen beforein way. iu it doesn't make it any less painful for the nation or bue r the family. but the verdict is now real now and the consequences will apply. >> this public life of this family, which bega tn a half century ago, after all, w with the car accident the wifeo sons lateit and his daughter, injured his two sons. you now fast forward all the way to today and this really dramatic and ultimately painful. process continues to hunter's everything: hunter the media cli to despise a white, privileged, sexist t, spoiled brad who barkb don't you know who my daddy is?s but he's a democrat. the >> so the media circles the wagons. the media ha cis more sympathy for a a crack addict who dumped a gun by a school than for gun a president who just wants to make america great again. >> moments t again. ago, hunter and joee we were seen hugging on the tarmac in delawar oe, where they'll be spending the night together. i'm sure this father's dayttle a weekend is going to be a little awkward. biden wishedwk he could have ben there sooner, but in an act i of poetic injustice, he had gun to attend a gun control event just hours before the verdict. >> there's never been a timeayso that says you can own anythinguo you want. never. you couldn't own a cannon during the civilt own war. think about it. how much you hear this phrase, o the blood of liberty. a wash it down. give me a break. if they want to think, to take on government, if we get out of line, which they're talkingte about, well, guess what? they need f-150s. agd a rifle. e i mean, the bottom line, hard times. no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.n wa >> biden's son was so cocked, loaded and high. >> he's lucky no one died. but he wants to restrict the second amendment for sober, law abiding americans. >> and by the way, s. our government had f-15s in afghanistan and the talibanoy one with rifles. >> we're not looking a to overthrowre n joe just to thw them out. >> after a jury found hunter guiltyry of gun felonies,prou joe biden said he is proud of them. i quote, jill anlod i love our son and we w are so proud of the man he is today. >> there's no contrition at all by the biden family. >> hunter didn't. show any remorse. he was smiling afterwards. his father is not ashamed. >> wouldn't even gently condemnm his son's actions. >> hunter has committed more crimes and we can count. and al l biden says is he's proud. the reason honor's broken, the law for 30 years and not paid the piper is because of his dad because. >> if every time i screwed up and my dad's response wa s, ov i'm proud, son. >> i love you, i'd keep screwing up. >> bailing somebody out over and over again doesn't mean you love ther over agat m. hunter was kicked out of the navy for cocaine on and administrativeou dischargeof a instead of a dishonorable one because his dad greased ats. ras hunter got caught with cocaine at the jersey shore way back in the 80e wans, and the senator sn had his record expunged when he left his crack pipe in a rental car. police investigated and dropped the charges when he put 20 grand on his dad's amex foree russian escorts. >> the secret service cleaned it up when he lostcr cleaned hi. the fbi and cia covered it up when he owed millions in back taxes as sugar brother footed fn he needed money for alimony and child support. daddy's donors bough dadt his his dad's own justice department tried to make the gutedae trien tax case go ag a year ago today. what makesday. you think daddy won't save them again? >> will you accept the jury's te outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is? yects. a pard >> and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? woyour sons. >> biden never used the word commute. commuting a sentence means sprin you just spring him out of prison. the charge is still on theirt os record. biden's going to have to save gg his son to savo sae his own hid. remember the taxes in the gun? only a fractioann of the crimes hunter and joe biden would be guilty of if prosecutor wouls were allowed to followal the facts. whistle blowers have testified that investigatorsw th w were br at every turn from following leads that led to jowinge. the cia and fbi and the treasury department's are all in on the cover up. >> a strong case could be made for trump. prosecutor cs to investigategate money laundering, racketeering, bribery, foreign lobbying conspiracies. donald trump calls the gun case don. tractio quote, the trial has been nothing more than a distraction from the rea a dl crimes of the biden crime family, which has raked in tens of millions of dollars from china, russia and ukraine. crooked joe biden's reign over the biden family criminal empire is all coming to an end on november 5th. and never again will the bidens sell government access for personal profit. >> hunter biden may have faced musi c today, but the verdict on joe biden will come november 5th. >> co-host of the five, judge jeanine pirro is here and she's matching mere. >> we coordinated judge will this judge sentenced hunterident biden to prison? >>o well, there are thosethin who think that the sentencing guidelines, which are no longeka mandatory, can call for between 15 and 21 months. enand, of course, if the judgedo wants to do a downward departure, she can do so. but she's got to give a reason to do so. i don't know that she would be inclined to do so, given a couple of things. n hunter biden could have pled guilty, admitted it took responsibility and admitted remorse. >> this judge also is a judge who was the one who first saw through the fact that the depaer biden team and the department of justice was trying to pull the wool over her eyesstic and create this immunity in perpetuity so that hunter biden would never be prosecuted for a crime for the rest of his life pro. >> i want one of those deals.s. yeah, who doesn't? right. and then in addition >> who to that, the nullification argument, i mean, the defense wentation ao this courtroom, justified any kind of reasone. and it was really an insult to the jury that saw right through it. t th i mean, you've got you've got the defendant whose voice whmbellowing in the courtroondan basically saying, i was addicted to drugs. you've got all kinds of evidence. to drug kinyou got a laptop that the biden administration and everybody in so-called intelligence said was fake. so this judge may say, said wa e what, enough of pulling the wool over everyone's eyes. maybe i'll give hi'seyes, i will time. >> so if the sentence comes sentence the fifth where he goes on trial for servs in l.a., does hunter immediately appeal? when does he serve a sentence orntence oul is dad come in com? i don't think his dad is goinggo to do anything before the election because he doesn'n have to. if there is a sentence that is imposed that calls forsentence some jail time, even a small amount, the defendant has the right to request the appellate bail. it will probably be granted. so he will not bte have to serve any any jail time. and, of course, joe biden cane n wait until the end of his term or he can commute a sentence. who knows? joe's changed his mind. we don't even understood d. tingtion but, you know, it's very interesting. i just want to say one thing. you know, that whole t the bidet family stood there and sat there in the front row with thi ins united front. you know, we love hunterd ever and every one of them is negatively impacted by huntem har biden being a crak addict and getting a gun. but in addition to that, everyonen to is part of thatha united front was getting money fromfr what you call the crimewl family from all over the world. everyone got some money from anl llc. so that family is nolct what the appear to be. and i think that the jury saw right through it. ju, nullificationti this guy. this is a very easy case. s s within whichhe they brought back this verdict tells me that they weren't pulling any punches. thi why do you think the president of the united states at a time like think unites when his son has been convicted of a serious gun charge that could have wound up havinga se a kid it fromth the trashcan and maybe shoot himself or his sister in the headnd may? e >> why doesn't he say anythingt contrite like my son made a mistake or i'm sorryjust that we're putting the country through this? >> just a gently worded phrase to show the american people that the family takes ftr some responsibility and has some remorse because hunter biden was considered the prince in delaware. everyoneed the princ called himd he's never been held accountable for anything. he's don anythinge. >> he's 54 years old. right. in addition to that, they'd admt have to admit the hypocrisy, because within hours of this sentencesy, joe biden was sayinr we've got to have stronger gun laws. we've got to make sure thesewe f guns are secure and kepte in safe places. i mean, come on, tell that tmeao your son. >> judge jeanine, we'll see you onn rrow the five tomorrow.. no more tries for a while or out of trials. i don't knowor what i'm going to do. >> what are we going to talk about? i'll see you tomorrow. see you tomo. congressman james comer joins me now. all right. songressmas comer jo, congressme actually sent referrals to garland, the attorney general, on perjury because h depoied to you guys in a sworn deposition. so he's got a lot hanging over his head heron.t e. shak how do you think that's going to shake out in light of this conviction? f thiswell, it's -- it's>> more problems for hunter biden. >> loo wel fork what hunter bidd in his deposition is he clearly lied. and why dition is hed he he lien to protect joe biden. but the fact that he lie d under oath is clearly perjury. this will be used to determine his sentencing. so not only do you have the gu so nn clear trial where he clearly lied on a gun application, the jury saly w right through that. now he's got his tax evasion charges where we know he didn'ta pay his taxes. we know to this daxes,y, yethi he hasn't paid his taxes. his taxes were paid years latesr by a major democrat donor, kevin moore, prior to the presidential election to help alleviate a problem joe biden haa probled in the presidential election against trump. so this what we've done with the criminal referrals, as you know, is the first step. errals ait's just the beginning. but it's a major problem foror hunter biden and it's going accu to be taken into account when it comes time for his sentencing. ann it thow do you feel as an investigator who cracked this case i wide open with the lapto, followed every lead as far as you could? ran into some roadblockse and they're only focusedar on a narrow tax delinquency and a a gundn charge, which they hade bs to prosecute because he had pictures of it all over the internetd pictur. >> how does that make you feel? well, justice has not been served. justice will not be served until the department of justic l noe takes into account all of the financial crimes that the fina biden family committed. w it wasn't just hunter biden. it was alsasn't io joe biden am biden. the entire family benefited from the biden the influence. peddling scheme. we had three people testify who were onc he partnersn with hunter biden in these schemes. they testified under oatinh that the bidens were selling the biden brand. big access tolin joe biden. there was never a legitimate business. we know from the irs whistleblowersr a they never ps any taxes on the tens of millions of dollars t they took from our adversaries around the world. we have laws in congresshe where i am right now that prevent people from doing this. froms.d the foreign agents registration act. it's called the foreign corrupt practices act. wen know that the bidensviolat have violated these law. so untiled the department of justice takes the real serious crimes into account, reale has not been served. if i listed the top ten crimese that the president sona committed, lying on the gun application wouldn't even makegn it so true. >> iunter biden taking the fall to save his dad? well, it sure lookthats like th, he, and he looks like someone that's got a pardon in his back pocket. you knows back pt., people ask e well, will the president pardon hunter biden? well, they're not finished. the department of justice isn't finished with him. first of all, they got this this tax n evasion trial.t th >> then they've got these criminal referrals. and as i'v crimine said many timeshed. over the past week, we're not finished. >> the criminal referrals were just referrals the beginning of the accountability phase. we've gonewe've go through great lengths and we've been very transparent and substantive with the american peopleth about the money this family's taken in. we've been very transparent about the 20 shell companies, the llc, that ththe e bidens hah that appear to serve no purpose thy. r i'n to launder moneer and when i say launder, i'm using the word that six different banks usedg in those suspicious activity reports. th money to tenbiden different biden family members. and according to the irs whistleblowersfa , they never pay any taxes. >> and you're still looking at new bank recordand you s thae just gotten your hands on. yes, we found new accounts >>ery day. >> all right. thank you very much, james comer. keep us posted. j thankmer, hyou.s secret let's bring in former white house press secretary and outnumbered co-hoseight kelly mcinerney. how do you think president biden is feeling toda bid y? >> oh, i imagine it's prettybecs rough because there has been reporting for a yeare evlus jesse saying that every single day he has been following hunter biden and the lega hs bel matter, so mucht that aides will bring it up to him and he will kinto himd of erupt. so aides kind of tiptoe around him. they don't wanf tiptoe at to bra poen though it is a live political story, one that wewhie talk about often. and the white house press briefing there was supposed house one today. there wasn't one.'t i imagine they didn't want to field questions on this oneae so i imagine as a father, thisa is a tough moment. ab doesn't even want to talkughe about the politics of this, but he'll have to at some points . >> but the verdict does contains the potential thrust into his own personal o and financial affairs, and so do the tax charges. they have been walled off from anything against joe biden. so at the same time, as distraught as he is about co his addiction and his conviction, he must feel politicallnv musy insulated froy future exposure. >> i think he does. look, i think i would be stunned, jesse, if hunter biden did not take a plea deal ahead of the tax charges. >> really, that is tax c where you start getting subpoena power. yes, that is where you start thg subpoena power all over all of these bank accounts accou that combentr is talking about.b he subpoenaed them on the congressional level, but they start cominpo on g in o a live court case. there is simply no way livwhen they allow that to go to trial when they know they've got to your point, iw they'v tf yout want to pardon hunter, you've got a commutation in your back pocker, youat. r pa you're either going to be a lame duck president or a second term term president. more likely the first. his son he's going to pardon his son. his son is going to takeon i a a deal. >> i would be stunned if he allowed that and he would take a ple and he wa deal to serve any time, because, remember, in thected serving time first plea deal that blew up. hk yeah. look, i think he learned a lesson. learned a d his hand. today. the facts are supposed to match the law in ordere s arh to getin a conviction. this was a slam dunk case. thw. acts match the la. he lied on a gun form. tax evasion. either you paid your taxestax e you didn't. in his case, he didn't. this is a slam dunk. if he would have taken a pleawoul deal today, it would have been much better for him when itld came to sentencing, would have gotten a much lighter sentence. so why would you note gott do that with the tax evasion where it's slam dunk? 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yeah, very simple. >> yeah. and won the last election. let's just let's just let's discust'tes and debate and we'll see. i mean, look, it's been aske d by donald trump. he refuses to answer it correctly, but we'll see what he does when he's givenans that opportunity in front of 140 million people. >> you know, it's a littlelion different on a stage like that. >> stephanopoulos thinksr 5th is november 5th is a referendum on january sixth. >> ndum on also, rachel maddow ths trump's going to put her in internment camp. >>p she's saying this i'm worried about the country broadly. >> if we put someone in powecour who is openly vowing that he plans to build camps, to hold millionss to of people, forconvn that matter. what convinces you that these missive campces theses he's plag are only for migrants? so about me, worriedgr but only as much as i'm worried' about all of us. anyon don't flatter yourself. if anyone's going to a camp, it's acoste a campa that only w. >> mondays is not like anybodyso miss her. >> no one's sending anybody to camps. ne is sendyou silly goose, excer our sons and daughters. so we can get some peace. >> quiet this summer. this preemptive strike against the next trump presidency is nothing compared to the preemptive strike againsthe ne t the supreme court, which has been relentless and vicious, includinsupreme g everything frm triggering armed psychos to hunt down justices to flagging recusal from the trump cases. is the goal secondarily, to delegitimize the cour t? so t the trump opinionstr are discredited. the latest dirtyump op trick, a liberal activist went undercover and secretl ye recorded justice alito and his wife during a private event. sh >> she pretended to be b a conservative and tried to baiting the justice intolous. saying something scandalous. >> watchwatch.. beke people in this country who believe in god have gotn our to keep fighting for that, to return our country to a plac a placee of godliness. oh, i agree with you. i agree with that. i support the george ruling by god. i support like i have verye brid i don't know how we bridgege that gap. >> i w you know, like, how do weis get people squeezed? i wish i knew. i would say i don't know. it's not i don't think it's something we can do to do anything. - i mean, we have a very simple, defined goal. >> we need to do our best to dos nothing controversial here about alito's answer. ia he doesn't think we're goingge to be able to change pro-choice people's mind, and he thinks weigio should have more religion in the country. o what?e >> but the media seized on it as disqualifying. >> we know alito is essentially a fox host on the court. new developments about supreme l court justice samuel alito's compromised ethicsop and open support and comfort with extreme far right cause ans >> formeres presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy join>>ers now.i did no i didn't think they'd have this kind of dirty tricldk in theirg bag, but they're going undercover now. what do you think'rcover ns viv? >> well, look, the reality is this radical left will stop at nothing to implement their agenda. >> yesthing to, they will go thh the law system. they will go through prosecutorial system s. stems, they will go through the financial system, and they will go through administrative agencies tial systhroughministr >> but the reality is thee am american people are seeing through the force that they have putericin up. and you fool me once, shameon on you. fool me twice, shame on me you. most people in this country now understand that the media's histrionics countrunderstas aren more extreme because they realize the people aren't falling for it they rea. but that's actually going to backfire, i believe, heading into november. and i'm fine e headembe with undercover journalistic tactics. that's been bread and butter founournaliseen brear for decad. but it's not like a big exposé. if he likes god and doesn't think he can change the minds of pro-choice americans. lik and earlier, i want to getg your take on this because we had some breaking news i earlie. >> the big one, hunteramerican biden found of three gun bre felonies this morning. in delawar e and could be facing up to two years, possibly more,y in prison if m judge no ricoth sentence him that way. what do you thin k this is going to do to the biden campaign? ii >> well, look, i think there'snk a couple of things going on here, jesse. i actuallycouple g think thisd particular trial and conviction is a bit of a farce. s ofit's a bit of a feignedo th retreat. note the timing. it came right after the trume tp trial and the trump verdict. the purpose of this is ine the public eye to actually eye legitimize the trump conviction. it's also designed, to legit too attention away from what they should actually going be going after the biden for which is selling off our foreign policy to make their family plae rich in places like ukraine, where hunter biden has in no business serving on the board of burisma, a state affiliated energy b company, which happens to beou the same country that we're non sending $200 billion of american taxpayer money to. >> so that's what this is aboubt . it's a bit of f a deflection all against the backdrop that these are federal charges nst thl charge when his father is the sitting president of the united fas thythose n absolutel pardon those actual convictions. convictionrd not fall fo that trick. and i think that's what this is really about. timing is everything: timingeryd in life. >> vic, thank you so much.hank have a great night. >> you too. >> wanda is back every body wanda is back every body weight and body, you know, th siri, a city client, uses citi's financial expertise to help drive its growth and keep its supply chain moving. moving. so more pet parents cand. get everything they need right when they need it. >> keeping more pets and families happy for the love of moving our clientrping)s for, . for the love of progress. well, this isn't going to work. >> try this. this will work. >> score, pick up score at walmart features like the people they're made for are meant to move groundbreaking. targeted compression and an anatomical design for a custom like fit all backed by a lifetime guarantee 15% off your first order at features .com. >> hello i'm former arkansas governor mike huckabee. a lot of times you can't control the amount of sleep that you're getting. you can't fall asleep or you're tossing and turning all night. you can't get the sleep. you need to stay healthy. i know it's scary unless you use relaxium sleep relaxium. >> sleep is a product that's made from natural ingredients and it usually works from the very first night. you try it. >> it helps you fall asleep, stay asleep and wake up refreshed, earning your body those quality hours of sleep that it desperately needs. >> join the hundreds of thousands of people who have experienced the relief and health benefits from getting a great night's sleep and get relaxium sleep. the first time i took relaxium and i slept through the night, i thought, wow, this worked for me. i could not believe it. >> relaxium sleep is studied, tested and designed by a neurologist to help you fall asleep faster, stay asleep longer and wake up refreshed. >> relaxium sleep worked from the very first night i took, i had more focus and mental clarity than i've had in years. relaxium is drug free and not addictive, so you can take relaxium every night and never worry about side effects. and the best part is it can start working from the very first night when i take relaxium sleep, i sleep better than i have in years. >> i wake up feeling like i've had the best night's sleep. stop being afraid and start sleeping your fears away with relaxium sleep your body and your mind. >> well, thank you. mike huckabee is so confident that relaxium will work you. >> he's asked us to give away 1000 bottles. if you're not getting calm enough to go to sleep, take relaxium sleep. >> i promise you it'll work. get your risk free bottle of relaxium sleep now. it's guaranteed to work your money back. visit. try relaxium rt.com or call 889 eight 9322. that's try relaxium dot com or call 808 nine eight 9322 when you can watch. >> listen. get the latest news business and news headlines on sirius xm. any time anywhere. fox news audio on sirius xm america is listening. >> jesse watters saying what most want. 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delay tactic. if hope at best they might get an evidencey hearing. how the boxes were organized this way. whether or not there is something of allegations of bias and improper storage. on on the merits, it doesn't absolve trump of the idea that he willfully retained the documents. he knew he had them in 2022. when he turned stuff over to the archives. he is talking with his lawyers they are telling him to turn it over. we keep finding stuff. it will not ultimately change anything. but it will quite possibly the way judge cannon handles things but it will drag things out a little more. >> we are at the first anniversary of the mar-a-lago case. anyone's guess whether we get to the second anniversary. bradley moss, thank you for your time tonight. >> have a good night. that is our show. now it is time for the last word with jonathan who is in for lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening. i would love to know if we are going to have a classified documents case but who knows. >> prepare a sheet cake with the number not on the cake and eat it or not. >> let's just eat it anyway. >> have a good show. today, a jury convicted hunter biden, the only surviving son of president joe biden, oh three federal gun felonies. after a little less than three hours of deliberations, 12 jurors many president biden's home state of delaware agreed with prosecutors that hunter biden lied on a mandatory gun purchase form by saying he was not illegally using or addicted to drugs at a time when he was. president joe biden responded with this statement. as i said last week, i'm the president. i am also a dad. jill and i love our son. and we are so proud of the man he is today. i will accept the outcome of this case and continue to respect 2 judicial process as hunter considers an appeal. joe and i will also be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing will ever change that. he didn't attack the verdict. he didn't say it was rigged. no. all the wild and irresponsible reaction to the verdict today came from republicans. some of whom have embraced the conspiracy myth that the justice department charged and convicted hunter biden of these felony to misdirect from other crimes. bigly crimes. unnamed. unspecified. imagined biden crimes that are much bigger and badder than all the actual crimes donald trump is charged with. steven miller posted the hunter biden verdict was proof that doj is joe's election protection racket. the trump campaign called it a distraction from the real crimes. one right wing commenter thinks it was cover for the trump prosecution? >> you go after donald trump and hunter biden. >> okay. in republican's defense, you might go a little crazy, too, if you had to defend backing a known fraudster, sexual abuser and now 34-time convicted felon for president. in a new op ed, merrick garland denounced the republican attacks on the justice department. quote, they are baseless, personal, and dangerous. today the doj sent a let tore jim jordan to confirm there were no emails between any justice department officials and the office of manhattan district attorney alvin bragg. quote, the department has no control over the district attorney. the committee knows this. despite that, district attorney bragg has agreed to testify before the house on july 12th the day after donald trump's sentencing. a spokesperson for the manhattan da's office said it undermines the rule of law to spread dangerous misinformation following the full count felony conviction in people v trump. nonetheless, we respect our government institutions and plan to appear voluntarily before the subcommittee after sentencing. joining us now, neil, argued more than 50 cases before the supreme court. he is a professor at georgetown law, an msnbc legal analyst and host of the podcast court side. thank you so much for being here. so now, some republicans are pushing the hunter biden jury verdict as proof of a doj conspiracy. this is some kerry matheson red yarn over a cork board stuff. did you have that on your bingo card? >> it is almost impossible. the verdict today makes these conservative claims look ridiculous. for years these conservatives have been crowing about a politicized justice department. what happened today, the justice department convicted the president's own son. his only living son. imagine what that would take. the president gave you that job. you have the power as every attorney general does to end the prosecution. with the stroke of a pen. and you didn't do it. that's what the rule of law is all about. and, similarly, the constitution gives the president the power to pull the plug on any prosecution. that is part of article two. so biden, president biden could have absolutely ended this prosecution once and for all. he didn't do it. that's the test about someone who has convictions in the system. and when it is over, you didn't hear joe biden wining about a trump judge though the judge here is literally a trump judge appointed by trump. rather you heard the president saying he would accept the outcome of the case. i know no other word for that but presidential. >> he even went so far as to say he wouldn't pardon his son. we saw this with judge merchan and it is merrick garland's way too, trying to lower the temperature in the wake of these overthe top trump republican attacks. do you think he is responding proportionally to the trumpian all-out war on our justice system? >> i was really glad to see the attorney general's op ed today in the washington post saying look, what the department does is justify the rule of law and we do so fairly and impartially. that's the justice department that i saw jonathan when i worked there in two different administrations. and it is like why people respect this country so much. this morning i had the privilege of speaking at a naturalization ceremony for 150 new citizens from 54 countries and what do they respect about america? they respect exactly a verdict like this. even the president's own son could be convicted by the president's justice department and the president's prosecution arm because this president respects the constitution and respects the rule of law. unlike some of these republicans who spit on this every chance they can. >> what do you expect to see when mat hat tan da alvin bragg testifies? >> i expect to see a big nothing. all sorts of innuendo related to how joe biden helped orchestrate the felony conviction of his own son though it was overseen by a trump appointed special council. and adjudicated by a trump judge. i'm sure we will hear cray-cray like that. the justice department said today there was no communication between the prosecutor who is the centerpiece of these crazy conspiracy theories and the justice department. zero. none. so have the hearing by all means. that is part of congress' responsibilities. but it would be nice to have some facts in these hearings. >> be nice to have some. but i'm not expecting any. thank you for coming to the last word. >> thank you. so, here is how you know trump knows it could get much worse for him. he is a dumb son of a [bleep] >> convicted felon trump indicted for his unsuccessful attempt to overturn the 2020 election praised the january 6th rioters who attacked the capitol calling them warriors. >> those j6 warriors were warriors but they were victims of what happened. all they were doing is protesting a rigged election. that's what they were doing. >> while trump was ranting in las vegas sunday, president biden was returning from france after commemorating the 80th anniversary of d-day. the biden campaign has released this ad slamming former president trump for being a draft dodger. a good commander-in-chief is somebody who gives a [bleep]. i served in the united states marine corp. >> i'm ed mccabe. i served from the 1990s until 2014. >> i'm matthew mclaughlin. >> it is the first time i'm shaking the hands of a president of the united states. it was pretty impactful to me to see an individual that supports troops not just on the battlefield but when we return home. >> i see a man in joe biden who accepts accountability and responsibility and when i see his predecessor donald trump, i see a man who is only in this for himself. >> who criticizes veterans. who doesn't see it important for him to go to the funerals. >> donald trump has zero accountability in his life. >> he is a draft dodger. simple as that. >> yesterday, draft dodger donald trump sat for his first probation hearing as a convicted felon. a mandatory requirement before his sentencing july 11th. meanwhile, president biden held a white house event commemorating juneteenth. a federal holiday he established in 2021 to recognize the emancipation of enslaved african americans after the civil war. in his remarks, president biden reminded the audience why black history is still so important. >> let's be clear. they are all ghosts trying to take us back. taking away your freedoms, making it harder for black people to vote. closing doors of opportunity. attacking the values of diversity. equity and inclusion. banning books about black experiences. trying to erase and rewrite history. it is not just about the past. it's about our present and our future. it is whether that future is a future all of us, not just for some of us. folks, black history is american history. >> black history is american history. joining us now, former assistant democratic leader in the house of representatives, congressman james cleiburn. a cochair of the biden harris 2024 campaign. congressman, always great to see you. welcome back to the show. i was at the juneteenth event last night and president biden has touted the inflation reduction act. lowering drug prices. but listen to how roy wood jr. talked about that achievement. >> we have legislation for cheaper prescription drugs. insulin is down to $35 if you are a senior. i don't know if anybody here has paid for insulin before. but that is like the bottle service of prescription drugs so we appreciate that $35 right there. >> i love the relatable roy wood jr. used to break it down. it is funny, but telling a policy success story. does the campaign need to do more of that? >> well thank you very much for having me. absolutely. we have to get this out there. this administration has a record that is unequal even cannot be imagined. by a lot of people who thought about these things as we went into the last election. this administration with this rescue plan has brought young children out of poverty. with this infrastructure bill is put in $65 billion for internet when we had no money for infrastructure in the previous administration. the chipping science act. it is inflation reduction act. all of these things people said could not be done. joe biden did them. and i get a little irritated when i hear people telling me well, he isn't talking loud enough. he didn't show the kind of energy we want. we are about substance. substance. not style. that is what will move this country forward. that is what will leave for our children and grandchildren a country to be proud of. real substance. you can talk loud. you can misrepresent. you can prance around. but, the question is, what are you doing? i used to listen to my dad's sermons and one of the things i learned early, it is their deeds that get them. not their words. if you get caught up on the words, they will pay any attention to the deeds, you might believe in donald trump. but if you are all about deeds, you will be supporting this president. this administration. biden and harris. >> let's talk about, some more deeds. because today, the biden administration announced that medical debt can no longer be considered in credit scores. president biden has made debt elimination one of his pitches on the campaign. but new polling shows americans are split on student loan forgiveness. three in ten adults approve while four in ten disapprove. how concerned are you about those polling numbers we see on the screen right there? >> i think it is because people have misrepresented this whole thing about student loan debt elimination. joe biden, if you look at the program, he made it very clear. we are talking about eliminating this compounded interest. and all these things that have accumulated beyond what the original debt was. i have a constituent. not a black constituent. a constituent in north charleston who wrote a letter to the president with a copy to me. his original loan was $60,000. over the years he has paid back nearly $200,000 because of compounded interest. and paying for it for more than 20 years. and still owed money. so when he eliminated that debt, it was on the compounded interest. not the original loan. and people need to look at that. when i hear senator romney says that this was a bad deal, how can it be a bad deal? the principle is paid back a long, long, long time ago. these people are paying compounded interest that has been put out there by people who are making money when the original principle was paid back a long time ago. so that is what is going on here. so nobody is paying anybody's debt. they paid off the debt. the compound interest people are collecting and putting people in the poor house as we say down south. >> let me get you on one more thing. let's talk comments that entertainment 50-cent made on capitol hill last week. listen to this. >> i said i'm identifying with trump. >> why do you say that? >> because they got rico charges. >> congressman, your reaction, black men are moving to trump because they have rico charges? >> look. he should have been with me last saturday night at this south carolina naacp freedom fund dinner. 100% support for joe biden. not one single person in there, male or female, for donald trump. should have been with me at greater target memorial ame church on sunday morning. 100% for joe biden. not a single person there. for donald trump. i don't know where 50-cent is hanging out. but i hang out with the naacp. i hang out with the black community. back faith community, and i don't see any support for donald trump. these people are not worried about rico, they are worried about their children's student loan debt. they are worried about the cost of insulin when it comes to their health care. they are worried about affordable housing. they are worried about broad band deployment. that's what they are getting from this president and they are not thinking about whatever it is 50-cent is talking about in rico. it is down in georgia. that is what donald trump violated. and so, we are upset because he is being called to account for violateing the rico statute? 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joining me now, kelly robinson, president of the human rights campaign. your reaction to what we heard. >> shocking but not shocking in the same sense. what she is saying about flags, it is not about flags. it's a dog whistle to maga bullies across the board. what she wants to do is use the flag as a symbol to talk about how they want to push us back into the closet. when i talk about what it represents, tomorrow represents eight years since the pulse mass shooting where 49 members of our community's lives were stolen forever. this kind of violent action and political rhetoric leads to real world outcomes so anyone that is listening to her, anyone that is watching what she says, should be very, very concerned. not only about her words but what it means in terms of the actions of people that are listening to her. >> uh-huh. this audio, new audio from justice alito tonight. listen. justice alito tonight. listen. >> kelly, does this sound ominous given the two abortion cases and january 6th cases to be decided? >> to me it sounds hypocrital. i remember when barack obama wore a tan suit and people acted like it was the end of democracy. and now, we are talking about a whole supreme court justice whose wife is saying things like this who is espousing these belief that's are concerning for someone on the highest court of the land. so i do think that anyone that is listening to the words that are coming out of justice alito's mouth, you should be concerned. but i also know if you are a person of color, if you are an lgbtq plus person, a woman, someone who is nonbinary, we don't have the luxury of putting our fear into a state of analysis. it is more critical than ever that we get out and we vote this november. our lives are quite literally at stake. >> uh-huh. trump is out there giving comfort to anti-abortion groups promising to defend life. these also sound like rights this ideological supreme court has no interest in protecting. >> they don't. they have said the quiet part out loud already. we have to remember that when roe v. wade was overturned and justice thomas' concurrence, he said out loud, the next the court should revisit lawrence. they should revisit griswold. they asserted our basic rights as lgbtq plus people in this country and our right to contraception so any time they say that these things are not on the table, look at what they are doing. we should be very concerned about what we are seeing and take it as a call to action. at the end of the day, we still live in a democracy. our votes still count. and there is something that we can do right now about how this court has gotten so far disconnected from its actual mission in our democracy. >> as i mentioned before, i was at the juneteenth event where i met your beautiful wife last night. but that's not the point why i'm bringing that up. i want to play something that vice president harris said last night. watch. >> across our nation, we witnessed a full-on attack on hard fought hard won freedoms and rights. including the freedom of a woman to make decisions about her own body, the freedom to be who you are and love who you love openly and with pride. the freedom from fear of bigotry and hate. the freedom to learn and acknowledge our nation's true and full history. and the freedom that unlocks all others, the freedom the vote. >> how important is it to stress to voters that the supreme court is on the ballot in november. what is at stake is more samuel alitos or more ketanji brown jackson. >> exactly. what i saw from kamala harris, that is leadership. at the end of the day when we think about this election coming up, it is not just about two candidates, it is two fundamentally different visions for our country. when you talk to people, a lot of our fears are the same. worried your kids will have a better life than you do. concerns about inflation. making sure schools are good and welcoming and safe. but i want to make sure that whoever we elect that their solutions are about moving us forward and not pulling us back. what the supreme court has shown that they are willing to do from the overturn of roe v. wade to all they have said and done in the last year, they are willing to roll back the rights not only of the last ten years or last 40 years but the last 100. we have got to do something about it for the sake of all of our communities and especially for the sake of our kids. >> kelly robinson, thank you very much for comeing to the last word. >> thank you. coming up, it's election night in nevada. a must win state for joe biden and kamala harris and a muster win seat for democrat ifs they hope to hold onto the senate. nevada senator jack see rosen joins us next. rosen joins us next. clogged gutters can cause big problems fast. until now. call 833-leaffilter today for your free gutter inspection. i've had terrible flooding problems on my porch. now i understand why. right now leaffilter is offering a free inspection, on your schedule. leaffilter is a permanent gutter solution, so you never have to worry about costly damage from clogged gutters again. call us today and schedule your free inspection. to schedule your free inspection, call 833.leaf.filter today or visit leaffilter.com. -cologuard®? 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>> the issues they care about our kitchen table issues that a lot of us talk about. affordable healthcare. women's reproductive rights, voting rights, saving our democracy, good education and childcare. basically kitchen table issues. >> what do you say back to them? >> we talked about some of the issues that president biden and harris put forward. the jobs that have been created. money that has come into green county for various rings such as our ymca and county seats in the city of monroe. basic issues like that. we try to point out to people what is being done. >> on the flipside on the ground, what do you hear from voters about trump if anything? >> that they really do not want him back in office. >> it is as simple as that. been, how voters get their information has changed, much more now on social media then with traditional advertising. how has that changed voter outreach? >> the first thing we have to assume is there is no silver bullet. you may get something on the local news that reaches some voters. some are reading the weekly newspaper that comes in. maybe they pick it up at the grocery store. we have to be everywhere. social media platforms, foreign science, door to door organizing, phone calls and text messages. show up at parades and county fairs, we build a surroundsound environment. we assume just because you said something somewhere does not mean anybody heard it. you have to say it everywhere and over and over. that is what it takes. trump is trying to confuse people. we need to bring people's focus back to what affects them directly. their freedom to make decisions about their own body and living in a democracy. who is fighting for them. trump promising wealthy donors whatever they want. that contrast does resonate for people but you have to go to where the voters are. >> sandy you have been nodding in agreement. my last question is, if biden were to come to green county and ask your advice on what he should say to voters, what would you tell him? 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to write comedy. aoc and rachel maddow claimed if trump elected they will be locked up even more terrified is the view of going to fat camp. researchers using ai determine elephants call each other by names in their own language i thought we already knew that. trace gallagher shannon bream the canadian cancer society apologized for using cervix instead of the trends friendly front hold. not to be confused with the word ass hole. south dakota governor kristi noem says trump choosing a woman vp would help in wynne especially if he needs help shooting bleep bleep and books mentioning butts and farts can't be banned in public libraries good news for my new book. you know it's coming. you know it's coming. so prior to a jury finding biden guilty and has gun trial as defense found an unlikely ally the second amendment the thing democrats hate more than they hate soap. last week in a last-ditch effort hunter asked that as the questionnaire he said violated second amend meant rights of the argued the question asking if he was a drug addict was unconstitutional in the state had no right to infringe on his second amendment's rights just because he did a little dope and buy a little dope i don't mean george stephanopoulos i mean so much coco scarface would've recommended rehab. is still the defense has a point so why is it unconstitutional well they argued historical intoxication statutes can't stretch far enough to justify disarming a sober a citizen based on past drug use and that i'm sorry but make sense is a constitutional for the government to remove the secondment meant rights of a person based on an the conflict let's forget about hunter the same law would borrow wounded that who uses cannabis for pain from exercising his right to self defense imagine a person in recovery who now owns guns should he go to jail never mind the ruling people from going to treatment or seeking mental health help i need it. now did hunter break the law sure but it's an unjust law you can disagree with me you are disagreeing with the second amendment it shall not be infringed but if that sounds familiar to you then you must be paying attention to our very own kat timpf rolled the flashback flashback dude. >> you can make the argument and said this is unconstitutional because the second amendment doesn't have an exception in for if you're addicted to something you can make the argument that is secondment meant rights are being violated which it would be funny to see joe biden asking the court to make that argument her next book now the rules say estate you should only applied for me during the monolog but her next book should be called how i tried to keep hunter out of jail but imagine that the sun of a democrat president suddenly puts on an nra part saying politics makes strange bella -- bedfellows but for the second amendment's state i daresay get hope hunter were a condom because i don't want that getting genital warts. so while the verdict maybe bad news for hunter it's also bad news for the second amendment he was found guilty of being in possession of a firearm as a drug user or addict but there is many americans who fall into that category. but it offers trump a golden opportunity to condemn it but the democrats in a box if trump calls unconstitutional the democrats agree suddenly they are on the side of the second amendment but if they don't it forces them to applaud the guilty verdict of the president sent i bet his dad would love that what if the commander dims -- commander and soiled briefs he said he wouldn't pardon him but the odds abide in remembering that are the same as michael loftus wearing underwear it's a headache for joe but that assumes he has feelings about the neckline hears him at an event last night. >> ♪ ♪ was that joe or a statue of joe. if he was any more frozen maas protesters would've spray-painted on his face. at this point the best they could do for him is unplugging with 5 minutes and reboot before calling tech support you want to hear something worse years joe today had a gun summit gun-control summit talking about you gun owners. >> by the way they want to take on that if we get out of line mr talking about they need f-15s they don't need a rifle what did he just say i kind of know what he said but still -- still is not about what you need it's your right to have a rifle this is the guy you believe january 6th was an insurrection apparently we shouldn't worry because he has f-16s or after 15 sees aft up and so his approval ratings dropping faster than his boobs when his bra comes off. even liberal election forecasters suggesting the unthinkable that biden drop out just he did in 1988 democrats what was a marketable candidate michael dukakis he says in biden just hit an all-time low and approval 37% dropping out would be a big risk but there is some threshold below which continuing to run is a bigger risk democrats would've been better served if you decided a year ago not to seek a second term and give voters a say among the many popular democrats across the country the many popular democrats what i hope he doesn't fill out a gun application soon because apparently he is high as well who do they have this guy it looks like a tennis pro gave the entire country club committed -- chlamydia like this chuckle monster i've seen whoopee cushions with more depth this guy's transportation secretary ellie transporter was illegal immigrants on midnight flights talk about a shallow bench they make fox and friends look like the supreme court what does joe think. >> no no luck nobody steps down i'm not going anywhere. if you're going to beat me after run against me and nobody wants to do the right who do they have the california debt guy at the hearing the teeth really when he likes him is him get the vp lady good luck with that mayor gaye judge booty pete he can't beat me nobody respects him and it's not because he's gay either. it's because he's not a real judge let's welcome tonight's guests. she can use -- to handstands will she grandstands. [ cheers and applause ] he puts the half and half i'm homeless michael loftus. her bumper sticker says food is for losers new york times best-selling author and contributor kat timpf and he doesn't wear hawaiian shirts he wears hawaii as a shirt new york times best selling author, comedian and former and debbie way world heavyweight champion tyrus. kat i would go to you first even though you're not a lawyer but i'm interested what you thought of the verdict given your verdict feet -- of fillings on the secondment creek. >> you know how i feel because we talked about it this morning we also know i agree with everything in your monolog i think that what i read about is the way partisanship can do divide us and convince us to argue in favor of giving up her own rights this is a good example about that because everybody who wants to see the biden family go down i understand where that comes from i certainly think they been involved in corruption i don't think this is the thing to slammed him on because based on the data we do have on drug use in gun ownership tens of millions of americans could be guilty of felonies and faced decades in prison over the exact thing what i argue he was a responsible gun owner i would not but there was no victim here in the law doesn't designate that somebody who uses marijuana who's a veteran or a wounded veteran for chronic pain could fall under this and what you need to do to avoid it having partisanship clad your thoughts is take the biden's out of ask yourself do you agree with and is a constitutional debbie or second amendment's rights which shall not be infringed nothing what so ever do you want that to be up to the subjective standard of what doesn't doesn't qualify as an addict and have the government be the ones allowed to make that determination and the answer if it's no as it is for me then yet to be against us and also even if you like the law if you think it's a great law you have to say -- he can't really argue it's constitutional there's a difference between a statutory law unconstitutional you can't argue it's constitutional regardless i you feel about it. emily in the greenroom you said you hope biden fries. >> rereading my thoughts? >> no. geographic at orgy think it's a different thing how do you look at it. >> is a great point let's have that is the foundation over which let's put historical statutory applications bottom-line in 1968 the gun control act was passed where congress said you can't possess a gun if you are under the influence of you're addicted to these controlled substances then the controlled substances act which defined what that meant to be omega go for a whole decade here they make gutfeld stop it. >> the reasons many americans are vulnerable and that hundreds of thousands of brothers and sisters and parents and uncles have been incarcerated is because of those lawes going all those decades back so currently over 157,000 people are incarcerated federally it's a federal prosecution 10% of them second-most is for firearms offences number 1 is drug offences so i also feel when the jury when they were pulled from the beginning they said over half of them direct family members they sought as being 1 more person just that being your last name you won't get away with it i saw them get incarcerated as well i cite taken away also so at the end of the day on the president released a statement saying we love her son were going to appeal and his family in court look so angry i feel it's welcome to the real world there are 157,000 american families going through the same thing right now he just went through today. >> can i just say some thing superfast i would love to see this actually get overturned on appeal and then it can strengthen second amendment rights for all of us. >> it would have to be the supreme court like for circuit courts and stuff. >> greg: you legal ladies pop -- pipe down i have to get the homeless guy in here. >> greg: whoa-mac he was she could go to prisons you could have a roof over your head? >> as a homeless lesbian i do and i realize now that i have developed a cardboard and shellfish allergy so no more sitting around eating clamps from a box. >> no more freak lamotta juice a want to talk about joe locking up you have to to keep them away from bright lights they are calling them home that's where he went he was just standing there going uncle bo z is that you did the un have an uncle bo z. you can't even clap at that point. as to the gun thing. [ snoring ] it's a good point in its true and is not what i want hunter to go to jail for what about the rest of the. [ bleeps ] laptop. it's like sweet jesus i'm tired of the crimes where it's like yet to be careful about pulling that down like when trump as his attorney do something that's 34 felonies that you are slinging guns around high school dumpsters and doing drugs and that's just a 3. it makes zero cents the only thing good about this is a gives hunter a better story when he meets his fellow inmates right if he's like i opened up several shell companies and i was taking money from ukraine and putting that in the shell companies 10% would go to my father you might as well just suck a dude off their. >> greg: tyrus finish this out for us. >> he wouldn't to got that far. >> really disagree with you guys but if you like your examples are flawed like when you talk about the veteran. prescription lead is legal so he's not an addict the skylight about being an addict he's taking controlled substances yet to commit the crime to get it anyhow he is again there's a reason that simply as anybody who lives there it's a reason he was so he is lucky when he left the gun in the car it was someone in his family who got it he lifted there someday took it or there's a reason why we put these things in place of crack was legal he wouldn't be an addict unfortunately alcohol is legal because it was first it's 10 times worse than most drugs but you can drink all the beer you want and say i'm not an alcoholic and you aren't lying. he asked if she was asked if he was an addict they check the box and 7000 people testified he lied so. [ bleeps ] send him to jail like the rest of us who commit crimes. crack is illegal. 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[ bleeps ] for 8 years that's likely going to say now why would else do you have it's passed that they overplayed their hand in their worried about consequences everybody who try to get away with stuff and lied and push false narratives are now afraid they're going to get their comeuppance and they call revenge are gonna me a camp signal you shouldn't be allowed to call yourself a journalist when you peddle lies narratives if anything once he wins where you going to do now because no matter what you do he's gonna finish his 4 years in the winds again absence like always going to lock me up at the celtics when the championship jayson tatum and jaylen brown are going to come to my house and beat me up. >> greg: by the way how does she think he's going to lock her up like what could be the crime like she leaps from a he becomes president i go to jail she leaves at all the stuff in between i was like is it because she's a journalist like whatever she is i don't know because it's so preposterous and if it's being a journalist but year paolo barack obama if you want to see the high volume of journalists imprisoned it's like they are in a space capsule they haven't evolved so outdated like listening to robert de niro when he was ranting and raving recently the thing coming out of his mouth trump's not going to accept the results fascism and he's wearing a mask is like watching somebody from 2016 and you're like we are so past that i don't know who listens to her but it makes me as lame as it sounds there are camps with millions of people in them and they are in china if i would her i would steward or time and platform a little better because the trump delusion derangement syndrome is stupid and i wish she would use it for sighing actual. >> greg: well put. >> maybe they would go on tv and say she has to go oh, no,. >> greg: coming up a coach to a slam dunk a question which stunk. for my patients. it really works. ♪ with fastsigns, create factory grade visual solutions to perfect your process. ♪ fastsigns. make your statement™. this is steve. steve takes voquezna. this is steve's stomach, where voquezna can kick some acid, heal acid-related damage to the esophagus called erosive esophagitis, and relieve related heartburn. voquezna is the first and only fda-approved treatment of its kind. 93% of adults were healed by two months. of those healed, 79% stayed healed. and voquezna can provide heartburn-free days and nights. other serious stomach conditions may still exist. don't take if allergic to voquezna or while on products with rilpivirine. voquezna may cause serious side effects including kidney problems, diarrhea, bone fractures, severe skin reactions, low vitamin b-12 or magnesium levels, and stomach growths. call your doctor if you have diarrhea, stomach pain or fever that won't go away, decreased or bloody urine, seizures, dizziness, irregular heartbeat, jitteriness, muscle aches or weakness, spasms of hands, feet, or voice. voquezna can help kick some acid, and so can you. ask your doctor about voquezna. home inspectors, general contractors, roofers; all kinds of pros recommend leaffilter. why? 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>> the journalist come on we need to stop using that term more watered-down than a racist in these days. when joe came and i thought he was too young didn't have experience but then he pulls a stunt like this you heard the race baiting pin just drop and nobody had a follow-up question they're trying to get him a gotcha moment glad to see a brother stand up and say it has nothing to do with my coaching ability or anything it's my work ethic and faith they got me where i was at and just ended it. forget the fact that we are up 2-0. i invaded his podcast dropped a bit and the full went for like it's a bin prank calling him a week but again it goes to the point where most of us just like the funny blackeye get field the skin is knowing to do with character and jokes. some glad her prominent black eyes because a lot of times psycho that school and he said enough of the seas done this before he did with the rowe family is like what was it like sing next to the prince he was like jesus is only king i serve so just murdered them all the time kat as a devout christian and sports however how do the comments make you feel great. >> like i could be a sportswriter. >> yahoo sports. >> i'm serious because i could have known he would have answered this way there are a few things i follow lasted then basketball because you know what i did i googled him but to think you're going to go into an interview the same person when asked about meeting at the royal family answered like o'chiese as mary and joseph this is a christian man gaia prioritizes his fave talks about his faith you could've known he would answer this way if you bothered to google so sportswriters don't need to know sports or even pretend to google it if things don't work out here i'll just go to espn i guess. >> do they put basque ballgames on at the shelter? they do fro chicken wings from a distance to catch me where they actually from chicken? >> completely rowe seo and have to fight to kill the chicken with your single can of pork and beans the question was crazy is like for the first time since 1975 okay it was settled in 1965 are we seriously arguing about lack of diversity in the nba okay. let's out of the fight arrow lysed trans people having coached a single team in aussie let's get in there and fight for the ball and help me change my address. >> you are insane tonight mr loftus taking special outrageous bills last to you emily. >> only because of them. >> what you think. >> my point is do your research on the person you're covering but the promise we lived in an anti-christian anti- judeo-christian society is wei harrison becker i would say but to us and i know that's not right why he was vilified for speaking out for his faith at a catholic college in a filet no problem pray for them being a twitter handle when you tragically dropped on the field prayer is only okay when everyone else doesn't so i applaud this coach irrespective a sports team skin color or anything for being a bastion and beacon for being a christian man in the social environment. up next a texas court overrules banning books on butts in schools [ ♪♪ ] nobody is watching the news. [ ♪♪ ] >> gary: almost 11 on the east coast let's talk about butts and farts ruled houston area schools and libraries kennel longer banned books that mention but and farts like "i broke my butt." and larry farley leprechaun. tyrus, are these books a gateway does shakespeare and chaucer? >> i think this is a gateway for your new tv shows where you have afternoon shows about farts and butts. >> gary: that's a great idea emily, as an adolescent boy in my past, i loved about farts and butts. >> if this is what gets a little boy to read, i love it. it is hysterical that there is this category but at the end of the day the ruling that you can't ban the book because you don't want to see the message but you can ban if it's unpopular so for those communities who do not want them to read about butts and farts. >> trace: my dream is to be number 1 on amazon in the category i don't know if there is a button fart category but i want to be the trailblazer. >> i'm glad this ruling has been made those on staff picking up the slack and you been a way lobbying for this. >> gary: it was tough. being a homeless guy, you come in contact with smelly butts and terrible farts and that's how i know i'm alive but it unites people rather than divides. farts are always funny and as long as they're not teaching little kids sex stuff and those are the books you want to have and here's who's riding these books because i wrote a book doing well at amazon.com because you have to do the follow-up and it's don mcmillan is our whole thing she's written five books exclusively about butts. what's all that about and they all have the pseudo-porn titles that, hey, ladies slow down. we get it. >> greg: we need a second but. >> i glued my butt. >> greg: will talk about that will b e right back. 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that's uncalled for. and on that note, i wish you a very, very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. i'll see you at the end of tomorrow. exclusive never before heard audio recordings of justice samuel alito speaking to an undercover progressive activist. that's what we have tonight. that is in addition to the bomb shell recordings released yesterday and we will definitely want to hear these recordings when we play them. if you have been wondering how those secret tapes were made in the very first place, how activists and judges on the highest court in this land, that begins almost ten years add to this day when the supreme court handed down a major decision. >> supporters of the hobby lobby cheered today's victory. the oklahoma family that owns the chain of 500 craft stores claimed providing insurance coverage for some forms of contraceptives under obama care would be the equivalent of paying for abortion. that will allow companies to opt out of any law they judge incompatible with their sincerely held religious beliefs. >> the hobby lobby decision. the majority opinion was written by justice samuel alito and one of the first signs that conservatives on this court were willing to go after reproductive freedoms no matter the consequence. in the wake of the dobs decision, hobby lobby seems like the canary in the coal mine in more ways than one. november of 2022, the new york times offered key reporting about how the hobby lobby decision came to be. for years, conserve tiff christians had been engaged in a campaign called operation higher court. that operation was to personally court and influence the supreme court's conservative justices. it was spearheaded by a man named reverend robert shank who would recruit christian couples he called stealth missionaries to gain access to the judges and impress upon them the importance of conservative christian values. the justices were more likely to let their guards down at the historical genders. see a justice, boldly approach, he told the couples. if given the opportunity, bear witness to biblical truth, but don't push it. he said. your presence alone at the historical society events telegraphs a very important signal to the justices. christians are concerned about the court and the issues that come before it. that strategy appears to have paid off. some of shank's stealth missionaries were able to build enough of a relationship with justice alito and his wife martha anne they obtained advance notice of the hobby lobby decision before it came out. that breach, that unprecedented breach foreshadowed the leaked dobbs decision striking down roe eight years later and that specific strategy of using the supreme court's annual historical society dinners as a way to gain access to supreme court justices, turns out that, too, is relevant again just this week. the dinner is a yearly event where wealthy donors give money to a non-profit dedicated to supporting the court's history in exchange for their money, the donors get to rub shoulders with the justices and their spouses. as it turns out, conserve tiffs weren't the only ones in on this little arraignment. last week, lauren winsor who happens to be a member of the historical society bought a ticket tothe event. when she got in, she pretended to be a conservative donor. she approached some of the conservative justices and secretly recorded her conversations with them. nbc news has not heard the full tape of what was recorded so we cannot say for certain where edits were made if any were actually made. tonight, we have some brand new never before heard audio from that event to play for you. you will hear something familiar to what was on the tape's release yesterday. justice alito who is aggrieved and frustrated. who is nakedly partisan and totally unconcerned by appearing to be all of those things in front of a total stranger. remember, what we heard yesterday. >> as a catholic and as someone who really cherishes my faith, i just don't, i don't know that we can negotiate with the left in a way that like needs to happen for the polarization to end. i think that it is a matter of like winning. >> i think you're probably right. on one side or the other, one side or the other is going to win. i don't know. i mean, there can be a way of working together or living together peacefully. but it is difficult. there are differences on fundamental things that can't really be compromised. they can't really be compromised. so it's not like you're going to split the difference. >> that's what i'm saying. i think the solution really is like winning the moral argument. people in this country who believe in god have got to keep fighting for that to return our country to a place of godliness. >> well, i agree with you. i agree with you. >> remember, at this closed door cocktail party, windsor was able to get justice alito's wife to explain her deeply personal motivation for flying two insurrectionist flags in front of the alito homes. that is a story that had just scandalized this court and these recordings this week would seem to suggest mrs. alito has no shame about what she has been doing here. in fact, quite the opposite. after deriding feminazis who have been critical of the scandal engulfing her husband, she made clear these flags are explicitly her form of resistance and response. >> you know what i want? i want a sacred heart of jesus flag because i have to look across the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. >> exactly. >> and he's like oh, please don't put up a flag. i said i won't do it because i'm deferring to you, but when you are free of this nonsense, i'm putting it up and i'm going to send them the message every day. maybe every week i will change the flags. i made a flag in my head. this is how i satisfy myself. i made a flag. it is white. it is yellow and orange flames around it. and in the middle of is word vergogna. it means shame. >> just the be clear here, justice alito has publicly stated his wife did not fly the flags to associate herself with the stop the steal movement or any other group but it seems clear his wife very much sees the flags as a form of political expression and a response to what she believes are liberal attacks. >> it's okay. when they come back to me, i'll get them. i'm going to be liberated and i'm going to get them. >> what do you mean by they? >> there is a five year defamation statute of limitations. >> i don't know who you mean by they. get them. >> the media. >> okay. so, martha anne alito, the wife of a supreme court justice say she has a plan to get back at the media suing for defamation and thinks she will have the opportunity to do that in the next five years when she is free of all this nonsense. is sam alito's wife telling us something about justice alito's retirement plans? how concerned should we be that a supreme court justice's pows is talking about the american media with open contempt? tonight, we have brand new audio from that same event where justice alito himself tells us what he thinks about the fourth estate. the press. the other voice is an associate of lauren windsor's who was also at this event. >> i just wanted to ask you why do you think the supreme court is being so attacked and being targeted by the media these days? >> it is a simple reason. they don't like our decisions and they don't how we anticipate we may decide some cases coming up. that's the beginning and the end of it. and there are groups of very well funded by ideological groups that have spearheaded these attacks. that's what it is. gets a lot of money. and they have spent a fortune investigating clarence thomas for example. you know everything he has ever done his entire life. and they've done some of that with me too. but you know they look for nit little thing they can find and try to make something of it. >> nbc news reached out for comment from samuel alito and his wife but have not heard back. joining me now is lauren windsor. progressive activist. lauren, thank you for being here. i know you have had a busy week so far. let me start with the new sound your organization, your colleague has given us. there are two parts of this new tape that strike me as concerning. alito says the media has not liked how the court has decided cases and may decide upcoming cases, was that a window into what may be coming down the pike the next two weeks? how did you interpret that? >> i interpret it as a harbinger of bad things to come. >> did you get the sense when he was talking about the media and specifically citing propublica and their extensive investigating about clarence thomas. that these stories are very much being shared behind closed doors of the supreme court. his media awareness seemed to be relatively high. >> oh it's very high. he already had a sense of grievance when i first spoke with him in 2023. but it was much more pronounced this year. two conversations that ali and i had with him. >> can we talk about the context here? for those of us who have not been to supreme court historical society events, is this what happens at them? we have two bomb shell series of reports about conversations, advocacy campaigns and attendees from the supreme court. >> i initially read the report in the new york times about reverend shank. that played into my going in the first place. but i didn't read that report and think i should become a member now. it really was incited by the propublica reporting on clarence thomas. justice alito wants to rail about the money taken by propublica for invest good faithing public servants while clarence thomas is not disclosing millions of dollars of gifts from gop donors. i have no idea what propublica's finances are, but as someone who is an independent journalist, i would imagine that the money that clarence thomas has taken probably rivals the budget of propublica in any given year. >> it is such a good point. what did you hear in alito's explanation for that? did you hear, it seems there is no contrition. but is not even an acknowledgment there was any wrong doing on the part of clarence thomas in accepting potentially millions of dollars in unspecified gifts from conservative donors. >> i mean, you know, it is not vergogna bay verbatum. i don't consider that paying for tuition or getting a free rv loan. these are all things he has accepted from gop donors. it would be a different story if this was just about vacations he was taking with harlan crow and his wife and family. most people would write it off as oh, it was a trip. most people would not consider traveling with friends or associates as being something that is that big of a deal. but that is not what we are talking about with clarence thomas. >> it is another order of magnitude and it has been going on years. i guess some part of me is surprised that you not knowing the alitos, you are just a random member of the historical society is able to even get within shoulder rubbing distance of a justice and draw him into conversation about some of the incendiary topics in the country. the partisan divide. how did it unfold when you were in the room with the justice? >> it should be stated in the guidance for the events, the historical society says if you broach topics that are before the court, it may be grounds for you to be kicked out. so there is aprocess. how do i approach someone with that not only are judges supposed to be really the height of discretion. the height of you know, judgments. right? i definitely went into this assuming i was not going to get anything news worthy. in 2023, i did not get anything news worthy. the scrutiny has intensified so much and his grievance level is much more piqued that unlike clarence thomas who did not show up to this dinner. but has been reported to have shown up to it many times, and he didn't show up in 2023 by the way. that alito would probably attend anyway though he was undergoing this intense media glare. sure enough, he was there. and i think it was, i can't say what was in his mind so i don't know if in 2023, he had the the same level of grievance and it changed over the course of the year. there's a couple of options there. did it change? >> was it hard to get him to talk? at the very end of this conversation, he says are you a lawyer? it wasn't like you had offered any biographical information other than having a husband who was not in the room. how did you actually get into conversation with him? did you just go up to him and start talking to him? >> so the reason i brought up my husband was that in 2023, i came with a male friend. so, the context of it was we had a conversation, after dinner in 2023, my male friend was with me. he was not with me in 2024. so when i saw justice alito solo, it was one on one. it was hi there, my husband really wants to let you know we are rooting for you. you have all the grit. the reason i said you had all the grit, this is because donald trump had tweeted something out about how you know, there should be more justices like samuel alito with the grit samuel alito has so i felt like it was flagged if you will. to alito. that it was. >> a safe space for him. >> a safe space, yes. i was trying to signal to him coyly without saying trump. because it goes back to the way to broach who has the highest level of discretion. you can't talk partisan politics if i walked up to him and talked joe biden or donald trump, he would have shut down. so talking polarization was a way to, a way into the conversation that wasn't as aggressive. but also indicative of what we were trying to get at. was he acting on bias. and i do believe that american people deserve to know. is the supreme court so compromised that we do not really have impartiality that bedrock of our judicial system. i think hearing it from his mouth that he cannot be impartial that some things cannot be compromised, that needs to be fuel for journalists and congress to say what are the things that cannot be compromised? >> look, you brought us into a room that few people are ever in. these tapes are revelator. it is, we are not done having this conversation. thank you for bringing some of that to our air. we are really appreciative. thanks for spending some time with me tonight lauren. >> thanks alex. coming up this hour, we have new details about donald trump's presentencing meeting with his probation officer. turns out, he is being treated differently. just maybe not in the way he would like you to believe. the first hunter biden today joined donald trump in becoming a convicted felon facing possible jail time. does that mean the system is now unrigged? we'll get into the republican response coming up next. epubli response coming up next. missing out on the things you love because of asthma? get back to better breathing with fasenra, an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma 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( ♪ ♪ ) president biden's son hunter biden was found guilty on three felony gun charges and given this news you might have thought the maga conspiracy about president biden rigging the justice system, maybe you thought that is going to collapse. it did not. >> today is the first step in delivering accountability for the biden crime family. >> you have been saying two tiered justice system some time. the president's son being convicted three counts. >> every case is different. and clearly the evidence was overwhelming here. >> do you think the department of justice is still weaponnized against conservatives though we see this verdict? >> when they tell school moms they are domestic terrorists because they don't like what is taught in the classrooms. we could go into it but we won't. >> a trump campaign statement released today calls hunter biden's trial nothing more than a distraction from the real crimes of the biden crime family. and in lock step with the party front runner, the chairman of the house oversight committee said the work will not be done until the department of justice investigates everyone involved in the biden's corrupt influence peddling schemes. joining me now is charlie psychs. charlie, thank you for joining me. this criminal conviction is a distraction from the real crime family. is this going to work? >> it was awkwardment it is awkward for the talking point it was all rigged. that the biden justice department was weaponnized only against republicans. but, we live in a world in which the reality and the facts have a hard time catching up with the spin. and you can see how deeply invested republicans are in their talking point about the biden crime family so it is not a shock they will continue to repeat those talking points. over and over and over again. but i do think the contrast and the reaction to the conviction of donald trump and the conviction of hunter biden has been very, very telling here. this will come up at the debate and you though donald trump will try to make an issue of the fact that the president's son is a convicted felon which will be awkward being a convicted felon himself. but democrats have been making this point. and the media have been making the point that there are a number of democrats facing indictments under the biden justice department. not just the president's own son. they don't feel the need to explain that at all. they will just go with the spin. >> i wonder who the spin is for. you talk about the reaction. this was the statement from the president of the united states after his son is convicted of felonies. as i said last week, i am the president, but i am also a dad. jill and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today. so many families who have had loved ones battle addiction understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out the other side and be strong and resilient in recovery. as i also said i will accept the outcome of this case and continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal. jill and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing will change that. i mean, that just, it is a very strong statement. it is a tough statement for a father to make. and i feel like that just undercuts whatever the republican argument is of the rigging of the system. among the voters that matter. >> the conviction of hunter biden shows the system is not rigged. it also shows this is the way the rule of law looks. this is what it looks like when no one is above the law. and president biden is also said, you know, has said on the record, that he will not use his pardon power to free his son if hunter biden gets a prison sentence. now, there are some people skeptical about that. but i don't think there is any reason to doubt his word at this point. and again, this creates a really significant difference between the tantrum donald trump and his supporters have thrown and the acceptance of the rule of law and the decision of a jury presented with all of this evidence. the point you are making is who is this for right now? almost everything republicans say is for the audience of one is for donald trump. this is what the base wants to hear. but, that is not the group of voters who will be deciding this election. >> and not to wax too poetic about it charlie. but embedded in biden's statement is a call to empathy. right? for those who have fallen for people who have addiction and are trying to make it through a dark, dark period. versus trump who is all grievance all the time. and i think we think a lot of things. we don't know a lot about where this country is headed but appealing to people's sense of forgiveness and empathy doesn't seem like a political strategy that has an expiration date. am i being too soft here? >> no. again it is an interesting contrast. joe biden's superpower is his empathy. and republicans are not going to give him any credit for it but a lot of americans will say okay. this is a tragic situation. you know, there are questions about hunter biden's judgment and his behavior. but also, what you are seeing from joe biden is, this is what a father, a father who has lost his other son, how they would react to something like that. and there will be a sliver of the electorate with crucial sliver that will look at that and say we understand that seems human to us. something we can identify with and admire in opposition to the conspiracy theories and the victim card playing and the really vicious attacks on the criminal justice system and the jury system coming from donald trump. >> yeah. it is a real choice ahead. and, this will be very, very indicative of who we are as a country. charlie, thank you for your time. it is great to see you. >> thank you. still to come this evening we have some new reporting about what appears to be a coordinated effort to broadcast disinformation about this fall's election on your local newscast. plus, when it comes to donald trump's criminal conviction, republicans need a reality check. we have one. that's next. eality check. we have one. that's next. 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>> this is something that is so routine and it typically takes hours. to the extent there have been things that have been different for him. they have only been different in his favor. most defendants have to come there in person. it is a drab office. these things take hours. there are reports his probation interview took half an hour. this is an opportunity for probation to ask the type of questions that a judge might want to know on sentencing that don't come out in the trial. so this is somebody obviously, this defendant is somebody who is so well vetted everybody knows everything. but for most defendants, the judge doesn't have a sense of who they are as a person. what their family situation is. their immigration status is. are they using drugs so a lot of people know this about donald trump. but, so you could say well, half an hour, maybe all you need. but the fact is this is them doing their due diligence. to the extent it is on zoom. the lawyers there. it is only half an hour to tex tent that it is rigged or different, it has only been in his favor. >> the other piece of this that he likes bringing up is the presence in this case on the da side of matthew calangalo. he previously worked at the department of justice and now works for alvin bragg and they have literally used him as the missing link of joe biden and alvin bragg. let me say for people who are not familiar, this is how trump talks about him. >> he is a radical left from the doj who was put into the state working with letitia james and put into the district attorney's office to run the trial against trump. >> we will take issue with it. put into? passive in that statement. but you have gone between the doj and the doj's office. is that a normal thing that happens and now in line with reality is this argument? >> in the letter, just today, the department of justice said this was conspiratorial speculation. i think it is something a lot more sinister. it is an attempt to undermine law enforcement. first off, the manhattan da's office and doj work together all the time. there are joint task forces on terrorism. on hate crimes. there is a joint task force that looks at the filings that banks file. the suspicious activity reports. there have been joint cases prosecuted by the department of justice and the manhattan da's office against banks like standard charter, ing. there have been cases every day that are deconflicted between the department of justice. they don't arrest the same person. people go back and forth. i went from the manhattan da's office and back. robert morgan, the most famous manhattan da who served for 35 years from 1975 to 2010, prior to becoming. >> he was an obama plant. is that you are telling me? >> a stooge of the administration. >> it is preposterous, there is no sense these cries of foul play will end any time soon. this is all coming to a head on july 11th when there is the sentencing hearing for trump and i guess i wonder what your expectation for that is. and whether there is anything to be done around the cries of foul play in a rigged system that are inevitably going to come up no matter what he is sentenced. >> it is such a hard decision for the judge and you wouldn't wish it on your worst inny or both sides. nobody should want him to go to jail or want anyone to go to jail. it's a sad day. the prosecution is virtually going to be asking for jail time. the defense is virtually going to be asking for a sentence of a conditional discharge saying he has been punished enough by the felony. and there will be outcry on both sides. i don't know there is any way through the political thicket of it other than to say this is a judge who has been around the block. he will be taking this seriously and fairly and i think you will see a sentence that is sort of free of some of those political considerations. something that he will be, maybe down the middle. both sides will be able to make of it like a rorschach test and they will be able to argue around it. >> well, that is not exactly, you are not giving me the inside dope on what you think it would be. but look. for all of that we have seen, it feels like the volume will only increase into july 11th. thank you for helping us through this. coming up, trump appointee judge aileen cannon tosses out part of trump's indictment in the classified documents case. but first, some very orwellian messages being broadcast from your local news stations. that's next. your local news stations. that's next. i'm out of breath, and often out of the picture. but this is my story. 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ag from billings montana, "i thought we were supposed to swim away from the shark know we have to punch the shark, which one isn't?" you punch firstly is a way. i'm telling you an expert told me that's the way to get out alive. start from oceanside california, "if biden refuses to leave the white house its because you can't find his way out." maybe he doesn't know if he loses. k. from tester, virginia, "biden will be in the beach peat-mac it's joe who will lead the white house." all, joe. doctor biden, accused me. always remember, i am watters, and this is my wo world. >> ♪ ♪ >> ♪ ♪ >> sean: welcome to hannity and tonight here are those -- six words in the english language that every -- every democrat loves to recite, "no one is above the law." not even turn on fake new cnn, msdnc,, you will hear that phrase a lot, but only when you talk about trump or other republicans. when someone on the left commits a crime, that's a very different story." for example, over the weekend, you had rioters dressed up as islamic extremists by delighting historic monuments. c., resulting law enforcement, drilling project out of the park ranger, no consequences. it looks like they they were trying to have an insurrection peat-mac there were no arrests, no fines, no dramatic leaves on the left for anyone to be equitable peat-mac will have a full report and more video at this weekend's disgusting right along with a message for those who were mad at israel for successfully and quite heroically for wing four hostages in gaza. and another message from fake new cnn which seem to think that israeli hostages were simply released. know they were rescued. but first we turn our attention to some of the most shameless and morally corrupt people in america that would be there biden's. many in the mob of the media they like to point out that hunter biden's ongoing trial is an end like -- example that even if biden conveys justice but in reality hunter's trial is but a perfect example of the links your government will goes to allegedly to protect the son of a prominent democrat. know according to the very real contents of hundred's very real laptop the president's and engaged in a life or crime for many years, you the evidence seems transparent win were running but you decide. he was on a massive scale that remember the fallout of the 2020, 51 intel expert signing off on a letter claiming the laptop had all the hallmarks of russian disinformation? this after three years of lies being cuddled over and over again, the russia hoax by the media mob got all of the salajko all of it based on a dirty dossier pallet rca becomes the basis of lying to fisa courts four separate times. two of them signed by mr higher -- james guo me. in reality that the so-called experts were spreading this information. all they knew about the laptop was nothing remotely only knew they wanted joe biden to win. you think had apologized? don't hold your breath. know that the laptop is official evidence at hunter's gun trail, fox news digital reached out to the all 51 intel experts that sign on the letter and most had no regrets at all whatsoever for my they got what they wanted. the hell joe biden get the election in 2020. so even claiming that it was the patriotic thing to do. a means to an end. anyway of course joe biden is no president. the evidence of the alleged wrongdoing on that laptop is shocking and murky have rampant drug use, hundreds of thousands of dollars seemingly, i can say for su sure, spent on soliciting sex, purported tax evasion on millions of dollars in income that needs to be invest investigated. refusing to even file tax returns in certain years. along with the possibility that it should be investigated, of money laundering possibility of -- tied to his own father. many americans can rightly sympathize sure with his addictions and personal struggles but not the millions of -- in millions and millions made with businesses and mitch he admits he had zero experience at all or the shady actions of his father's department of justice, which is politicized and when the size -- weaponize. according to the new york times that the orgy prosecutor was -- gavin white remember he's going to sleep the whole thing plan a under the rug, no charges at all after purposely letting the statute of limitations run out on some of the more serious -- on to plan b mack that was that -- because the judge actually read the plea deal have started asking real questions about the totally completely unprecedented nature of the deal. and i were on to plan c. well after years of investigating, let's make this guy the special prosecutor -- in delaware in a courthouse there and hope for the best. the jury is of -- has officially begun the deliberations, you know, any outcome would surprise me including outright acquittal or a hung jury but they'll decide if hunter is guilty on the three felony charges. out miraculous hunter of lying on an atf form when purchasing a gun contrary that he was not addicted to drugs. -- as we alleges that hunter illegally possessed the gun while addicted to drugs were actively using drugs. the evidence seems to me overwhelming based on evidence from the trial, one day after binder can hunter texted his girlfriend, he was waiting for his dealer and the next day hunter texted his girlfriend, he smoking crack so let's be clear, these allegations are not a joke. joe biden of his fellow democrats d. love to lecture you about gun control in fact president biden is now proposing tighter regulations surrounding lawful gun ownership and steep penalties for anyone who dares to step out of line? and his own son is on trial but gun crimes. but if this is the only child that hunter! this will only prove that biden's the orgy as we have been telling you is politicized and weaponize. the judge instructed the jury to ignore hunter's prior to the first family but let's be clear that it's because of those ties that hunter now is only facing gun charges in the biden friendly menu of delaware. he is not getting the normal drug treatment like trump got in new york with the valuation of mar-a-lago at a mere $18 million in a case that involves valuations. the judge in a civil trial was more guilty of valuations fraud then anything the accused donald trump of. and, of course, we have the case of alvin bragg, misdemeanor statute of limitations expired charge to a felony population parameter don't even tell trump what you're charging him with. you know, more impotently about that biden -- bidens, whited foreign oligarchs, whether they pay hunter biden millions of millions of dollars according to the johnson grass lease in that report? what service was he capable of providing if he was admittedly addicted to drugs at the time? know if he was lobbying on behalf of a foreign entity, why didn't he register with far argument isn't required by law? invited hunter and the entire biden family use over 20 shell corporations according to the house oversight committee with those echoes actually used to follow foreign funds to different members of the family? interesting questions, right? the big i financially benefit from hunter's foreign deals and anywhere? according to the laptop that apparently is very real while the big i had 10% put aside for him and hunter complaints bitterly about giving her fist -- and complain about paying for tops. [applause] home report -- everyone of you watching this show about meeting with his son's business associates a crew member has enjoyed it and over he never one time ever spoke to his son come brother or anybody about this foreign business deals. devon archer says that he recalls joe biden calling to at least 20 meetings hunter and his foreign business partners. and what about marissa mark? the ukrainian energy giants mark hunter admits no experience in oil, gas, gaheer gran willy goes on good morning america but then gets paid millions to set on that company's board? and then joey might recall, bragged about leveraging a billion of your dollars to get the ukrainian prosecutor investigating this company and his son fired? brags about getting it all done within six ours. the result of that firing? hunter continues to get paid for zero experience of the remainder chinese energy conglomerate see -- will take -- seaver for another day. ethicacy hunter's gun trail is really just the tip of the iceberg. rightly i would call it low hanging fruit when it comes to hunter. and just below the surface, it's not a pretty picture. and make no mistake. where family can ostracize their own 5-year-old granddaughter and ignore her existence until shamed by moreno at the new york times and the never even follow-up to talk to her, meet with her, include her, it's safe to assume the worst. of course, everyone including hunter other innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, right? so tonight we continue to await the verdict at a delaware -- out of delaware, not exactly unfairly menu for biden. you're reaction be a fox news conservator jonathan mack let's get your take on the case as an outside observer following it closely as you've got i felt the evidence was overwhelming incontrovertible that i thought -- actually -- i was actually pretty impressed with the prosecution in this case indicates that eventually did put on but only because they were forced to. >> the prosecution -- did an admirable job. they were right on the very -- in a very tight case. was most impressive is that a below the defense council put up a series of differences that collapse within two days. particular this methodically destroyed all of these cla claims. and in the normal case that jury would've been out for an hour and come back with a conviction. i mean this is very obviously in a fence that was comm committed. but that is not what the real difference is. i mean as implausible as these arguments are there really placeholders. the defense is playing to a delaware jury. this is biden town. this is wilmington. this is where the home of the biden family resides. and i think they're looking for jury nullification. and to add to that there's a certain degree of sympathy for someone who had a tragic fight with drug addiction. so we will see what happens tomorrow. there's no question in my view that the government struck the landing you're. the approve the case. the question is whether they can get the jury consider the evidence and not just who the defendant is. >> sean: what do you think the most -- and i do respect abby as an attorney. i think the one thing hunter has going for him is abby -- abbe lowell and i would argue there are not many great attorneys and dc but he is a good attorney for sure. and i thought you did as effective a job as he could considering the hand that he was dealt with was awful. with that said, do you think he was able to cast doubt in any area that sticks out in your mind? >> no. you know, the argument that was made by him starting out was leaving someone else check the box back and they brought this -- mr cleveland forward who doesn't do that out of the water and said i stood there, watch him check that box and the other boxes and pulling to take his time which he did the emma keenan said while he was really sort of bum rushed into buying a gun and cleveland said no, he came in intending to buy a gun. and then there was this ludicrous argument that he had this sort of immaculate sobriety are at least he was just drinking, not using drugs, and the government destroyed it and it showed it catch the very next day were you trying to meet mookie to score more drugs today after that passing that he is doing crack in a car. any he had with the system forward to say that when they saw him do crack, he was doing it every 20 minutes. so live these things survived within two days. but again -- >> sean: i apologize, i thought you were finished. you agree with me that the real important issues that people should be concerned about -- and this is a serious issue of the crime aspects and charging him he here. but i think the more serious issue involves how much money that -- hunter was making without experience at a time he's addicted to drugs, seemingly offering those services that we can identify as of now. >> that is exactly right. you know, what's amazing about this case is that it blew away their own defense that the media has been repeating for years that they've been noticing that hunter biden really was this incredibly competent in demand businessman and international experts. in his book and in this trial is clear that he was addicted to having a vertical time managing the most basic parts of his life. but he was getting millions from his companies. >> yeah. >> sean: jonathan turley, professor, think you for joining us, fox news legal analyst, harvard law professor, alan dershowitz, professor you actually on a satellite tonight. i don't have you on your little, you know, zoom thing. it's great to see you little bit clearly comak will start with you tonight. accurate -- to your take on the case and you agree with the last question asked professor turley which is about, you know, this is low hanging fruit as far as i'm concerned considering the millions and millions of dollars that they brought into this family at a time he's addicted to drugs and, you know, with no experience admittedly an interview on good nourishment good morning america? >> the best thing they could possibly happen to donald trump is if hunter biden gets acquitted. because the evidence against hunter biden is so much more compelling of the legal issues which were compelling than anything against donald trump and it will prove beyond any doubt that this is all about where the trial was conducted at that if your trump in you tried in new york is automatic guilt and if you're biting and you tried in delaware, it's a different bird. to the best thing you could possibly happen to donald trump is the acquittal of the biden base in all the. would also be a good thing for america. it would uncover and disclose the horrible double standard that our criminal justice system is going through. maybe we can get some reform. maybe we can do something about it. right now our criminal justice system is the laughingstock of the world and i feel you're so horrible about it. i've been with -- able to 60 years of my life to try to defend and explain the legal system based on neutral principles that legal system is gone. the trump case destroyed it. and if there were an acquittal in this case, at least it will expose that. know there maybe a condition in this case but is often it is so overwhelming that won't hurt donald trump payment but if there were an acquittal it would help donald trump and were mostly in the court of public opinion, nobody would believe that the new york -- there's an acquittal in this case. >> sean: is such a difference in terms of the venue. it seems that if you want equal justice and equal application of our laws and the one constitutional order, it's all going to depend on the value of it all going to depend on whether -- are politicize and organize the prosecutor may be and how abusively bias a judge can b be. >> yeah, as a hole and the notion comes to -- is additionally of impartial jury. but here, the facts are so simple. the law is clear, the evidence of guilt overwhelming other events argument that hunter was in denial about his addictions. so there is some -- that is so absurd. but look if hometown jury is already in your back pocket then jonathan is right, sympathy injury notification might actually work. and it doesn't matter that jurors are not allowed to negate the law. they do it anyway sometimes because secrecy of deliberations protects them. they can do as they please without consequence. but having said that, prosecutors to have an advantage. it would have to prove that hunter was high on drugs or addicted on the day he brought the gun, only during the general time frame and that was proven conclusively threw text messages, photographs, witnesses, his own words from the book he wrote their mark hunter it turns out was the best witness against hunter, which is precisely why he chose not to testify, he would've been completely shredded on cross-examination. >> sean: predictions, professor dershowitz. >> i think the evidence is so overwhelming, there could be a conviction. but i wouldn't be surprised if we saw jury notification. remember calgary litigation cuts both ways. would have been in new york when jury notification. the jury found that innocent person who committed no crime whatsoever guilty because of the judges instruction and because the prosecutor made up case. that when jury notification with judge nullification. this could very well be a case of jury notification as well. >> sean: prediction, gregg jarrett. >> this has been a no-nonsense, honest judge that federal judge. huge difference between this judge and train one. in the jurors follow their duty as they must there will be a conviction. >> sean: all right. no outcome, of the guilty verdict up acquittal, hung jury, nothing will surprise me or. but we will see. thank you all. appreciated. when we come back, things are so bad, i mean, so bad for democrats, you've got prominent democrats and even a prominent election forecaster 40 the idea that biden should drop out of the race, our friend james carville is using his mind. got players on him and much more as hannity continues. >> ♪ ♪ erogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast. 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's james carville, i was before mark penn gotta let him speak for himself. but it's brandon jones, it's david axelrod, it's maureen dowd, nate silver now joining the chorus. you have been saying, do you still believe 140 days out, do you think you will replace biden? >> i absolutely believe they will replace biden. i believe is going to happen either at the convention or shortly thereafter. i think the democrats or four too strategic and therefore too used to winning and they enjoy winning four too much to take arrest with joe biden and i know they took a risk in 2020 but when we look back at the debates in 2020 and wheeler, when he was nearly -- newly elected he was in far better shape than that he is no and he was slipping then. thank they can possibly take that risk. who believe they will swap him out. i also think that when it comes to this first debate we need to actually raise our expectations of joke because as counting it as a word if he is able to step up bright and complete a sentence is giving him far too much credit because then he'll claim the victory that is located after the state of the union because he was able to get through it in one piece. so we have to raise our expectations of biden and we also have to put the onus on the democrat agenda and not just the messenger, but the actual message. because if and when they do swap out biden we have to be ready on the republican side and cannot be cut flat-footed if they bring gavin newsom and anything shiny new toy, we can't let that happen in the strategy of the democrats is unmatched can never forget that. >> sean: i don't think it would be gavin. i think it would be more likely be what more of their their bypass vise presidents harris. mark, and anybody really conclude anything else, that smart number, like yourself, you really don't want biden, do you? >> well i think i'll defer that one, per se. but like i didn't think he was going to run. you decided to run back and you know what, east of the democratic primaries. these are he's delegates, is his convention. the idiot he is not going to be the nominee i think is a fantasy. getting the party is around him, i don't know why jim said what he is that there is not really particularly useful at this point. the only thing i'll say is this debate -- >> sean: well do you know what he said what he said? >> is a little risky. >> sean: do you know he said it? >> what's the point of saying that now? >> sean: it's obvious this guy is a mumbling bumbling, stumbling, fumbling, you know, you can barely string sentences together. however,, i do take tommy's and mr -- thing will see the return of jack up joe. whatever joe drank at eight, took before the state of the union, maybe it was just read bull and caffeine pills. i don't know. whatever it was that that was not the normal joe. we never saw it before and we haven't seen it since. but we will see it for the debates. know there are some even saying, mark of the donald trump might be wise to just pass on the first debate with bill his nominated linda beat him. what would you say to that? >> i would say he accepted i it. accepted an alliance that. if i were donald young out of them somebody negotiating here. but i would think you out now without really looking cowardly. and i think biden has, you know, said he went to meet the challenge. i think it's a big task whether you think intact or not. if you can get to that debate at the leftist campaign and if you can't suspect it might actually be -- joe my have been donald trump a fever and i see this affectionately by insisting that with is not his term to speak that the mood -- -- your reaction? >> i would hope a lot of things for that first debate. obviously is stacked against onto and we know that but i think donald trump had an incredible opportunity in this first debate back more presidential that he's ever acted in his entire life to push everything on joe and joe's feeling agenda and his failed policies which is a democrat failed policies and agenda. demek from justice back and he lets joe talk himself in to a corner of the normal jump will not force the images have to restrain himself which i believe he can do apple it and can act as prejudicial and dignified as possible and he will win against joe biden and his failed policies. you simply can't stand on those and quite frankly can stand at all. >> sean: all right. let me ask you this. if, in fact, joe, for whatever reason, mark penn, went out. tommy is convinced it would be gavin newsom. i'm not so sure. -- i don't think it would be gavin. that is my guess. have no insight, knowledge, except he only and over and over and over again, when i interviewed him and interrelate with governor desantis that he wouldn't do it. okay. so i think the most likely person if it's not vice president harris would be governor whitmer of that is my take. people uprooted the name michelle obama. everything she's up to the job myself. would be the most likely democrat, who would you pick if you had to choose somebody? >> well again, and have to go through the history here. these delegates were nominated for this tickets. harris i think would be the likely nominee if, for some reason, at any reason, joe biden had to remove himself. you can bet on that is almost a certainty feature you think it would be kamala harris? >> yes absolutely. >> sean: all right. the game is on. i don't know what you guys want to bet but, you know, feel free, you know, off air. thank you, both. when we come back all right four israeli hostages, thank god, held by hamas terrorists since october the 7th and they were rescued during what was a daring raid this weekend. we have the video of it. but your vice president is making sure to appease her far left base rather than praising those involved in the heroic read and we'll tell you what the left also said about this heroic moment. you think they would be happy the hostages were freed of the people that were involved in taking them, yes some of them died back but every death not taken place since october 7th, the blood is on hamas. 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[ gunshots ] [ gunshots ] [simultaneous talking] [ gunshots ] [ gunshots ] >> sean: a very courageous, serious complex military operation but over the fake news cnn one -- "hostage release?" know that would be a rescue. keep in mind that is in network that is supposed to host the upcoming presidential debate. so can fake jake tapper and dana bash really be objective or test -- object or trusted? of their liberal talkshow host color not generalist as they came -- claim to be. also vice president harris she warned the palestinians, "tragically killed during the raids and called for an and back to the war complaining of course to her extremist left-wing base which showed up in full force this weekend in front of the white house and probably started vandalizing monuments in lafayette square reportedly screaming at police and secret service in demanding the illumination of the state of intro. secret service agents, you know, were told to kill themselves there's a lot the -- release for some of these radicals and by the way we were forced to retreat from the insane mob. anyway here with reaction of former senior aide to president trump stephen miller and from l'affaire project -- you know, the people that are responsible for the murder of 1200 -- the people that took all these israelis and americans hostage and is real bravely is risking lives to go save the lives of people i argue that every death of every palestinian that blood is on the hands of hamas that started this war that killed these israelis and the worst terrorist attack in history and it's miraculous that they got these four hostages and that would be called a rescue not a release. you're reaction. >> sean,'s right to be with you here can mike mcivor detail you're absolutely correct. under the laws of armed conflict it is hamas, a terrorist group is responsible for the death of civilians both israeli civilians and palestinian civilians. but have to ask yourself of knowing is happening in this war right now, at what point under the laws of armed conflict do you lose your civilian status? because let us not forget that it was over 2000 gallons civilians that broke into israel on october the 7th mark it was the garden civilians along with hamas that tortured, that raped, that murdered, that burned israeli civilian babies al alive. it was garden civilians let then took israeli civilians as hostages. that kept civilians who murder others civilians and you must be sure that no matter what you call yourself, if you kidnap and murder israeli civilians the idf will rightfully hold you accountable. >> like any sort of like that coastal illiterates, you know, hollywood leftist george clooney knows -- literally wanting bibi netanyahu to be brought up on war crimes has he is literally trying to defend his own country from radical islamic terrorists, you know, how people like that moral clarity stephen miller got a number for the life of me understand. israel has the right to self-determination have to defend their country from a group that has in their charter a call for israel's destruction at what would've been 40,000 dead americans in our database under population and then you have, you know, jack ash actual actors like george clooney and his wife going after the prime minister for trying to preserve their country? really? you know, where is your moral compass, mr clooney? although mr i being too polite like much. >> there isn't one. there's no moral compass. the radical left in this country has decided that it's on the side of hamas. is as simple as that a commercial is a genocidal terrorist organization. one of the most evil and vi vile, repugnance, organizations alive today or at any point in the history of humanity as has been discussed congaree county butcher valley murder of the torture they sexually enslave women and children, broke -- barbarians. joe biden' democrat party is now playing for the pro- hamas in this country. they're playing for whatever sliver of voters in this country think is sympathetic to hamas. know that's morally indefensible, but i would also say its politically idiotic because for every row hamas brought in this country there are 20 motors, 30 voters who are horrified and as appalled by the atrocities of hamas as we are on this panel tonight. i believe joe biden will pay a deer price for cozying up to that segment of the u.s. electorate. >> sean: this is one of the saddest moments in u.s. history are not only did he have -- advocate america's role on the world stage as the leader of the cause of liberty and freedom and that he also surrendered in the war against radical islamic terrorism by saying "were not going to help israel defend against those people that attack them on october 7th, you know, just the perfect bedfellow to raise money george clooney and his wife thank you both. appreciate. coming up another truck joe biden virtually tied in the state of virginia, the commonwealth. wildebeest it flipped reed in november? 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joining us with more coverage in the governor glenn youngkin. governor adolescent gaheer victory really shocked the world in many ways because a lot of people like myself included, that virginia had gone solidly blue as the northern virginia was -- hired too many dc employees will vote for the bureaucracy and he became that much more difficult of a state to win. is a state in play for the long-term? >> i believe it is and that's exactly what the polls are showing us. just like georgia and pennsylvania and wisconsin at michigan and nevada and arizona, those battleground states are seeing the exact same kind of statement that virginians are making. they want a strong america. a1 america has economic strength. not that biden terminated economy establish in -- conventional flowing over every day. we see it in virginia, we literally have five virginians dying and i read from the demo overdose and we had two illegal immigrants crash negates at quantico in a box truck recently. anyone in america that has energy independence. we are so tired that i can hear every single day of being told that you have to buy an ev if you live in california but not in virginia anymore because we declare our independence or that, in fact,, you have to pay 20, 30, 40% more for a gallon of gas because of the biden field energy policy. they want trump back in the white house because he built a strong america. and that's exactly what we've seen in virginia over the course of the last couple of years there a commonsense conservative policy works. we've unleashed you referring economy in virginia and i think what is the international level. yes virginia is in play come we've got hard work. but i'm telling you when they put the records of president clinton against president biden, i believe that virginians and americans are going to find themselves pulling the lever for president trump. >> sean: when i was with president trump last weekend and i did an interview with him your name came up and he asked me if i spoke to you often and i said well occasionally, you know, we have spoken and you come on the show and he said when you told him, tell him i'm going to give a call. i want -- i would say expect a call from president trump. i'm just a mere messenger. you know, what about northern virginia because it always carries me because there are so many dc bureaucrats that's live in the commonwealth of virginia that work in dc and how big a percentage of the vote is that going to end up being the commonwealth? >> in order to win virginia like we did in 2021, you have to lose both in virginia less badly. and what we did of course was we won hispanic vote, we one the asian boat. we one the independent vote. people already -- are ready for change. and in 2021 we were ready to see parents put back in the head of the table, back in control of the children's lives. they were tired of government taking all of their hard-earned money and putting it in government coffers were sleeping in in her pocket. they wanted a chance to build their lives the way they wanted to build them not being told what to do all the time, mandated masts and oh by the way man it was kind of car you drive. this is virginia and, of course, i think this is america. and therefore the plan to win virginia is of course to lose northern virginia, less bad but to get over 40% of the vote and not get out in the rest of the state and that's exactly what we did in 2021 and when you look at president from' straight across virginia that's exactly what he can do. >> sean: limit your final question. and donald trump and i know you -- your name has not been out there prominently but if the long-term called you and ask you to run with him what would you say, governor? >> well first, i would be honored and humbled and tell him that there is a ton of talent the republican party today and i've seen them everywhere and it's my job to finish my time as governor and help him win virginia. but i'll tell you what, we have to make sure alec to get donald trump back in the white house because america can't withstand another four years of biden. >> sean: is not a hard no? >> let not your heart be troubled there is a realistic view of the fact that there are so much talent that i think he can have a great choice and find lots of people. >> sean: i understand. all right. governor that always great to have you on the program. when we come back, the white house pulling agencies of internet, did not go away -- well for joe. straight ahead. >> ♪ ♪ home inspectors, general contractors, roofers; all kinds of pros recommend leaffilter. why? it's engineered for performance. because with leaffilter's patented filter technology, there's no gaps, no openings, no place for debris to get in at all. leaffilter is a permanent solution we install on your existing gutters. you'll never have to climb a ladder to clean out your gutters again. our installation process is simple and easy. just give us a call and set up an appointment today. we'll come out and give you a free gutter inspection. if your gutters are sagging, we'll repair them. if they're broken, we'll replace them. if they're in good shape, our local trusted pros will install leaffilter in as little as a few hours. and the best part? 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[ ♪♪ ] >> dana: the news today is the jury and in the format gun try getting dismissed for the day a. deliberations wrapped up with no verdict. blackadder tomorrow morning at 9:00 am as they decide whether the first gets the first the joint 25 years in prison snubno the presidents and did not knowingly lie these said about his drug use from purchasing a handgun in 2018, but federalargu prosecutors arguing hunter hadr lost the power of self-control when you bought it. that the evidence back set up.wm hunter biden sent a drug dealer who had had tried to meet up with did they before, he lied on the gun form.e meanwhile the biden family is out in full force, rose joeen biden tht'e president sister anh brother were among the several d family members present in courtu topp support hunter.wa president biden was not there and the democrats and media are giving him credit for that. >> of the president of united states has removed himself from this, explicitly, honorably, an. lots of the rule of law unfold. put yourself for a nanosecond in a position, for a parent a child coming through what hunter biden is going through, difficult,di complicated, painful. >> happy to see one of thehe w present was asked about this, confidence in the judicial system, not going to undermine it. >> dana: whatever happens the w hatrial hunter biden has made oe thing for sure. the laptop is real, after getting entered as evidence in the comeaux truck, fox newso digital reach out to all 51 intellect -- officials whoian dismissed the laptop is russian disinformation and eithert declined to retract or even doubled down. want to get to that at some point by let's talk about the prosecution in this case, they e moved forward, hunter has one oe the best lawyers, abbey law and the thing is i think the defensf just has a lot of bad facts ont, their side. you can hire a lot of great lawyers but have bad facts, might not go your way.eani >> judge jeanine: if you have, bad facts it won't go your way. but if you have a judge who moves the case along and i found it interesting, the sound you just had aired, that this guy says he led the rule of law unfold, hunter biden is, it wonderful. it's not the biden's, if anything the biden's are the ones who wanted to bring this plea deal before a judge, was all right through it. while any crime that he commits, it was the judge that says you know what, have you ever done this before the department of justice and they say there is no precedent for it. it's really about at the judge, this case moved quickly and we're so used to judge marchant who had everything he could do to extend that trial so that donald trump's trial when on for six weeks from memorial day celebrations and meeting with the parents, i mean it meetingg with your family members during the memorial day weekend, but in this case, what you have is a case that is rocksolid. of the question is, this can be proven beyond a reasonable the doubt, weatherby nullification? will there's a jury saddled with the biden family, it looks like such a unified family, with jill with, buying, with the solo blank back and forth to be with her husband, you got in jail, wife, sisters, in james and his wife, it's likthe the biden's ae saying we are a powerful familyi we are all in the front row looking at you. which is why the prosecution's partly said, that way there is not evidence. but it's there., the question i do thequy want to convict. >> richard: a thing that is likely chance they will get the verdict,hard with the prosecutie leap although detailys where f hunter admits he didro crack cocaine,wher testimony from bobi biden's wife, his former girlfriend, that she was on that through the gun into the trashcan. we will have to see what happened here, those 12 jurors. it's important to remember there isn't a single american that will vote for hunter biden t-shirt, is no hunter biden bumper sticker or your designs, hunter biden is not an employee of the democratic national committee, an employee of the c white house, biden campaign.om he is a sun who we know wasou troubled at onble point in timei would still be troubled today. what we saw was a family saying once we had a troubled son andc want to support him in any wayl be can.de alsont heard from the presidenta over thet weekend that he willd not pardono his son and i do believe that is very true. we know from both the obama white house and the biden white house at this point is the did not take part of their political allies, the obama pardons, thert was nobody they knew. and nd wi think we see the samee in the biden administration. i think we will see justic served no matter what.t wa >> dana: on saturday -- yeah,.au [ laughter ] it ran on saturday but i did not waited until today, was on politico it was about hunter biden and business dealings basically, how could he not have used his dad's name, basically that's what it was saying. if you watch jesse watters primetime you know this. >> jesse: they charged with violations, conveniently left those charges out. i don't know about richard's analysis, i would say but was guilty or not guilty, there wila be challenges for the biden campaign. if it'allys guilty, partiallyde defends the line of attack that trump is a convicted felon it, partially because hunter is not e, ya running for president aboo just casually go and throw around that label against your opponent when the first son has the same label seems boneheadeda you get a nod to guilty, datai feeds into the trump i'm running against the rig to system. the way the situation did in the summer of 2016 where it was thrown out, deals to hillary's party favors. ane pad let her off with a slapn her wrist and just showed thatt trump was the victim of a rigged system and would be getting intn dc into the clean house.s this proves it is an auditokin guilty, there was home cooking and both of these trials, new york, democratic jury, legal black magic invented a crime and then convicted.a and then you have a delawareth jury do the same thing? this is basically black-and-white. both juries would thenivel be actively interfering in an election. and we don't like that at all. this is the weirdest trial ever because he have a first son on trial in a state where the president hailed from, had first lady in the first family showing up with kleenex weeping in front of the jury, the cia back ane sugar brother in there throwing money around. you have the head of the and doubly a showing phase, a film o crew filming a documentary making money off of this trial. but i below gets up and he'sup trying to say, this form, it's not english. the form clearly says, are you an unlawful user or addicted to r narcotics. albia saying that if you are aty user, the only meant are you using the day you filmed the form out. rbc that's not true. he saying it depends what the meaning of addicted as, theymeon have a summary testified, smoking crack every 20 minutes.. that of hunter biden'shy autobiography saying, he was an attic it's.eh he hasab gone to rehab 10 times. i don't know how you canothe describe addicted in any other way. then you haven ye this message g the widow,e i'm buying drugs fm mookieying and then today, i'm h on crack passed out in a car.in now abby is trying to say that he was lying on those text messages, it's a herculean effort we was he of the jury buys it. >> dana: greg, giving you the floor. if you alsflo want to comment on these. they had their jerseys on, are they taking them off. >> greg: might be a little person but i'm a big picture guy and the big picture here is hunter's taking it for the team. this is his punishment, hishi amends for his misdeeds.heat the goal is to keep the heat ofp a joke at the kickbacks, the big guy. it's a small sacrifice for hunter to make to take the fall which is what you do in crime families when misdeeds are far d bigger and more lucrative so what he's doing is he's deflecting it onto him. it's now joe, it's hunter. that's the point, to keep it off of joe. but like the judge said, the cases crack rock solid teemacng but i have to say, i'm startingh to really kind of like hunter. he makes me feel really goodi ha about myself. i had some wild nights in myo hu time, but i know hunter, maybe i might have petered my brother-in-law's shoes on his wedding night by didn't bank my brother's wife and got her hooked on crack. he puts everybody's shame in perspective, it's like when yout go to the gym when you're overweightn , you feel better if somebody else is there who is fatter than you are, that is why i train at sculptors jim.wh i want to get to the klopper sai thing, he said he had no regrets about a falsely labeling the laptop is rushing this information, and we know it's obvious. he has no regrets because he doesn't see it as a mistake. it's not what i thought it was fake and i'm wrong good, he meant to do this. it was deliberate, he created a false narrative because he was fighting the thread called the donald trump which everybody was saying at the time saying he was worse than hitler be make any attempt to stop him is illegal and immoral, doesn't matter because history will look back at him as a hero for trying to stop hitler. >> jesse: talking about theated family?th >> dana: where is she?gal >> greg: she was surprisedtory like the laptop. tal >> dana: an amazing, we do not go over time. we were good today! you going to keep up!e pro hamas agitators chanting as they wreak havoc of president biden 's a t door front door. 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[ ♪♪ ] [ bleep ].udge >> judge jeanine: pro hamas lunatics rating at biden's front door, thousands of anti- israel agitators chanting for jihad while wreaking havoc in front oh isthe white house this weekend. they set up smoke bombs, vandalized statues, road anti-rf somatic graffiti and pelted a park ranger during the chaos. one individual holding up a bloody facemask of joe biden. the jewish hatred playing out on the same d day as is reallyy defense forces heroically rescued four is really hostages who had been in hamas captivity since october 7th. senator tom cotton is calling onto the biden doj to investigate of the terror protests.e >> you have anti-american proma hamas lunatics defacins g andst desecrating the statueats of our great veterans, which is a plain a violation of law. joe biden's government allowed to happen and we will probably not se pe any arrests or prosecutions for violating that law.: >> judge jeanine: they nowi wi start with you, what tom cotton about is that dojag starting aain investigation against people who are pro- terror, pro hamas, one action wearing a hamas headbandba carrying around a bloodyw in facemask of joe biden. while waiting to the doj be involved in this kind of thing, death to america? >> dana: well, you can imagine somewhere else with a different type of people, it should have vebeen. people having some 2020 déjà vu. is only 71 at park police officers covering 890,000 persos protest, and they're not allowed to wear right gear? ano d wheat seed rated their, te police officer there, there throwing things at him, they arn assaulting him and nobody says anything, not a single person gets arrested? you basically have people waving terror flags, wearing masks, you cannot do that in the district of columbia. nobody does anything? the prosecutor, can rememberosec that guy's name, i can remember, the prosecutor much like alvin bragg, they're not prosecuting p the crimes happening at right there. there's isllin appalling a douba standard ow n basic questions of law and order. wit mentally have uaa situation whee people are very frustrated. i could not believe one charles cook said it, you went through all the different websites, newy websites, could not find any of this news. anywhere ns,. except for local nbc affiliates. no word, if some like this happens outside, one little tlthing.e it's on the news. one out this? the double standard makes my voice raised two octaves blood it's partly why think people are discussing this and it's a sign of things to come. if they can get away with this, what he think they can get away in chicago? >> judge jeanine: in addition saying biden should be arrestedl we got the guillotine, you know richard, these are people who are calling for a cease-fire and peace and yet they are with theg hamas headband and all the other thing is they are doing kind defacing statues. connecting to a revolutionary war, would help the u.s., help you as to feed the birds inwh 1781. when theerd y get off doing tha >> richard: allstate again,d, there's a clear bright line between people protesting andra throwing things at park rangers and defacing property period. it is unclear, we don't know ife the justice department isca involved becauseus it could bede investigations and we don't kno. that yet. i think that is a wonder think we have to point out. as it think while this iswe happening, on this protest is happening we also know under the ground in israel, benny gans ha, resigned from the war cabinetit which makes the situation a bit more tiny was, with benjamin netanyahu and th te reason why gantz resigned is because who's waiting on benjamin netanyahu to create a postwar plan and inh gaza andth he has not come up ws that plaitn which makes theha situation evenve more tenuous as you try to figure out how do we come to some sort of peaceful solution b. five d. think any of those protestersth know who ganz is?es >> richard: out argute e that is part of the problem, i want this conflict to come to an end it, or the hostages to be sent home and killing to stop in gaza. i think both of those things cas be true. a but it's less about what is happening and the united states and what is happening with the is really government and benjamin netanyahu. >> judge jeanine: greg, greg --'s before nobody cares about teemac got to the hostages gotso rescued, that's a story you came out with? >> judge jeanine: let me ask you the question, -- the captured seven hostages and eight months. 116 remaining. mea they think 41 are dead. 75 alive that we believe.ra didn't israel have the right to do what they need to to get toa those human beings back in a war that hamas started, and they are still holding out hostages with the is really hostages? >> richard: for my perspectives there's only one acceptable fact, once october 7th happened, it's none of your business. we can all agree that payback isbenc a badge -- believe me. he don't create of the terms, talked about it before, you can do all of these platitudes aboul never again, we stand with israel but if you do that in i good times, you will work less. it only matters ain't of the bad times, those outrage? were they killed 202 rescued four. have you ever come up with themr ideal number for that?ve have you y ever done to the mathematics teemacatic did youha maexpress outrage when hamasan killed over 1000 people? and everything you were told what hamas is true? t keeping hostagesru, in heavy populated areas? and still you don't care?yo u that tells you something about the protests. these are not organic. prthe a professional, they paid for and i find it interesting that nobody according to ourent president is above the law. a unless you m are in member of te left. somehow vandalism becomes s an expression of protest and speech. it's a weird, if you woke, words can be viewed as violence.on but then c violence and destruction can be defined as speech. you don't get arrested, wisey is want rage are permitted and any kind of mild protest isn't? think about go back one kid, all over the place. you couldn't find it anywhere. why did they do that? it's because they wanted sanctioned, in one is not. >> judge jeanine: the operation carried out makes it clear, one of the hostages, the female on the motorcycle. she said she was dressed in palestinian government so theym could removeon her from one houe to another which is so, if you haven't watched it. b but how does this rescueed operation, and showed it in any way impact the cease-fire discussions? b6 you will continue to have these ways to extract these hostagesex, but i'm glad you brought over the history earlier. of the statute that was desecrated was a general low shampoo, theof french sent him here during the revolutionary war and he was commanding about 7000 french expeditionary forces. he joinsorce forces with washinn and they go again and they seize the new york town, and then he joins forces ands the force of the surrender.wall this man is a hero, first send the statue kind of get us to the roosevelts administration, in bailey in lafayette park and joe biden is there in france while this statute is being disagreed? you don't arrest a single person the. >> judge jeanine: and also he invaded pickle boxes or is. [ laughter ] and >> jesse: what does it tellhe you about a country that does not protecint the crown jewels f its cultural and military history? what doen s it say if you allow his stature to be defiled?cher you probably don't cherish this beard of the country, like joe biden is wanting this campaign on defending democracy. without lafayette, defending democracy, we would not have a country. >> judge jeanine: the interestingg thing about this is these ar se rebels who are simpe creating anarchy, they don't know what they're doing, they, are just haters.bu coming up, some serious buyers remorse about joe biden. 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[ cheering and applause ] >> jesse: richard before weul get to you i would like to apologize to everybody in nevada and they sorry about that. glitch in my brain. so perfect and so many other ways. [ laughter ] go ahead richard, was going on in there. >> richard: i could sell you wan in alaska. it's on a focus on james for a second, been a lot of times since i've being talking with james cargo. he is a political operative thaf has been pretty unsuccessful inn the music history, in 2022 he picked a candidate in pennsylvania there was literall obliterated. 2020 he predicted that we would have the election by 10:00 in regard to those four days later. bur dat did me just say this. you know, when you really think about it.ha here's what we know to be true,n a quote that was about to the economy was stupid, that he dids get right.tud th other than that, you know, is political ability to protecti things is pretty awful.ay and i think when i say that i say this. c this aom come down to how peopla feel about the economy on election day when did they choose to vote or vote early. over the last couple of months we have seen record of job growth and the lowest and a plummet in history does not take away from the fact that we as a country are expanding record inflation.cords mo inflation numbers coming outthey this month, hopefully they will be take down. coming up with next month and the month after that before we have the election. that's howeopl i think people w vote ultimately. we'll have to wait to and see w that looks like. but if units are the biden campaign will have to talk about. making this economy work for the american people. >> jesse: heyear is not a perfe, nobody is. >> richard: he is awful. >> judge jeanine: come on! >> jesse: he talks for a lote bi of people because it and wanted joel waterman to be the nominee and thought he was too old for the job. >> judge jeanine: document van jones and the rest of them. t he ihes one of the top democratc operatives -- no, i think for more advanced. i won a fight with you richard. let me say what i want to say. truth is there has to be a reason that they keep propping up biden and the reason they keep robbing him up in spite of the fact that everybody is a naysayer about this fool. t the thichak of his lies, is a ft that they think joe biden, trump is going to beat him again. what they ignore is that joe biden in 2020 is a cognitive declined man it today. what they don't understand is in 2020 he had a basement campaign of what they don't understand is that the country is totally different. dif there is dissent in americaen while joe biden has been president. we have the ability to impair trump and biden and theng americans are saying i, ice to e able to buy eggs and gas and go on vacation or whatever when trump was president, and now it don't have any of those opportunities. and finally,nall if you listen o that sound on those hoteltr workers, donald trumump is as ya know whadat i'm in nevada, whati want to do is i want to promote no tax on tips.d and yoyou know what the culinary union comes out with? c they comome out and they say basically, you know, they rather object to the tax-free tips and tell everybody to vote for biden and that trump is full of it.ng look, the democrats have't o nothing. you don't have p theol policy because they don't have anything. a sudden going to mountunt sinai, guarded the power to bein able to change immigration. the guy is just not a credible guy anymore. >> richard: gg. >> greg: like how the media calls eight tall tales, like joe is some village and -- valent storyteller entertaining the town folk of tales of fighting mysterious woodland creatures anood turnindlg cows milk into liquid gold. meanwhile trumps salesmao lin f- page is a existential threat. but joe'uts tales unlike j trums are not harmless. trump, when he's talking aboutre something whether he exaggeratea or not or directionally true -- joe's are figment of a chaotic imagination. and adamant braiicn, it could be dismissed, like the town fool but not when it's the leader of the free world. i'm reminded of how many times that the media democraticou complex woulldd often comparedta trump to a mob boss by the way he talks. you gotta ge t rid of these people. anyways, consider how biden's defenders portray joe. that he is a basketcase in public, but behind the scenes, oh, you watch, use as a tribe is attack. this is never happened into the history of the human world. is no human behavior like that. and those who they had a criminal familymac a mob boss evading arrest, or standing trial by pretending to be mentally ill in public. the chain figment mental illness for decades to avoid prison. he would chat with parking meters and urinate in public. does that not sound familiar? joe is truly sharp as a tack, may be be could listen to those takes, or maybe it's just an act >> richard: are you with her? >> dana: i wanted to make those t-shirts. i can't remember which headline it was but the talked about biden's yarns. >> greg: yes, yarns! >> dana: do member the new york times, they had a big thing where they had a big announcement that it is going to be, okay,, that trump is a liar. they put that on the front page of the paper but biden tells yawns, of course,, want to mention something about the age thing, human for last week the wall street journal said joe biden has been in private meetings as having a hard time connecting the dots. and the white house press office they just said every sort of reinforcement, and the reaction was so over-the-top, and they were so mad about this story, and you think where is the anger for people about like understanding of the border issue or inflation or immigration? where is that? that empathy? any don't see it. it's only when they think he will get nailed in the election because people think he is too old. after that story ran, i think i said, i believe i did, it was see the press hurting to this way and all of them will start writing it and people have permission now to say where they are thinking. in the atlantic back with his speech today about biden's decision to run at the age of 81. it warning if you print this article out he will have to bite toner because it's along. this is the paragraph that matters, the unwillingness or inability of democrats to stop by and remains in existentially risky cat potentially disastrous proposition. if biden loses in november, that is all anybody will remember him before. and that is how i ended. [ laughter ] >> jesse: telling me james cargill watching the shows as how many presidential elections as richard fowler one? [ laughter ] ahead, california getting up, taxpayer hotels with eight june, café and an art studio. 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's been $25 billion on homeless populations increasing 30 percent. they spent $33 billion on 800 miles of high-speed rail in california, 15 years later richard, you know how many miles he put down? 1600 feet. there is no way the government can solve these problems, you cannot even exit gate. look at obama care, member how great that was supposed to be? 60 percent richard. 60 percent. how are the $7 billion an electric car charging stations? seven. richard. seven. you cannot expect the government to come in and solve homelessness, will never happen. >> richard: of the rent is too high in california, to hide across the country. i think we solve homelessness? >> dana: you build all sorts of houses, figure out of the permitting, clear out to the regulations on -- that are ridiculous. giving away free stuff we know how this ends, we know how it ends. it always ends the same away. it is not work. what works is a discipline, purpose, accountability and self-reliance. that is how you pull yourself up and start to succeed. look what is happening in california, $250,000 and woke kindergarten, than they were surprised that they leave kindergarten none of them can read or say the alphabet. we not doing a good and a job figuring out how to help people like that let alone, we don't want to raise a generation of people that are going to have to go to the free food market. that is preposterous decision for a society to make. >> greg: $600,000 for an apartment, 258 studio apartments, how would you feel hearing that if you were a hard-working blue-collar american in a white black, hispanic, male or female? you would feel you're being demoted. you matter less than you saw in this country, you not as valued as a citizen as of those people who do things the wrong way. of the people who get things for free without doing anything, people who take advantage of the hard-working citizens, will pay their rent, would save up for mortgages, pay your taxes. the message of the democratic party is that with the right away, you will be demoted. don't do it at the right way, we got you, whether you're a minority construction worker in a legal stream, whether you're an illegal immigrant waiting in line following the rules and get people cut in line or asylum, they are of criminals who control, horror loud breaks every time they are arrested. never in prison for mcafee moth-eaten who loses or is beaten by a man was as he is a girl. in every situation, that person is demoted. you vote democratic, they put the dam and demoted. >> dana: and demented. >> richard: coming up, out-of-control bullet jumps over the fence and into the crowd back the fastest! is up next. 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[ ♪♪ ] >> greg: and welcome back, this isn't your typical day at the radio. shocking video capturing the moment of wild bull goes rogue and leaps over the forest -- fence, watch. [ ♪♪ ] >> dana: wow! >> greg: 14 people were killed. >> judge jeanine: know they were not! >> richard: three injuries, they say music soothes the savage beast but i guess animals hate country music. >> dana: i think he was quite moved by the song they are, and decided to keep on going. i have not been to a lot of have been to a lot of rodeos, never seen anything like that in prison. it's remarkable everybody is okay. >> greg: his name is party bus and it's true! you know jesse this makes me think, when somebody is about to undertake a difficult task they would say it's on my first rodeo, they say that? what if you were in the rodeo, would you say this is not my first accounting job? >> jesse: i don't know but it looks like this was their first rodeo. who builds a wall that low? >> greg: build a wall you say? [ laughter ] >> dana: perley nobody builds a wall jesse. >> jesse: the wall is too low or this thing is like the michael jordan a bowls. >> greg: yes. >> greg: you have been to rodeo drive. what to say you about this rodeo? >> judge jeanine: advent a lot of rodeos as well greg, take it that. this bowl was a democrat. he identified as at gazelle. and as a party bus, that's his name? he picked up five people on the bus. get it,. >> greg: nicely done. richard, d. go to rodeos? >> richard: and no. >> greg: no? >> richard: that is why. [ laughter ] >> greg: always a small risk. >> richard: put me into those bleachers. >> greg: "one more thing" is up next. 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no dana: d. >> well, he's got something, but it ain't a laptop. all right. >> jesse, did you know, dana, that it was illegal to get in your helicopter and shoot fireworks at your lamborghini? >> i had no idea. it is in nevad your laa. it is absolutely illegal. and now alex choi is doing donuts in the desert there as he gets pelted with fireworks intentionallyd ff is facing ten years in federal prison. >> what' s he doing free alex choi? i mean, i don't know. i can't vouch for the guy, but it just seems like he was having a little good old, friendly old fun. >> this is what happens when you don't have a drug habit in you't havr rich. tonight, jesse watters, primetime. johnny went to the puerto rican day parade. >> he was a sneak peek. >>e biden says he's puerto rican. oh, renaissance. when no way he can be his best in this country. >> no way, jose. >> judge. okay, who knew a tri>> dana:p te eye doctor could be so adorable. check out these penguin who took time out of their busy days for their routine eye exams as penguins age cataracts and other eye conditions can affect their vision, just like humans. so it's important that these impo get checked. and i'm on the ingram mangle tonight. all right. and, richard, thistonight. 100 and two-year-old, 102 year old vet world war ii vet is retiring fromfrom being a crossing guard. he's also a postal worker. his name is tom bessette. he lives in greensboro, northwate carolina, 3630, just across fromr day! and that's it for us. have a great night. welcome to jesse wattersni primetime tonight. >> what is deal here and comghte to think about joe biden's advantage. eep ]. whatever we do, the left says off with biden's head. >> son of
thank you for watching, while we were just talking about this summer's o olympics it is also worth noting that just minutes from now we will officially be two years out from the fifa world cup which will take place here in the u.s. after 30 years and you're in luck. get your count down clock started now. and on that note i wish you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks at nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. i'll see you at the end of tomorrow. thank you for joining us this hour. really happy to have you here. we have an interesting show for you tonight. i'm particularly glad you're here for us. we're going to start a ways back as we sometimes do. when allied soldiers came ashore on the coast of france on the beaches of normandy for the d day invasion. they opened up new western front against the nazis in europe. and that of course was a shock to the germans right. this, the operation overlore, the d day invasion it relied on the element of surprise. and the germans really were shocked. they had been occupying france for four years at that point. they had installed a collaborationist regime that they fashioned from nazi forces inside france. the collaborationists and the nazis together were ruling france and they had been for years. there was a french resistance to the nazis but the nazis and their puppets were definitely in charge. they were actually heading into year five of being in charge. they were really settled in in france. and then here comes this shock arrival. this invasion, hundreds of thousands ultimately millions of ally troops landing on the beaches and the cliffs or the northwest of france and they are clearly planning to take it all back. the d day invasion, the allied invasion started on june 6th. now on this date, on june 10th, 1944 just four days into the d day invasion, the germans were reacting. they had been of course shocked by the initial invasion. but a few days into it they now realize the scale of what they were up against and they had started scrambling their units from all over france. turning all the available german troops in france toward the northwest of that country to try to stop the allied advance. and that included a nazi assess panser division that had been in the south of france down by toulousse. that division was ordered to essentially traverse south of the country and toward the beaches of normandy. and on their way north through france toward the new allied front lines the new western front, this panser division stopped in a village called orador, pronazi french collaborators had told them. they told this panser unit that the french resistance was active many this town and told them that the french resistance had killed a nazi officer. and in response that panser unit that yes they were on the way to go join the new western fronts and the battle for the whole war, right. to try to shore up the german lines against the big allied invasion but they decided that on the way they would stop and destroy that village and everyone in it. they rounded up every woman, and child in that village. they even rounded up people who did not live in the village but who were near by or had the misfortune of passing through the village when the nazi unit made this decision. that nazi unit killed every human being in orador or everyone they could find. they killed 643 civilians a vast majority of them women and children. they used machine guns and they burned them alive. they looted the entire village and then they tore down the village as best they could, they razed it. orador. this is what it looks like today. still in ruins. the french decided after the war they would never rebuild. they would leave the ruins, preserve them as they were left at the end of the war as a memorial to what the nazis did. and we have these photos of what orador looks like today. literally today because this morning the president of france and the president of germany visited the ruins at orador to commemorate what they called the martyrdom. now this is not the first time that french president emmanuel macron has visited orador. 10 days before he was first elected president he went there. he visited the village, just before he was elected president. he visited in the company of the man who was then the last living survivor of that massacre. i said the nazis killed everyone in the village. at least everyone they could find. the nazis kill over 600 civilians that day but there were about half a dozen people from the village who against all odds in a miracle managed to survive. the last one of the survivors was in his 90s when he brought emmanuel macron to orador. that last survivor has since died. but today macron went back to the site to orador to show this place to germany's president. now, in 1944 about six month, after orador happened, the germans were still hanging on. but thanks in large part to the d day invasion they knew by the end of 1944 that they were losing. they were losing to soviet forces in the east for sure. they were also simultaneously losing to the allied forces coming in from the west. once the allies opened that new western front with the d day invasion, they started pressing their advantage against the nazis ever where. they're not only liberating france. they're pressing toward germany itself. hitler knows they cannot sustain the losses they're taking on both the eastern and western fronts. so about six months app after d day. hitler decides he's going to form a huge counter offensive against the allies. the allies are closing in on germany's own borders. when hitler musters hundreds of thousands of men to mount a counter offensive against them in the forests of belgium, it absolutely is a surprise to the allies. nobody thought germany still had them in them. a lot of people thought that the war would be done by christmas that year. where did the germans muster 4,000, 5,000 men to counter this offensive but they did. that began a 6 week battle, that would become the biggest counter of the war. as far as that brutal war of that battle. that was the battle of the bulge. that battle also came with its own astonishing and unforgettable atrocity. it was another panser unit much like the one in orador. they ended up in the very outset of that surprise german counter offensive. they ended up ambushing a bunch of americans. the result was they took custody of a large group of american prisoners of war. unarmed american pows. and these pows they again they had surrendered, they had no weapons. the nazis lined up those americans on a field. they are pows, they had surrendered, had no weapons. but the nazis just massacred them on that field. and just like in orador is the fact that there were somehow miraculously some survivors. there were some american gis who had also been lined up on that field who nevertheless lived. americans gi who played dead, who hid under the dead bodies of their comrades. who managed in the end to drag themselves into the woods to get away. and what happened to them? you will not believe me when i tell you this but it would not be long before a sitting united states senator would vehemently object to them giving testimony of what they saw, to what happened to their platoon men. the other pows who were massacred by the nazis. a sitting u.s. senator tried to block those veterans from testifying. he said the american people shouldn't hear it. he said it would be inflammatory, it would inflame the americans against those nazis who killed the american pows. i find it absolutely insane to think about but this became a very strange thing in american domestic politics. i mean, there were unrepenitent left over nazis. they were trying to make americans the real bad guys. when you think about unrepenitent nazis who just lost the war. the thing that you wouldn't believe is that they enlisted a lot of americans to help them in that project. including taking a stand against the american soldiers who survived that pow massacre and demanding that the nazis who did it should be set free. this became a cause seleb in the right wing at the time. it helped launch the national career, the rocket ship ascendants of arguably the most radical figure in the last 80 years before donald trump. while he was swimming in these very dark waters. darker than seems possible in mainstream american politics he would go on to lead a movement of millions of followers who were increasingly radicalized by his increasingly radical rhetoric and tactics over time. his fellow republicans were both repelled by him, horrified by him. while they also wanted in on some of the massive political energy and fanatical devotion that he attracted. they thought very seriously about putting him forward for the presidency. and the reaction among close observers of him and his tactics looked so much like what you are seeing in the american press today about the fear of a second trump term you wouldn't believe it isn't just a straight up rerun. in his time the people who stood up against him, mostly got mowed down in politics by the strength of his fanatical following. that happened for a very long time. until eventually ultimately it stopped happening and the forces against him prevailed. and i'm telling you this for two reasons. number one, this is the thing that i have been working on for the past year. my podcast rachel maddow presents ultra is out today. you can get it any where you get podcasts. if you don't usually listen to podcast you don't know how to do that. if you open your phone right now, open the camera, you click on the little box that pops up on your phone, it will bring you right there so you can listen to it. you can listen to it for free. it's free to listen to. there are eight episodes of this all together. episode one is out today. i hope you will want to listen. i've been working very hard on it. i'm very proud of it but i just, i hope you like it. i hope you will check it out. so that's one of the reasons i'm telling you this story. i have been working on this story. i had been working in general on stories about other times in our american history that we have dealt with really terrible threats to the country. where we have confronted really radical people with really radical refine who get into political power and attract large followings. this has happened to us before. the reason i've been working on this for the last couple of years including this new one that launches today, for me, i feel like i really need to learn this stuff and fast. for me there is a real urgency to learn these stories now. from when we have contended with terrible challenges before. particularly what we're talking about powerful americans, advocating for athoriatism. when it's about selling lies to the american public. and half is mortified by that but the other half of the public are super energized by it. they not only believe these lies they kind of become the new reason for them to live. the public gets gets like that, into earth one and earth two. and that place takes radicalizing them and it takes over their lives. we are living through a moment like that right now with what is ascendant at the american life. but we've lived through this before. i feel i'm racing to learn these stories about american who is have fought these kinds of fights before us for the simple reason that i feel like, i need their ideas about how to fight it. we need their ideas about how to fight these things. we need to see what worked and what didn't when americans faced threats like this before. and it doesn't mean that fighting them always works. sometimes they get away with a lot of this stuff and sometimes people take on incredible risk and danger to themselves. sometimes people risk their lives or give up their lives to fight these things but knowing the track records of americans who have stood up against these kinds of dark and authoritarian forces. knowing who else has tried it and what happened to them is helpful to us calibrating our available responses now and knowing what to expect when we confront these dark movements. so that is why i've been working on this. and that is why that story is on my mind. tonight. but it is also what's on the news right now. i mean one of the remarkable things about seeing the french president with the german president at the ruins of orador today in france is they took that tour of the ruins of that village today. that preserved memorial to what fascism did in europe. they took that tour this morning. just one day after the german far right and the french far right won shockingly large proportions of the vote in the european elections that were held yesterday. in both of those countries the parties that did so well have ties not only to the old fascist parties of world war ii era germany and france but they both have tied to putin and russia. when president biden was in france, he and president macron agreed on a new plan to seize russian assets in the g7 countries and use those seized russian assets to provide more support to ukraine as ukraine continues to struggle against the russian invasion of that country. president biden is just back from france for these d day commemoration ceremonies. he heads back to europe the day after tomorrow to go to the g7 summit. among other things presumably to try to rally the other g7 nations to support this new plan. to support ukraine as much as possible including this new plan that he and macron have just agreed to involving seizing russian assets to help ukraine even more. and you know, in the american aperture here what's going on here in our politics while president biden is trying to you know rally the free world trying to strengthen our alliances as much as possible to lead collective international will, against a rogue dictatorship that has invaded one big european country already and has its sights set on more. here at home, literally while president biden and other american leaders were headed off to europe for the 80th anniversary of d day, while they were heading off to europe for that, what was happening in the american congress? a fifth of the republicans in congress just voted that we should leave our allies all together. that we should break up the big western alliance. that we should defund nato. and i think nobody really paid attention to this vote because this legislation was put forward by a very fringe member of congress. a member of congress who is known for her publicity stunts and she is therefor, i am eager, she is easy to ignore. but it wasn't just her. 47 republicans voted for this thing. a fifth of the republicans in congress last week voted to defund nato. don't just forget being the leader of the free world forget the whole idea of there being a free world at all. they saved that for the anniversary of d day. 46 republicans voting to defund nato. and as radical as that may seem, particularly when you think about where nato came from and why. the wing of the republican party that is pushing for this stuff, i mean on its face it seems unlikely that they would have such sway. right every few days we get a new mug shot of one of their leading lights because so many of them have been charged with crimes. today, it was their presidential candidates personal lawyer. who has had his law license suspended, who is under indictment rudy giuliani's mug shot just released today after he was arraigned in arizona. you can put it up on the wall with all the other maga republican mug shots we have accrued in the past year. their presidential candidate is a convicted felon. today he had to meet with his probation officer. people in his rallies not only fly t-shirts and fly flags that have his mug shot on them. they started carrying signs and wear shirts that say they are proudly voting for the convicted felon. at a rally this weekend, their presidential candidate described members of the mob of his supporters who physically attacked congress an injured dozens of police officers he described them in a speech this weekend as quote warriors. his warriors. people who took part in that mob attack on congress. his warriors. while a few days ago, two police officers who were both badly injured fighting hand to hand with that mob to defend congress, to defend the u.s. capital, those two police officers were jeered and booed by the republicans. they jeered them, turned their backs on them and walked out. these are two officers who were injured in that fight. they were literally injured defending our congress. but the republicans who jeered at them and turned their backs on them and walked out they want the attackers freed and they don't want to hear what these survivors of the attack had to say. they don't want to hear from the survivors and the witnesses they want the attackers set free. we are going through some weird stuff right now. but we have gone through weird stuff before. and i do think that we can learn from it and that we urgently need to. that's why i've been working on all these projects. that's why i have this new podcast out and i hope you listen to it. it wasn't from the recent past, when we got donald trump in the white house in the first place. you may remember what proceeded. our shock presidential election result in 2016 was proceeded that year by some shocking and surprisingly right wing election results in europe. including the brexit vote which happened just months app -- months after trump's presidential win. was it right to see right wing election results in europe as a harbinger of what was happening to us in 2016. as biden has back to back trips to europe. he just got back to europe. he heads back to europe again on wednesday. do the election results from europe right now, this weekend have hallmarks that tell us anything about what to expect here and about how weird this is all going to get? president biden clearly sees our connections to europe right now as absolutely key to the future of the world. just what's going on in the european politics right now tell us anything to expect about the future of our world here? joining us now is ben rhodes. he's cohost of the pod save the world podcast. ben it's really great to see you. thanks for making time to be here tonight. >> good to see you. >> first, let me just ask you, for some of our viewers who may not have paid close attention to what was happening in the european elections this weekend. let me ask you two questions about them. do you think they are important for us to pay attention to, and can you give us a rough characterization of what happened in those elections? >> sure, these are elections for the european parliament. so the european union wide parliament. it's the only election that takes place every few years in which all of europe votes. so it's a good barometer of where opinion is in europe. i think the two headlines are, the far right made noticeable gains in the two largest countries in europe. france and germany. and france the national front party which is the far right party that used to be on the fringes of french politics, emerged as by far the largest vote getter in this election and just build on, what you were saying, rachel, this is a party that is far right they got a $10 million loan from russia in the last decade. this is reality. and in germany, the afd party which has ties that go back to the neonazi germany. they got 15% of the vote. not a huge total but very alarming given the source here. i want to be clear in other parts of europe, the center did hold. but the two most important countries france and germany we saw these far right gains. >> do you think that it's right to look back at 2016 to see some of what was going on in europe as a harbinger for the shocking election result we got in 2016 when trump won. do you think these election results should be read as a harbinger of what's coming down the pipeline for us this year? >> i absolutely do, rachel. the commonality about the brixit vote and the trump election was that it was a lot, it was a surprise. people did not think that brexit was going to win that campaign and they campaigned on a right wing populous message. the slogan was take back control. and they ran against globalists and liberal elites and against immigration and was very trumpy in its message. it kind of forshadowed what we ended up taling with in the fall. the warning in this election and you asked me a question to talk about my book a few years ago about far right parties and their commonalities around the world. you asked me what lesson should we learn. i always think about that. the lesson i take from this is there are incumbent parties in europe and france that have defended the status quo. emmanuel macron has been a defendant of the liberal union. people are not listening to that message right now. you cannot defeat these parties. these populous by beating the status quo. that's hard for the united states. but you have to tap into people's disfraction with globalization. dissatisfaction with inequality. that things are slipping out of control. it's not enough to say, we're the responsible adults you have to get down and have a message for how things are going change. i think that's the warning sign joe biden should hear. not enough to run on status quo. not enough to defend even things we think are very important. you have to meet people where they are and people are frustrated. >> ben rhodes former deputy national security advisor to president obama. ben, thank you for making the time. i feel like, when we need to like widen the lens a lot and look at america in the world, you're almost always one of the first people i think about on these things. thank you for being here. >> i can't wait for you to check out the podcast too, it sounds great. >> i appreciate it. thank you. >> we have much more ahead here tonight, 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of its republican members was ousted last month one of its republican members was ousted after trump reportedly spent months calling georgia republicans insisting that that election board member had to go. because that person was not backing trump's lies about the 2020 election. and so of course the guy had to go. trump's personal involvement in remaking the georgia state elections board, is just one of the revelations in new reporting from rolling stone. their new piece is headlined georgia is our laboratory. inside trump's plan to rig 2024. it details how trump's allies are working to make sure there will not be a straightforward election result in georgia this year. given georgia's status. what is happening there, what is happening to stop what is happening there. one of the reporters on that rolling stones piece joins us here next. stay with us. this soil will blow you away. it's the martha stewart of soil. when i was diagnosed with h-i-v, i didn't know who i would be. but here i 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reelected by the voters of the state by a larger margin than any other, excuse me. >> order, order. >> by a larger margin than any other statewide office. the voters. >> order, order. >> have demonstrated their faith and therefor i do not believe that at present we have the authority to oversee or investigate the secretary of state. >> when georgia's board of elections the lone democrat on that elections vote spoke out against doing this unprecedented investigation of rathenburger. she was loudly shouted down? in a new article titled georgia is our laboratory. inside trump's plan to rig 2024, rolling stone says this, they have been shaping electoral processes to his benefit. maga die-hards are intimidating officials and ousting election officials who haven't been initiated into the cult of trump. georgia is the sole battleground state where the republican party has total control over power. have wielded that advantage in a crusade to convert, discredited election conspiracy theories into policies. well ahead of election day 2024. it's an alarmingly experiment that trump planned and much of the republican party hope to take national. joinening -- joining us now is donald rolsing. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> so what are the steps trump has taken to take the electoral of georgia. >> one of the most disturbing one. who an attorney, a republican attorney they are planning to challenge the electoral results regardless of the result. we think of, the threat to elections from trump's behavior in to 2020 as only occurring in the event that trump loses. at the current state polling, trump is ahead in polling. if you believe the polling. but what they told us is that quote, you can't let the left get away with this cheating just because it didn't succeed you know air qualities around cheating. and the plan is to, challenge the results regardless of the outcome. the intent behind that is essentially a permanent delitimazation. heads you win, heads i lose. one of the things people should be paying close attention to is that refusal to certify in the fulton county board of elections in the presidential primary: because one of the things that's very, very notable about that is that the attorneys who filed that lawsuit work for america first policies institute. which is a very trumpy organization filled with former trump folks. and what you see in those type of processes is the legal january 6th in miniature. you're taking someone who is you know, acting beyond their brief and trying to essentially insert themselves into the counting and you know assessment of vote tallies. >> adam, is this actually a fight in georgia? you note, i think importantly that georgia is a place where republicans control all of the levers of power. we just played a the sound of the state elections board getting shouted down when she objected to what they were trying to do in terms of targeting rafensburger. is this fight joined where there's push back against what they're doing. or are they essentially running the table by changing processes to their own benefit. >> they definitely have quite a built in advantage. and i think that's why georgia, you know relative to other battleground states is particularly interesting because it is more so than perhaps any other state a fight for the sole republican party es -- especially when it comes to their sole. yeah in fact, kemp which was in the way of trump. kemp signed procedural jim crow of the 20th century. even folk who is have proven themselves to be obstacle to some of the most overt processes of it sometimes just go along to get along. it definitely does have an advantage and they are running the table in certain ways but you see folks like ed lyndsey who's resignation letter we obtained in the story. people like that you still do have these kind of principal republicans who are willing to stand up for what they believe in. as you see ed had resigned from a great deal of pressure 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that he was less than 24 hours away from his first meeting with his new york state probation officer. that meeting could be particularly nervewracking for him because one of the things a probation officer asks you after you're convicted of felonies is if you've been associating with anyone who has a criminal record. that's worth noting because if he is ultimately sentenced to probation next month, while he's on probation he will not be allowed to associate with anyone with a criminal record and for a lot of people that wouldn't be a big deal but for him that's a big deal. that particular restriction eats away at a lot of his social circle. so maybe that was all distracting him. i don't know. he maybe had a lot, i don't know. whatever the reason, he decided to venture into new territory in his campaign speech yesterday, with less than 5 months out he decided what the landlocked citizens of las vegas needed to hear about from him in order to be persuaded to vote for him was his fear of boats. heavy boats. boats with batteries near sharks. you know nevada sharks. i know you have heard that this happen happened. i know you may have scrolled past it. have you actually watched it like uncut, straight through, just watched it unfold. it is very much worth watching. it's astonishing. my favorite part is the people you can see at the rally behind him who are really trying to follow along but who clearly have no earthly idea what uncle ramblestander is on about. just watch this. >> what would happen if the boat sank from the sway and you're in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now under water and there's a shark that's approximately 10 yards over there. by the way a lot of shark attacks lately. did you notice that. a lot of sharks. i watched a guy justifying them. they really weren't that angry. they bit off the young lady's leg because they weren't hungry but they misunder who -- misunderstood who she was. there's nothing wrong with sharks. so there's a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards, or here, do i get electrocuted if the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery. do i stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted or to i jump over by the shark. because he didn't phroep know the answer. he said, nobody has asked me that question. i said you know i think there's a lot of electric current going through that water. i'll take the electricution every single time. >> so we're going end that. we're going to end it for boats. vote accordingly. to show him he's #1. etsy has it. 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