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>> well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i have put out, and thats the budget plan that were going to run on. >> and again this sunday romney had to distance himself from ryans positions and assert that hes the man at the top of the ticket. lets listen. >> the presidents cutting $716 billion from current medicare. i disagree with that. id put those dollars back into medicare. >> mr. ryan has proposed something similar, almost precisely the same number, 716. >> he was going to use that m...

From it. i agree, its a line thats been used before. its a line thats been drawn before, but it turns out not to work politically. >> i want to get to something that really is wild. by the way, here it is again, well get to this first. in the first interview romney and ryan gave after ryan joined the ticket, bob schieffer pointed out ryan budget plan, including his plan to voucherize, thats a great word, medicare, could be trouble for romney. lets listen. >> theres no question your campaign has ...

They were hoping to drive him out and get a better candidate. but they still want to bomb her with money. >> the part of it that is striking is you hear so many calls for democrats to distance themselves from the most random people. this is the guy running for the party seat and he is showing a flare and a commitment that should outrage people. >> what else did you know? todd aiken wants to end federal student loans too. calls them a cancer. these adds and claire mccas kill has one that is simil...

With money. >> the part of it that is striking is you hear so many calls for democrats to distance themselves from the most random people. this is the guy running for the party seat and he is showing a flare and a commitment that should outrage people. >> what else did you know? todd aiken wants to end federal student loans too. calls them a cancer.

He just methodically went through it all. i have to say my favorite line from his speech was about balancing budgets. its based on arithmetic. you may not know this, chris, but i was a math major, a double major in math and government. i get it. we have to make things add up if were going to get our economy back on track, start creating jobs and attack our deficit. >> lets take a look at this. in the midst of mitt romneys 47% fallout, what people found out what he really thought in a room that c...

In fact mitt ryan -- zoo excuse me, mitt romney was -- >> just call him the stench. >> asking him about the $716 billion in medicare cuts that the paul ryan plan would put into effect one of the more controversial portions of it. mitt romney backtracked and said, im the guy running for president, not him. i think that in a nutshell sums up the predictment of paul ryan. he cant play to his strengths. >> is it time for more republicans to stand upwind of mitt romney? >> look i think with 41 days -...

>> he gave an amazing speech. and what was really important about it is just matter of factually walking through the allegations that have been raised, coming back with responses. i mean, theres been so much misleading information, especially from the right wing super pacs and special interests. he just methodically went through it all. i have to say my favorite line from his speech was about balancing budgets. its based on arithmetic. you may not know this, chris, but i was a math major, a doub...

Romney/ryan. romney/ryan. romney/ryan, there we go. thats great. thank you. >> the already weird interpersonal dynamics on the republican ticket reached a possible dezooe knit of awkwardness yesterday as governor romney campaigned with his running mate. as with all complex relationships it wasnt always like this. square jauds and earn had nest as a 1950s sitcom star he sounded like a lost member of the romney tribe. with ryan drawing crowds the alpha dog appears to be getting tired of reminding ...

It was bill clinton. what effect do you think bill clinton had on talking about peoples challenges and what the presidents faced in office? >> he gave an amazing speech. and what was really important about it is just matter of factually walking through the allegations that have been raised, coming back with responses. i mean, theres been so much misleading information, especially from the right wing super pacs and special interests. he just methodically went through it all. i have to say my favo...

>> bret: i dont want to jump on -- >> until this year. no longer is. >> bret: since were face the face i dont want to jump on the panel. >> this is why personal meetings are useful. back and forth, bickering, quarreling. >> bret: frank conversation. >> its shocking. i remember serving in first president bushs administration in 92. he spent three or four days of the general esemiably and the election deal, but we were going down the meetings. he thought it was important. at the end of the gulf wa...