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circumstantial. they found also this bloody rug at the transfer station, and that also -- that's dna. it comes back to ana. there's a lot of information about some crime of violence given hacksaws and hatchets and, you know, $450 to try to clean up the scene amateurs don't clean up scenes very well. professional companies, they exist to clean up crime scenes. he's sloppy. it's an amazing thing when you put all this together and look at the doing the searches but without a body it's a challenge. but they can certainly get a conviction if not first-degree, at least second-degree murder even without a body.

it's a kind of gift. we had to look at this part of our country. we had look at what was happening. we couldn't go merely along and pretend we were just progressing. like we had to wake up and we have woken up. and i was just thinking looking for the right metaphor for every new branch on the permission structure we have 100 women with hacksaws and axes climbing up and trying to take it down. look at this panel. look a this panel. all female panel. that school board, almost all women. you know, i think that we are the ones we have been waiting for as they say, right. we need to do this. it's not -- i don't want to sound like poly anna. it's not easy. i have a lot of privilege in saying this it takes a kplunt to do it. and a community we're not used to. making the community more diverse than we have had before and being a little uncomfortable about that. but i love what you were saying that quote from ms. jenkins it

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your house? >> we had been through floods before, just not as bad as this before. we never had to evacuate the house before. but so we started cleaning, and stacking everything up and packing things in boxing, because we know kind of what to expect. but the water rose up to about my chest. and we had to just wade out everywhere. and everything was black and dark and you couldn't really see anything in the water. stuff was just floating around and boxes were just everywhere. >> reporter: inside your home. >> yes. >> reporter: so who makes the decision at that point let's go for the car? >> our entire family agreed on that almost immediately, because it's pretty elevated. my mom actually came up with that plan. and we were also planning on bringing hacksaws and hammers up to the attic in case we had to go up there and get out. but city -- i'm pretty sure they released a statement when we were on the car that they advised us not to go up to the attic. >> reporter: that's true. >> because they can't get us out and they don't know we're there. but we decided we wanted to in case prep that place with saws and stuff. >> reporter: so you're one of the most prepared families in

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sick or they're a student. >> exactly. the optics for the whole thing for the state of kentucky it's just horrible. we always have to remember that we don't like to pigeonhole any group of people into making them into a negative stereotype. what this does, this perpetuates the whole adage that poor people need to pull themselves up by their boot straps. the reason why they're requiring this type of medicaid is because they're lazy and they don't work. that's not true. i take care of a huge medicaid population in the state of louisiana. when you look at louisiana, kentucky, these people work every day and they deserve health care. now, the issue is, people say, deserving of health care, that's not in the constitution. that's what trump likes to say. but we have to think about when the constitution was written. people also used to use hacksaws to cut off legs when the constitution was written so health care was not a pry

another prison employee, gene palmer, is accused of delivering the hamburger meat with the hacksaws inside to the cell mates. >> did you help them? >> palmer is charged with promoting dangerous prison contraband, two counts of destroying evidence, and one count of official misconduct. his attorney says palmer was unaware the blades were in the meat. but the d.a. says palmer failed to properly screen the meat in a metal detector, violating prison policy. >> he was conned by joyce mitchell. she duped him. and looking back on that, he can't believe that someone would take advantage of him. he knows that he made a mistake and that he shouldn't have done what he did. >> meanwhile, joyce mitchell's lawyer says she is distraught. but her story is far from over. lyle mitchell visited his wife in jail after she was taken in, and he is confronted outside by abc news with a stunning question. >> what do you make of the reports that she was trying to

hacksaws, and other items. and it didn't stop there. authorities say mitchell admitted she was actually going to drive the getaway car. this is where they were supposed to meet. this power plant is just a few hundred yards away from the manhole where the men emerged from. the power plant's smokestack, i'm told, is visible from the tailor shop at the prison where the two men worked with joyce mitchell. the d.a. says that smokestack was likely a marker for their meeting place. but on the day of the planned getaway, she panics, saying she has chest pains. and instead of picking up her lover and his fellow fugitive, she goes to the hospital with her husband, lyle. >> prisoners have all the time in the world. they are con men to begin with. these guys are sociopaths. they manipulate this women. they got to this woman's low self-esteem. and they got her, which i think is sad. now her life is ruined. her life is holy hell. they are out there running around and couldn't care less about her. >> joyce mitchell is charged on a felony charge of providing contraband and a misdemeanor charge of facilitation. she pleads not guilty to both charges.

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prison. women married the menendez brothers, a man married the hillside strangler who tortured women in l.a. with coat hangers. it never surprises me. >> mitchell isn't just risking her marriage. she is risking her freedom. all the while she is having this relationship with matt, investigators say she is also aware of their escape plot, even giving them tools. a law enforcement official says she admitted smuggling in hacksaw blades by hiding them inside frozen hamburger meat and having the meat delivered to richard matt. investigators say she also secretly brought in chisels, hacksaws, and other items. and it didn't stop there. authorities say mitchell admitted she was actually going to drive the getaway car. this is where they were supposed to meet.

another prison employee, gene palmer, is accused of delivering the hamburger meat with the hacksaws inside to the cell mates. >> did you help them? >> palmer is charged with promoting dangerous prison contraband, two counts of destroying evidence, and one count of official misconduct. his attorney says palmer was unaware the blades were in the meat. but the d.a. says palmer failed to properly screen the meat in a metal detector, violating prison policy. >> he was conned by joyce mitchell. she duped him. and looking back on that, he can't believe that someone would take advantage of him. he knows that he made a mistake and that he shouldn't have done what he did. >> meanwhile, joyce mitchell's lawyer says she is distraught. but her story is far from over. lyle mitchell visited his wife in jail after she was taken in, and he is confronted outside by abc news with a stunning question.