still working on this project, and what is the role of the fbi? a lot of questions for us to understand how the president was compromised. what are the risk to our country as a result of the president being compromised? kim, what i was struck by was the bullying tactic of the president. it was almost like al capone. he better not go he doesn t have any authority in the institution over this guy mueller. he has no right to tell him what to say. i think he is scared, because robert mueller, if he could speak freely could really powerfully criticize the president in a way that almost no one else can. this is a life-long republican, chris. he volunteered for the vietnam war when donald trump was in studio 54, who led the fbi after 9/11. and what he didn t do in his report, he said there was no conspiracy, no crime that he could prove, but he didn t pass moral judgment on the trump campaign s flirtation with the russians. he didn t say you know what? this is a terrible idea thif th
rudy giuliani said he twisted the judge s words somewhat to suggest he was punishing robert mueller s team for overreach, that mueller s team suggested a stiffer sentence for manafort, the fact the judge only gave him four years was proof that the special counsel was out of bounds. and clearly trying to sort of lay that groundwork to make a similar claim for whenever the mueller report is finally released and the white house has to deal with that. seems to me last night the judge was saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend. i don t like this guy mueller, i m going to reward manafort. anyway, let me go to natasha on a larger political question here. a pardon, if there is one anytime, it s politics. whether it s jack johnson or anybody your pardoning or richard nixon, it s always politics. is it easier or harder for trump, the politician, to pardon manafort now that he got light sentence?
he s committed white collar krum. a very easy argument to sell. anyway, in doing it secretly. mueller s prosecutors said yesterday that manafort did not fully cooperate, saying quote he told us things we already knew. he did not provide valuable information or cooperation. and it s providing speculation. trump attorney rudy giuliani tells nbc news a pardon isn t being considered at this time. he s not ruling one in or out. when asked about a pardon earlier today, trump also side stepped. i don t even discuss it. the only one discussing it is you. take a big bite out of this apple.
putting outmistruths and pray apau upon members of the american public and when handed something like this yesterday the president is giuliani have really seized on it to take a swipe at the special counsel. rudy giuliani said he twisted them somewhat to suggest he was punishing robert mueller s team for over reach. they had suggested a much stiffer sentence for manafort. the fact the judge only gave him four years, in giuliani s estimation was proof that the special counsel was out of bounds. so when the report is release can it seems to me the judge was saying the enemy of the enemy is my friend. i don t like this guy mueller,
seized upon in the political sphere to go after particular people in part of this investigation. let me give you one angle here that nobody s talking about about that barr exchange, and that is when jeff sessions was there, the president could claim there s one guy mueller with a bunch of random democrats running an investigation. this is a comey moment. you fire comey, you get mueller. you dump sessions because sessions isn t involved in the investigation, you can t say my nominee is overseeing the investigation. you get barr who just basically said when i see this stuff, i m going to bring a hammer down. i m going to tell you, barr will be one of the most significant appointees the president has ever made, because barr, i suspect, is going to crush the administration. the president s going to say, i never saw that one coming. but, phil, one of the reasons that i think we need to pump the brakes on the buzz feed reporting just for a moment is because all the corroborating evidence