mundi said. listen to this. i am scared. i am frankly very, very scared that our next president hasn t a clue about what russia is actually up to. matthew, does the u.s. have a gauge of what russia is actually up to? the intelligence services say that they ve got a good gauge on that. i think the point that your earlier guest, the other guest on the show was making, was a really good one. that these hacking exercises, these hacking attempts, they take place all over the world. china does it. britain does. united states, definitely the russian do it as well. the scandal, remember, was the data dumping. the dumping of the information acquired through that hacking in an alleged attempt to influence the outcome of the presidential election. that s what the scandal was all about. in terms of, you know, whether
going to respond to all of this? president obama talked about it in an interview with npr. take a listen. i think there is no doubt that when any foreign government tries to impact the integrity of our elections that we need to take action. and we will. at a time and place of our own choosing. some of it may be explicit and publicized. some of it may not be. but mr. putin is well aware of my feelings about this because i spoke to him directly about it. kremlin spokesman said the russian leader gave a response to president obama that doesn t really fit with the u.s. narrative. officials tell us that the president has ordered government agencies to give him a range of actions that he can take before he leaves office. now in the meantime the hacking hasn t stopped. law enforcement officials tell cnn that the fbi is now investigating hacking attempts after the election that were
senator from maine senator king sits on the senate select committees and armed services. senator, thank you for joining us. we are of the understanding that members of congress on both sides of the aisle have been briefed. we re not hearing from any of you disputing the basic intel that russia was involved in the hacking attempts on the u.s. election. but because of the president-elect s questioning of even that basic understanding, do you think proof of the hacking and russia s involvement should be made public to the american people? absolutely. and, chris, on those two points, it has been made public. back in october, jim clapper the director of national int intelligence released an extraordinary statement and kind of got lost in all the midst of the campaign at the time and it concluded very clearly that russia was behind the hacking. they were behind the leaks. it was intended the word they
back to attempts to hack into the white house, the state department, the joint chiefs of staff. they have seen the conduct and the type of signatures that these hacking attempts have, and they have been able to trace a lot of this. the nsa and fbi has been working on this for a couple years now. what they have noticed is the same type of behavior. that s one reason why they have, they say they have some very high confidence in the fact that they know the russians were behind this. but the question is, how did this get from russian intelligence into the hands of wikileaks and d.c. leaks and these other web sites. that s the question the fbi is still working to answer, frankly. the cia is a little more forward-leaning. they think they have identified some people who are go-betweens. we don t know exactly what all that evidence entails but we know that in october, the director of national intelligence and homeland security department said publicly that they believe the russians were behin
operation that targeted mostly democratic party groups and hillary clinton s presidential campaign. we are told that investigators haven t found any evidence directly linking back to putin, but officials believe that because of the nature of this operation, he would have had to give the orders on what to do with the stolen e-mails. in recent weeks intelligence agencies have been collecting a lot more evidence, including from human sources, to back up these assessments. meantime, as you mentioned, the hacking has not stopped. law enforcement sources tell us that the fbi is now investigating hacking attempts after the election, targeting the clinton campaign, some of their staffers are now telling us they have received security notices as recently as last week indicating that they had some attempts to get into their private e-mail accounts. officials say that despite the fact the russians are expecting better relations with the incoming trump administration, we are expecting that this ru