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were traveling in. >> bill: they pulled the u.s. citizens from the wreckage of the vehicle and toss them to a truck bed and havent been seen since. >> dana: they were driving a white minivan with north carolina plates. you can see it is riddled with bullet holes. >> the group is said to be in mexico. one could have cosmetic surgery. they believe cartel members have mistaken them for drug smugglers. >> dana: the white house is working with mexico to bring them home. according to bill ba...

of carpets that need cleaning today. weird. it is weird how even that holiday is considered divisive these days. and not even by britts whose limey we kicked, right? i wasnt even born. i wasnt born and i take credit for it. but its americans who dont like it. its like only one half of the country gets to enjoy july 4th while the other half trashes, which is fine. if you want to make july for the right wing holiday, we will take it. add james bond birthday. by the way, happy 109. he was...

Columbus, ohio. lets get right to our fabulous panel. ana marie cox is here with us in new york. richard wolffe is vice president and executive editor of msnbc.com and joy reed. joy, this has been going on for six years. were still trying to understand who mitt romney is. weve employed psychologists, nobody knows. do you know who he is? >> hes the guy opening for the marshall tucker band in ohio. what ive come to the conclusion of is mitt romney is who he said he is. hes a businessman. i believe...