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Why didnt you do this or do that? he asks the questions he thinks can get decent answers for and that will educate the people. and that will hold people accountable. i think thats the secret to his success. we need more people on television who look like theyre fighting for the average guy versus for the gop or democrats or hillary or jeb. i think people are tired of that. >> its no secret that cnn has struggled with ratings. lets say youre running cnn instead of jeff zucker. how do you put on s...

That will educate the people. and that will hold people accountable. i think thats the secret to his success. we need more people on television who look like theyre fighting for the average guy versus for the gop or democrats or hillary or jeb. i think people are tired of that. >> its no secret that cnn has struggled with ratings. lets say youre running cnn instead of jeff zucker. how do you put on shows that people want? >> i think you need some tent pole talents. you need some really big talen...

Reelected nonetheless. while eventually i think voters might get fed up with his economic stewardship, they might not. secondly whether the president wants to hold up shiny objects for the press, we know the debt ceiling fight will come to a head. we know it will be a major clash. the president wants to maintain upper hand here. not so much what you or i might think is really going on. it is what voters think is going on. how they see things. he wants to maintain his image at a reasonable, ratio...

Off than you were four years ago? hes going to have to savagely attack mitt romney. we seen the start of that this week. >> that is grover norquists pick for vp speaking right there. i dont know. that guy versus joe biden for a debate. >> that says a lot that hes grover norquists favorite candidate. bobby jindal gives them the diversity because hes not a boring white guy, as we say. hes from a state theyve already got. his big issue is drilling and school vouchers. i dont think that thats necess...

Ago? hes going to have to savagely attack mitt romney. we seen the start of that this week. >> that is grover norquists pick for vp speaking right there. i dont know. that guy versus joe biden for a debate. >> that says a lot that hes grover norquists favorite candidate. bobby jindal gives them the diversity because hes not a boring white guy, as we say. hes from a state theyve already got. his big issue is drilling and school vouchers. i dont think that thats necessarily great selling point nat...

>> so all this combined with the new president obama as celebrity ad, this paints the romney camp, strategy as being the serious guy versus the cool guy. is this something that you think romney can win with? >> well these are serious times. i mean celebrity has not worked in a lot of ways. so the points that ed made on the lead-in to this clip are relevant points, we can continue to choose kind of anemic economic growth. drifting towards the waterfall that is the big debt problem in this country...

Norm rather than the exception. we have to take these excellence and make them systems of excellence. thats what were working so hard to do. because of the innovation of school superintendents, principals, school boards that will take our country where we need to go. >> senator duncan, thank you for your time. >> thank you. spy versus spy meant guy versus guy, which makes todays most important person you dont be all the more interesting. shes the first person ever to shes the first person ever...

Short guy versus abraham lincoln, the tall guy. each of their debates were hours long. they did do this series of seven in a row in seven different towns. mostly what they debated was slavery, lincolns opposition to slavery versus douglas belief that individual states should decide what they want to do on the issue. at the end of those absolutely legendary seven debates, abraham lincoln lost because the legendary lincoln/douglas debates of 1858, those were not presidential debates. those were de...

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