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such concern about this? >> reporter: well, we have known about this meeting for a very long time, but what is only recently come to light is the fact that trump may have had advanced knowledge of this meeting or, very at the least, may have been told about it shortly after the fact. michael cohen is preferred to testify to special counselor robert mueller that trump had a heads-up about that meeting and contradict what donald trump jr. has already told congressional investigators. rudy giuliani, trump's personal attorney, is denying that trump jr. is in legal jeopardy telling cnn n a statement, it is not so. after over a year or more of investigating there is no wrongdoing on his part for that matter the president. nothing has changed. we are not worried about michael cohen he has no knowledge of wrongdoing and recorded it in one version or another so often that he can't be believed or relied on. sources tell telling cnn that
we got to stop everybody. >> reporter: there is also an unexpected guest here for president trump's speech. former communications director hope hicks who resigned from the administration in february. white house officials say that her presence here should not signal a return, essentially telling cnn it doesn't mean much more than just a friendly visit. boris sanchez, cnn, traveling with the president, outside of columbus, ohio. washington bureau chief of the chicago sun times lynn sweet is us and legal analyst page pate. what did you make of the president's rally and how significant is it on this special election on tuesday? >> in terms of rallying the base, it is significant because anything to get out the vote is important. i listen to that and there is, like, three ways to listen to that. part of it, i have to say, that just the facts that president trump got wrong, he talked about
but he said it. and he believes it will be effective and he pushed, pushed as far as he could about saying -- about painting the democrats as people were were not law abiding and wanted everything the people he was talking to did not want. >> page, let's get to what else the president, as we are understanding is concerned about his son don jr. being incriminated some some sense in this mueller probe. how vulnerable is don jr., based on what we know thus far? >> any time someone makes statements to a congressional panel or investigators or law enforcement officers, there is always the risk if they give a false statement, if they say something that is not true, they can later be prosecuted for either making a false statement, which is a separate crime, or perjury, if the testimony is given under oath. the question is does the special counsel have enough evidence to prove something don jr. said was false? i don't think they will rest
simply on what michael cohen may be saying now. i think they are going to need more. there if there is corroborating evidence that don jr. said anything about that meeting or in addition anything else that is not true he faces the risk of being prosecuted for making a false statement or possibly for perjury. >> the president is a father. you understand his concern for his son, lynn. >> sure. >> is there anything that the president -- i mean, just talking about it and being out there, he is actually, in some sense, do you think, making it worse for don jr.? >> no. because i think mueller and his probers just follow the trail. and i know, page, you talked about what seems to be a potential obstruction of justice charge. i think the exposure lies is that don jr. could speak to the collusion charge. whether or not the meeting took place, how it took place, and why it took place are very important -- we know it took place. are pieces of the puzzle. was it because it was not just
during the the trial that is not necessarily true. but if he has something to offer the special counsel's office then he could always strike a deal. looking at the evidence we have seen so far in the trial, it is moving fast, i think much faster than most people expected, there is a pile of documents building up that the prosecution has laid out for people to see that show false statements were made, money was being moved, and manafort knew about it. the real question is what are we going to hear from rick gates next week? i do anticipate he will be called early in the week. will he be able to show that manafort knew about all of these false statements, all of the money movements and l. failures to disclose the bank accounts? because manafort's team, of course, is saying this is all rick gates and he did it all and did it so he could steal money from paul manafort. now is the crunch time for the defense. will they be able to show that through cross-examination? >> lynn sweet and page pate, we appreciate you being here so much. >> thank you.
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organization. ebola outcome in the democratic republic of congo. 73 people have died so far including two health care workers. >> they are treating 13 confirmed case of ebola and 30 other probable case. the world health organization says this ebola outbreak is even more challenging because experts are having to respond in the middle of a war zone. the search for a missing toddler from georgia led investigators to an incredibly shocking discovery in new mexico in the desert. nearly a dozen children living in filthy conditions. >> a reporter from our affiliate koat takes us there. >> reporter: sheriff's deputies got a missing child bulletin in may. other agencies across the country got the same one. >> specific to us that there was information they might have been traveling to northern new mexico. >> reporter: they learned about a compound being built in a meadow. >> pretty much completely off the grid and right up just
literally only a mile or so from the county and colorado border. >> the investigation didn't turn up much. >> we just continued to learn what we could about it and, at some point in there, we kind of believed that this might have an access to the missing child in georgia. >> reporter: surveillance continued on that compound and two adults were identified. >> we were able to get a search warrant for the property to search for the child, the father, and the welfare of anyone else on the property. >> reporter: 11 eleven ages ranging from 1 to 15 were found inside horrible conditions. the sheriffs describe the kids as looking like starving refuges and people passing through were surprised to hear this. >> it's horrible. >> it scares me because the
safety of my own children who are teenagers. you never know what can happen at any given point. >> reporter: waha and morton were arrested. >> our thanks to shelly leggett in albuquerque for that report. >> the children we understand are in the care of child protective service. no word on where the missing child from georgia was but we are told that chill was not one of the 11 found in the compound. just to be clear there. a father accused of killing his two young children, houston police say the children's mother found them stabbed to death in their own beds yesterday afternoon. the woman told police after dropping off the 8-year-old boy and 1-year-old girl at their father's apartment he called saying he was going to kill them. police say the couple had been married but recently separated. it's that time of the year.
hurricane hector has weakened slightly, still a category 3. the thing it's taking aim at hawaii. >> emergency management officials are telling people there to, of course, prepare and get their survival kits ready now. meteorologist allison chinchar has more on hector's path. good morning. >> hurricane hector winds 125 miles an hour and gusting to a 155. its movement is west about at 12 miles per hour. it's still basically in the middle of the ocean. still well away from hawaii but it's making its way in that direction. it is a category 3 storm right now, but it was just a category 4 just a few hours ago. but we are starting to see where that storm is moving. it is expected to remain a major hurricane until tuesday mid-day. then we expect some more weakening as it continues its
trek to the west. notice here. it is expected to clip the southern edge of the big island of hawaii. two similar storms in the last four years both hurricane esell and hurricane darby formed in the eastern pacific and a similar trek toward the big island and impacted that big island in 2014 and 2016 respectively. just in the last four years. now one thing to note is this particular track really just clips the very southern edge of the big island. the volcano we have been talking about for months, kilauea, is to the north of where that cone line ends up dropping off so it is expected to be outside of that cone of certainty that would end up having the direct hit. now, at this point in time, the main concern going forward really is going to be the rainfall. because even if it does not make a direct hit on the big island of hawaii, those outer bands will still provide some pretty significant moisture. at this point in time not out of the question to get two, three, four, each perhaps as much as 6 inches of rain. the good news is that going to be focused on just one of the
islands. the remainder of the islands to the north and west of that will likely get lesser amounts, say, under about 2 inches total as this system slides off to the west. >> allison chinchar, thank you. a report that a russian woman charged with spying got really close to a former trump campaign aide and we will have the details of that story in a minute. "the new york times" columnist said the president's attack against the media sheds light on his empire campaign to monopolize information. this is not a bed.
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happy sunday to you. glad to have you here. i'm christi paul. >> i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. good to see you. a new report from "the washington post" that maria butina who is russian charged with spying interacted with j.d. gordon in the run-up of the 2016 election. >> the two were in contact over email in september and october of 2016. gordon invited her to attend a concert and birthday party that month. here is cnn sara sidner. >> reporter: for alleged russian spy, maria butina skills she liked the platforms of twitter and what's app.
her approach left men wondering what she is really after and sources say she bragged about her ties to russian intelligence when she was intoxicated. some reported her to law enforcement sources tell cnn. she pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiracy and acting as a foreign agent after her arrest in july. her lawyer says she is not a spy and won't cut a deal with prosecutors if it means saying she is one. >> the problem is cutting a deal but if you're not an agent for a federal government you can't lie and say you are to get rid of this. >> reporter: intelligence experts see butina as trying to infiltrate gop political circles as one of the cools in moscow arsenals and vladimir putin tries to meddle in american democracy, an ongoing effort. >> we continue to see a pervasive messaging campaign by russia to try to weaken and guide the united states. >> reporter: past russian spies
have adopted fake identities, used invisible inc.ening and coded with messages over radio transmitters but the under radar approach didn't seem to suit but butina. in 2015, she questioned then candidate donald trump about sanctions against russia at a nevada political event. >> i'm a visitor from russia. >> reporter: as an american university student, putin defended putten and claimed to be the russian campaign and sources. people who met her say she was a little too friendly and quick to start playing footsy under the table and asked men to be facebook friends. her lawyer admits her activities and contacts caught the attention of the fsb one of russia's security services. >> i think anyone who is russian has to meet with the fsb when
they go back and forth and frequently asked at the airport what they are doing in america if they have information from the fsb. >> reporter: experts say she was probably a valuable asset for russia. >> i think she would have been valuable to the russian government despite the fact she wasn't a classically trained intelligence officer like perhaps someone luike anna chapman. >> reporter: when investigators searched the home of butina and her boyfriend who has not been accused of wrongdoing they found a note and it's unclear which of them it was for. joining me is kimberly dozier of "the daily beast." good morning to you. >> good morning. >> let me start with the basic question. how worrying is the fact that an alleged russian spy got really close, it raps, or attempted to to a trump campaign? >> what it shows us, if she was,
indeed, directed by the russian government as the u.s. government is trying to prove, that russia understands the most important part of changing the mind of your opposition is to get to know people, to build relationships. they have several different levels of operative that reaches out in different countries to put forth the russian point of view. where butina would fall is an agent of influence rather than an official spy and that is probably why the u.s. government is not trying to make a case against her for espionage, but, instead, as than unregistered agent of foreign influence. in that role, what she would do is much like an intelligence officer, a diplomat, or a journalist, build relationships with her target audience. >> what i find interesting about this is there has been, you know, of course, no end of talk about russian meddling and we look at this as a cyberworld. this is very old school and sort
of classic in which we talk about the possibility of a person being used as a spy and a female spy in this way. president trump, as we know, does not seem to agree with his intelligence. you saw that very distinctly this week. and i'm wondering, i'm referencing, of course, the russian meddling what may be this forthcoming election, how does a community prepare or fight off these kind of attacks if the man in charge of the nation doesn't seem to be on board? >> well, it's tough for national security professionals who are laboring in the trenches trying to track down russian spying and russian influence. but as they find these plots, and as they convince agents overseas to spy for them, to have the message coming from the top of the white house, that, oh, this is all a hoax. so it's both embarrassing for the leaders who went out on thursday, the cabinet members who went out and said, yes,
russia is trying to meddle actively to this day, to then have their commander in chief go out that night to an audience and say, oh, this is all a hoax. but it's also disturbing for the people who are in the trenches who are getting originals, especially in foreign countries, to risk their lives and then they have to wonder, okay, if we find a smoking gun type evidence of something, will the president allow us to act on this? or is he too much -- is he good friends with vladimir putin and that is going to make all of our work worthless? >> the president did actually talk about the possibility of russian meddling last night when he was speaking in columbus, ohio. you got to hear how he spoke. take a listen. >> we got to stop it. we got to stop meddling. we got to stop everybody from attacking us. but there are a lot. russia is there. china is there.
hey. we are doing well with north korea but they are probably there. we got to stop everybody. >> that doesn't ring with real sincerity. and i'm wondering just what is this kind of message that we are hearing? >> well, what i hear from donald trump is this desire to preserve his two tracks. he seems to be playing the good cop track with moscow, with china, with north korea, where he tries to maintain the open door with their leaders, while using his national security team, his economics team to deliver the hammer. so that is also what i hear -- it also goes back to he is talking to his base about an election that he won and he doesn't want anything to besmirge that and that winning in 2016 is a blow to his ego.
>> you're right. it has to be noted as to the audience he is reaching out to. when it comes to the midterm elections coming up, are you concerned about, say, direct meddling to try to alter the mechanics of the vote, or is it more a concern about altering people's mindsets as they go into vote? >> you're absolutely right. i think moscow is much more sophisticated than trying to actually hack into voting machines, though there is evidence that they have tried to do that. but, really, they have already changed the game in terms of how part of america thinks towards russia, especially the part of america that supports trump and you can see on facebook, throughout social media, says that the liberals are just trying to tear moscow down and moscow is a potential ally. so those minds have already been changed and won. >> it's fascinating because i talk to so many people who support the president and they will tell you one of their greatest sources of information
is either from their friends or from the internet. clearly, the russians have figured this out? >> exactly. they know that the game that they are playing for their monopoly board people's hearts and minds and what they have been aiming for a long time. you could say, though, the u.s. has been doing the same thing, according to russia, with things like the national endowment for democracy and the u.s. talks to businessmen who are willing to talk to them who have traveled to moscow to collect information from them. from moscow's turn of view is turn-about is fair play. >> kimberly dozier, thank you. >> thank you. first lady melania trump brazie i praising lebron james for his charity work but after the president insulted the nba star on twitter.
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39 minutes past of the hour right now. first lady melania trump praised lebron james for his charity work. the thing it was in direct contradiction to her president's criticism of the nba star just hours earlier. her spokeswoman put out a statement saying this, quote. so we have got senior politics reporter from t"the huffington post" with us now, laura bassett. it seems as though she is saying, listen. what my husband thinks is not necessarily what i think exerting her independence. but this message was highly intentionally on her part, was it not? >> absolutely intentional. look. she didn't have to put out a
statement. she doesn't have to put out a statement on everything the president does and she certainly doesn't. i think ma lawn that has this be best campaign. it's her signature cause as first lady andan an anti-cyberbullying campaign. if she were to stand by and say nothing while her husband hue mi -- humiliates people by blulg them online. she has not only tried to distance herself from him and assert her independence but publicly contradict him. >> yeah, in january, she traveled separately from the president to his state of the union address which was noted. in march she talked about the criticism i don't want to say make fun of by any means but they question the authenticity of the be best campaign. she said you can criticize me all you want but i'm going to do what i know is right is exactly
what she said. it's surprising and unintentional coming out of tge bush and laura bush and obama years. historically, is it really that unusual? for a first lady to put herself out there? >> i think it's extremely unusual to have these -- it's regular contradicting statements coming from the first lady and coming from the white house. a couple of weeks ago, i'm sure you guys remember, there was reports that donald trump criticized her for watching cnn. and her press team put out a statement saying the first lady watches whatever she wants. of course, everyone remembers the jacket controversy. she wore that jacket to visit migrant children that said i don't really care, do you? her press team put out a statement saying there is no hidden message on the jacket and trump came out and said it's a message against the press and it's talking about the press. there was some speculation that
i don't really care message was about migrant childrenship i'm starting to wonder if that message was directed at her husband or about the politics of the white house in general, because she seems now intent on having her own voice and being her own person. >> do you think it would be smart for her to go to the lebron james school if she is invited? >> i think that it would be a real message. >> you're trying to figure that out, right? >> words i can't say is what it would be to her husband. >> do you think there is a space, say, for melania trump to join in some sort of charitable effort with lebron james? >> i think she should. i think if she is going to have this be best campaign and if she profess to visit migrant children at the border and saying she really cares about, you know, about schools, about all of the things she professes to scare about, sure, i think a
really nice move and way for the white house, the whole white house to extend an olive branch to this person who is deeply insulted by the president. >> so with that said, when we look at how she moves forward with the best, she has to be very intentional in that, but how does she get away from the criticism of her husband when she clearly has a very jen schwi -- genuine interest in doing something good for the children. >> i think the criticism will come as long as she stays with her husband and married to him. she is saying i support lebron james. that is pretty easy thing to say. is not saying i denounce my husband for bullying him online. until she does, that i think the criticism will keep coming. >> laura bassett, it's just so fascinating on one hand but, at the same time, she is fighting to stand on her own and thank
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he says. >> he says the threat to democracy becomes greater if the media and trump administration cannot at least have a shared sense of information. and back with us to discuss this is cnn senior media correspondent brian stelter. you talked to david about this this morning and other news as well. good to see you by the way. >> you too. it'sen interesting way to think about the retore cal exercises when he says polls are fake are highlights certain polls he likes or attacks robert mueller, trying to control what information is acceptable. that's what david leinhart suggested in this interview. this is an especially bad week when it came to the president's campaign against independent information. here's part of what david said. >> he essentially is on a campaign against anyone who represents an independent source of information. the media, mueller's investigation, the fbi, the national security apparatus, the congressional budget office,
scientists in the case of climate change, i could go on and on. but trump essentially wants a monopoly on information and wants to attack anyone who threatens that monopoly. >> kind of an interesting framing and interesting way to think about the president's criticism of the media and criticism of the mueller et cetera investigation, et cetera. if you look at what's okay and acceptable, that might all start to make sense. >> brian, the latest tweet from the president really kind of takes it to a whole new level though, doesn't it? >> just posted something in the last few minutes, once again here attacking the press as the enemy of the people. you know, you all can read on screen for yourselves, it's pretty ugly. says the press can sew great division and distrust and also cause war. he also journalists are very dangerous and sick. look, he does continue to rachet it up a little louder every time. i think of it as a verbal form
of poison. slow acting poison. it trickles through the veins and intended to cause people not to trust what they read and see and hear. he's been pretty explit is bit that recently, saying you can't believe what you're reading and i notice one line in the rally last night that sums it up really well, he said we're doing so many things that you don't even know about it. he was saying that in a positive way to supporters saying the media is not telling you about the great things we're accomplishing. you can also view that in a negative way, about the scandals and controversies that plague his administration. but he believes the press is out to get him and he acts very much like he's in a bunker, like he's on the defense, it is one of the defining themes of this presidency. >> other presidents though have of course tried to monopolize information or control their message or their investigation of events, much more difficult in a modern world when you have social media and many more different media outlets. >> the president supported by a
pro trump media universe that could not have existed 20 years ago and did not exist ten years ago. largely it's fox news and a variety of websites that prop him up and support him almost no matter what. at the rally last night it was really telling, the president giving shout-outs to the favorite fox news host and saying we, we are winning, we are in this together. he thinks of himself almost as a part of fox news at this point, at least that's how he was talking at the rally last night. when he says enemy of the people, this is extremist rhetoric, the kind of rhetoric used by stalin and other dictators many decades ago and has its roots in an ugly part of our shared history on this planet. and so the president when he brings that language back and tries to use that language to divide people, it's going to end up being a sad chapter of his presidency. >> brian stelter, always appreciate you, thank you so much, sir. >> be sure to catch him on
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was actually dictated by president trump himself, saying this, we primarily discussed a program about the adoption of russian children. with no mention of dirt on hillary clinton. it wasn't until "the new york times" was going to break the story that trump junior was promised damaging information on clinton back in july of last year. that was "the new york times" reporting. at the time, trump junior and the trump team started changing their tune, saying the promise of damaging information turned into mainly an adoption conversation. >> they get into the meeting, and it quickly turns a pretext for russian adoption, according to his statement. the comments are about any type of information on hillary clinton were vague, meaningless. >> as you can see from the e-mails, the pretext of the meeting was, hey, we have information. there was some small talk. i don't even remember what it was. it was sort of nonsensical.
then it quickly went on to, you know, a story about russian adoption and how we could possibly help. >> there was nothing as far as we know that would lead anyone to believe there was anything except for a discussion about adoption. >> all right. this change comes as sources tell cnn the president is concerned about his son becoming entangled in the russia probe. cnn's white house correspondent boris sanchez is in new jersey near the president's golf resort, where he is staying for his working vacation. so we know this meeting is of interest to the mueller team. what is the white house position on this latest trump approach? >> reporter: hey there, fred. yeah, another denial from the trump administration. the president responding to this reporting from cnn that indicates he's not only worried and concerned for his son and his son-in-law and the legal implications of this russia probe but that he's agitated enough to aggressively attack the special counsel. several sources telling cnn that's part of the reason the president has become so
aggressive toward robert mueller over the past several weeks. the president this morning denying that reporting on twitter. here's a tweet that he sent out. he writes, quote, fake news reporting a complete fabrication that i'm concerned about the meeting my wonderful son donald had in trump tower. this was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics, and it went nowhere. i did not know about it. of course, in that tweet there's no mention of adoption, which was the official story that we got from the white house when asked what the purpose of that meeting was. and when the white house legal team was pressed, they told us and the american that the president had no involvement in the crafting of that adoption story. a short while later through sources, we learn that the president actually dictated that statement put out by donald trump jr. today it was one of his attorneys that led that denial, acknowledging he was wrong. listen to this. >> i had bad information at that
point. i made a mistake in my statement. i talked about that before. that happens when you have cases like this. as far as when did we correct it, the important part is the information that we've shared with the office of special counsel, i'm not going to get into the details, but we were very clear as to the situation involving that trip and the statements that were made to "the new york times." so i think it's very important to point out that in a situation like this, you have, over time, facts develop. that's what investigations do. i agreed to go on your network and others days within being retained on this and had a lot of information to process. i got that one wrong. >> reporter: now, despite calls from the president for this russia investigation to end, every indication is that it will continue. last week cnn reported that special counsel robert mueller is interested in hearing more from people that were in that trump tower meeting, including
that russian pop singer whose father is a russian oligarch with deep ties to vladimir putin. he helped facilitate that meeting. what we're hearing from sources is the special counsel has been involved in ongoing conversations for over a year to try to set up a meeting with that russian pop star, fred. >> all right, boris sanchez. thanks so much. so what does all of this mean for the russia investigation? joining me right now, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor michael zeldin, cnn political analyst and congressional reporter for "the washington post", karoun. good to see you all. we just heard from jay sekulow there, one of trump's attorneys saying he misspoke in previous statements. he's also now questioning the meeting's overall legality. take a listen. >> the question is how would it be illegal? the real question here is would a meeting of that nature
constitute a violation, the meeting itself violate the law. there are irregularities in this investigation, the likes of which we have not seen. so michael, you first. a few things there from jay sekulow. kind of sounds like he's falling on the sword, saying i made a mistake, i misspoke. then to the issue of legality, he says a meeting of this nature, talking about of adoption, that's not legal or is he talking about just meeting period, whether there's dirt or whether it's about adoption? >> right. so a couple things. first, isn't it refreshing to have jay sekulow instead of rudy giuliani? but secondly, to your exact point, the meeting itself can be illegal or legal depending. >> depending objen the content? >> depending on the content and the purpose. under the federal election law, if you knowingly and willfully
endeavor to receive a donation or a thing of value from a foreign national, that can be a crime. the facts here could reach that. similarly, if you conspire with others to defraud the federal election commission of their rights to run fair elections, that could be a crime. so to answer jay's question, there are two crimes on paper that could fit the facts here. whether a prosecutor would ever bring a case like that is another matter. but there are two crimes that mueller will look at and make determinations, presumably about whether these meetings meet the standard of probable cause to believe that a crime was committed. >> so there's the political message. there's the legal message. that kind of underscores the legal messaging. but why politically does jay sekulow or even president trump think it's better to clean this up, you know, to try to help out don junior? >> who better to clean this up
at this stage? there's been several rounds of cleanup. at what point is it the final round? that's not clear. if things go poorly for don junior, that starts to get close to the president. you start to see the father/son relationship, it's a lot more difficult to assume, okay, well, there was no conversation casually there, the way you could say for trump and an employee. with the various sorts of legal problems the president is having and the people around the president, this issue of credibility comes up often. don junior was a face for the president in his original campaign. we're now back in campaign mode again. you kind of want to have people trust the trump name and all the trumps that are associated with it, even if there's a mess going on. you can always blame people for not having been loyal enough or not having given you the straight story. it helps them to try to also push this to the side because it has kept coming up over and over
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file, for the record so they have a consistent account to present, whether it's to congress or someone else. >> that's right. mueller at end of his investigation has to file a confidential report with rosenstein to say, these are the people i indicted, these are the people i didn't indict, these are the reasons why i didn't indict them. so being able to complete that narrative, i think, is important from a legal perspective and perhaps from a political perspective as well so that we know what happened and that if the president did nothing wrong, we can move forward from it. if he did something wrong, we can know what that wrong was and what the action that should be taken in respect of it is. so i think that the interview is important, but its parameters still need to be negotiated. >> karoun, this speaks volumes perhaps that jay sekulow would come in the way in which he is. we haven't heard a lot from him.
story. >> it is a weird thing for a lawyer to do, certainly, but we have seen a lot of weird things happen in the last year and a half, especially when it comes to stories changing as explanations are being given for episodes in this presidency/campaign that potentially have legal consequences because things were done not on the up and up. but yeah, i think it's interesting that he's saying what he's saying in a way of being like, everybody calm down, nothing to see here, but also interesting he's separating himself from his client. >> right, but in sekulow's credit, things do evolve. it evolved in white water. it involved in watergate. things evolve. in this case, evolved. where it takes us next, we'll see. we still have to answer the question of when did the president know of this meeting? that's still a flat denial by the president. i did not know of this meeting before the fact. that still needs to be sorted. >> and julian, are these
>> thanks so much to all of you. appreciate it. all right. it is a key test for the trump administration before voters head to the polls in november. the special election in ohio just two days away now. a republican nominee in a traditionally republican district should be a sure win, but that's not the case. is president trump's popularity enough to get the nominee over this hurdle? we'll discuss next. plus, a shocking discovery in new mexico during a search for a missing child. authorities find nearly a dozen children in a filthy trailer wearing nothing but rags. no food or fresh water. a live report coming up. ♪ ♪ keep it comin' love. if you keep on eating, we'll keep it comin'. all you can eat riblets and tenders at applebee's. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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they've controlled for three decades. that's why president trump made a special trip there for a rally last night. >> we must elect more republicans, and we must elect troy bolderson. we have to elect troy. so get your friends, get your neighbors, get your family, and get out and vote for troy on tuesday. >> i need your volunteer hours, your enthusiasm, and most importantly i need your vote august 7th. >> all right. it's the last major race before the mid terms, and it will reveal a lot about what we'll see this fall potentially. joining me right now, reporter at the columbus dispatch. he covered last night's rally. harry, good to see you. you first.
there are several things on the line in this ohio race for the gop and for the white house. sum it up for us. >> i would just say this, this is a district that donald trump won by double digits in 2016. it's a district that hasn't had a democratic representative in it since at least the 1980s. and if the republican cannot win in this district, it is just another sign that the republicans are in major trouble heading into this midterm election. it's another special election where the republican candidate vastly undershot donald trump's percentage of the vote in 2016. and that's just bad news for republicans. >> so harry, you write. i'm just taking a small section. in ohio, balderson is barely holding on because trump's approval rating is about even with his disapproval rating in the district that voted for him by 11 percentage points in 2016. so what are you hearing specifically from voters? what happened? what changed so many minds about
the president? >> you know, i think essentially the biggest change is hillary clinton is not the democratic nominee for president in 2018. republic remember, donald trump was very unpopular in 2016, but he was facing off against hillary clinton, who was the second most unpopular candidate. without hillary clinton on the ballot, it's all about a referendum on donald j. trump. this is what's going on, and that's the big change, i believe. >> so was that a big risk for the president to be campaigning for him and for balderson so tod -- to say, if you want someone who will fight for the president, it goes both ways. >> yeah, i would say it's somewhat of a mistake. donald trump's numbers in those districts aren't as bad as they are nationally. his approval rating is about equal to his disapproval rating. this is also a district that isn't a donald trump type of republican. it's much more the john kasich type of republican. it's the best-educated district
in the state. if troy balderson does, in fact, win on tuesday, it's not going to be because an assist of donald trump. it's because of an assist from john kasich, who's been pro republican in this particular special election. >> and jim, the latest polls showing that race is tightening after the republican candidate lost a sizable lead. we're talking about one percentage point between them according to this monmouth university poll. just as harry was saying, governor john kasich says normally this race would be a slam dunk for republicans. look into the crystal ball. what could potentially happen here? >> well, there's a reason that danny o'connor, the democrat, has been courting kasich republicans. as was just said, this is not a -- this is the wealthiest and most highly educated district in the state. these are the type of folks that danny o'connor believes are not necessarily your hard core trump supporters but are folks who maybe are more in the kasich
wing of the party. he has been out there talking about how, hey, i'm for medicaid expansion just like john kasich. i'm for some of these gun provisions like red flag laws, just like john kasich. he's been attacking the tax cuts quite a bit, saying these are nothing but corporate giveaways. so he's really trying to appeal to -- not appeal to the donald trump wing, but appeal to others. right new there's a lot more democratic enthusiasm in the district. if you look at the three largest counties in the district, right now democrats are plus 23 compared to where they were in 2016. >> so then jim, as you talk to people, do you feel -- you mentioned there's this democratic enthusiasm. do you feel like voters as they cast their ballots will, indeed, be casting a referendum, you know, vote for or against the
president? >> i do think that's going to be a big part of it. i mean, in an election like this where really, to be honest, you have two candidates running, but it's a compressed time. neither one of these candidates is particularly well known throughout the district when this all started. so yeah, when you have donald trump coming in last night, six days ago mike pence was here. when you have that type -- republicans are drawing from that in order to gain enthusiasm and try to drive up the vote. it's hard to see this as much other than whether or not this is going to be a referendum on the president's performance. i do still think it's an uphill battle for danny o'connor. voter registration in this district is two to one republican. so even with more enthusiasm, it's still a tough hill to climb. >> and this is kasich's assessment of the race. let's listen. >> so, you know, i think donald
trump decides where he wants to go. i think they think they're firing up the base, but at the same time hee com comes in here was with someone last night who said, you know what, i'm not voting. and they're republicans. this is the problem the party has now. the problem the democrats have is i don't know what their message is, george. you tell me. it's sort of like anti-trump but no message. you can't win elections if you don't have a message. >> so harry, is he on point there? >> i think you can win a special election without a message as long as your message is i'm not donald trump. i mean, midterms are always referendums on the president. that's why this special election is a good test for the midterm elections because it is being seen, as we've spoken about, as a referendum on donald trump. you know, i do agree with what we've said earlier, which is that neither of these candidates are particularly well known. so for me, if the republican ends up losing this race in a district that's so heavily democratic, it's just very, very bad news going forward for them. >> jim, final thoughts?
>> yeah, i don't know that the democrats were particularly unhappy to see donald trump come to the district. i think danny o'connor is more than happy to say that troy balderson is tied in with him and that he believes and democrats believe that will get their voters more enthused about this race than it will turn out republican votes. >> all right. just two days away. once again, all eyes on ohio. harry enten and jim siegel, thanks so much. appreciate it. straight ahead, venezuela's president says he was the victim of an assassination attempt. who is he blaming for the attack? that's next. ♪
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tensions with iran continue to rise as the u.s. prepares to impose renewed sanctions. starting tomorrow this phase targets manufacturing, but there is a bigger round coming in november aimed at oil sales. these are the first new sanctions to go into effect since president trump pulled out of the iran nuclear agreement. also, iran's regime confirmed that it is conducting military exercises in a key shipping lane in the persian gulf. with me right now is our cnn global affairs analyst, an opinion writer for "the washington post." he was also imprisoned by iran's regime for 544 days. always good to see you, jason. >> great to be back. >> these sanctions, how much harm could it potentially do to
the people there? >> in 2012 when i was still reporting from iran, the obama administration placed severe sanctions on iran, cutting it off from the global banking system, blocking oil sales, and making the importation of goods from the rest of the world very difficult. and we saw a very, very quick and steep decline in the currency as well as shortages of goods for short periods of time, medications and other things. i think we're about to see that again. and the country really never rebounded from that. you know, so many of the sanctions that were lifted during the nuclear deal didn't have the effect of opening up the economy the way that the iranian people had hoped. so i think there's going to be a lot of struggle. >> now when you see these military exercises taking place, is that a pre-emptive response to the sanctions that are coming? kind of a thumb to the nose to the president of the united states? or is that a response to the president who says i'm willing to talk, and iran says, you know
what, we're not going to be intimidated. >> well, i think it's a bit of both. i think ultimately, the iranian regime will have to talk to the trump administration at some point. >> really? >> yeah, i think so. the sanctions will create a situation where the economy is so decimated that talks will be necessary. but what the scope of those talks will be remains to be seen. secretary of state pompeo has outlined 12 points that the iranians need to kind of concede to before you can normalize relationships. >> what's the reality of that? >> well, i mean, i think that the reality is that it was a very maximalist approach without a lot of incentives to the iranian regime. i think there will be to be a sort of coming to a middle ground before talks. >> what would be the point of view of iran? what would be its response to the president saying, okay, well, we've gotten rid of this deal under the last administration, you know, now let's talk and cut a new deal,
would iran be receptive to that? >> so far they're not receptive to that. i think it would be difficult for them to come to the table again any time soon because they've said, okay, you walked away from a deal that we were adhering to, how can we trust you to live up to future agreements that we make? i think ultimately, they'll probably have to do that. >> meantime, there are protests, a little bubbling up of protests throughout iran. what's it all about? >> well, i think that the iranian people have shown their discontent with their regime at various points throughout the last 39 years. at this moment, there's discontent around the economy, around freedom of expression, women's rights. as you know, women are subjugated in a lot of ways in iranian society, legally. so against the forced hijab, against water issues.
they're dealing with a lot of crises on different fronts. >> so is this the precipice of perhaps a revolution, something around the corner? >> i wouldn't want to predict that, but i think that the protests aren't going to stop. i think that they'll grow and spread to different parts of the country, but in 2009, if you remember after the contested rhode island election or fraudulent re-election of mahmoud ahmadinejad, you had a very long series of protests that were much more organized than what we're seeing now. >> and that was a real anomaly at the time. so it seems like people now perhaps galvanized from what happened then. jason rezaian, thanks. always good to see you. >> thank you. venezuelan president nicolas maduro surviving a possible assassination attempt as two drones with explosions went off during a speech. maduro blamed what he called far-right elements, including venezuelans living in the u.s.
white house national security adviser john bolton denied any u.s. involvement. >> i can say unequivocally there was no u.s. government involvement in this at all. if the government of venezuela has hard information that they want to present to us that would show a potential violation of u.s. criminal law, we'll take a serious look at it. but in the meantime, i think what we really should focus on is the corruption and the oppression of the maduro regime in venezuela. >> and there are reports that six people have been arrested in connection with that bombing. a heartbreaking story out of new mexico. nearly a dozen children have been found held captive and malnourished wearing nothing but rags. and police say the man responsible may have ab duducte 3-year-old child in georgia. a live report on this developing story moments away. i am all about living joyfully.
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the kids range in ages from 1 to 15 years old. they were found living in conditions no running water, no food, and wearing dirty rags for clothes. the missing toddler was not among the children found. cnn's kaylee hartung has been following this shocking discovery. what more do we know? >> reporter: fred, so many more questions than answers as we learn more about this story and see the truly shocking photos of the living conditions. one of the men arrested is the father of the 3-year-old who's missing. the other man, lucas morton. they were both heavily armed when they were arrested by authorities. when i say heavily armed, i'm talking about ar-15 rifles, four pistols. they had loaded 30-round magazines and a lot of ammunition. this arsenal that they'd stockpiled, along with 11 children and 3 women in this makeshift compound. when i say compound, i want to be clear, this is a small travel trailer buried underground,
covered by plastic. as you can see there. no water, plumbing, or electricity. those two men remain in custody. one is being booked with no bond because of the georgia warrant out for the abduction of his 3-year-old son. these three women were also taken into custody. we don't know much about them. they have been questioned but since released. none of the five adults would share any information with authorities as to where this missing 3-year-old could possibly be located. the description for authorities that we've gotten, you mentioned it, looking like third-world country refugees. the sheriff saying it was the saddest living conditions and poverty he'd ever seen, saying that the authorities who responded on the scene gave the children all of the snacks and water that they had on them. these children are now in the custody of child protective services. and fred, the search for that missing 3-year-old continues. >> shocking indeed.
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it stands for qanon. this video is from the president rally in tampa earlier this week. so what is the message behind that? cnn's gary tuckman has more. >> reporter: waiting in line in a driving rain? very motivated trump supporters wanting to see the president in person in pennsylvania. >> we are q. >> reporter: some of these people wearing and holding the 17th letter of the alphabet. >> are you holding a big red, white, and blue q? why do you have that? >> it's a movement, man. it's a shift. some call it the great awakening. >> reporter: what does that mean? >> it means where we go one, we go all. >> qanon is the people that believe in what trump's trying to do to change our country. >> reporter: that is a generalization, more specifically what qanon is, is a fringe movement in which many baseless conspiracy theories are discussed on the internet, organized around the idea of an anonymous but well-connected person or persons nicknamed q.
your shirt says the storm is here. what does that mean to you? >> i've been following all the posts since october 28th. >> reporter: on the internet? >> yeah. >> reporter: the person or people who say they're q. what do you think q is, by the way? >> it's an entity of ten or less people that have high clearance, security clearance. >> reporter: how do you know that? >> well, i'm just telling you. this is what it appears to be. >> reporter: what it appears to be. so you don't have any proof of that? >> and you don't have any proof there isn't. >> we've all been gathering in one line and talking together as americans and uniting. >> reporter: you think it maybe makes you comfortable talking with other frustrated, sometimes angry people? >> yes, yes. >> reporter: but maybe it's not true because there's no evidence of it. it's stuff being talked about on the internet. >> there hasn't been any nonevidence yet. >> reporter: a major mantra among followers, the press is the enemy.
>> you guys are our enemy. >> reporter: you don't believe in the first amendment? >> i totally believe. >> reporter: you don't. >> you guys are totally weaponized by the cia. >> reporter: by the cia? i don't know anybody in the cia except a couple people i've interviewed over the years. >> that's weird. >> reporter: what does that even mean? you say stuff that doesn't mean anything. do you think i'm weaponized by the cia? >> maybe not to your knowledge. that's unfortunate. >> reporter: you believe there's a deep state? >> yes. >> reporter: what do you think that deep state is doing? running this country? >> i think they were. they're petrified now. because they're losing their control. >> reporter: but donald trump is the president. he's running the country, right? >> yeah, but he's having to fight against the deep state. >> reporter: he said he could do it himself. everything would be so easy. you think he's fighting with the deep state a year and a half into his term? >> i think he's been fighting since before he was elected. >> reporter: who are the people in this deep state? >> i definitely believe the clintons, the bushes, the obamas. >> reporter: so you think they're running this country as we stand here in the rain? >> no. they're trying.
>> reporter: the anonymous q is a hero to many here. one man actually hoping to communicate with q by looking straight into our camera. is it possible you believe in bogus information? >> is it possible i believe in bogus information? i mean, let's see. let's see, q. let's see. >> reporter: gary tuckman, cnn, pennsylvania. >> all right. so much more straight ahead in the newsroom, and it all starts after a quick break. when we're walking and texting, we either can't walk well or text well. most of the injuries are from younger generation. we've seen upwards of 50% increase in the last ten years with distracted walking injuries, both in the emergency department and our clinics. >> i was texting, and i tripped on the stairs. i ended up tearing off part of my toenail. >> we have people coming in with hand injuries, shoulder injuries, back injury, concussions. nearly half of all traumatic brain injuries or concussions actually derive from falls. people have millisecond when is they fall. the number one thing you want to do is protect your head with
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Two London police officers remained hospitalized on Wednesday, a day after suffering “horrifically serious” injuries as they rushed to stop a sword-wielding attacker on a suburban street, the city’s police chief said. Details about the attack emerged a day before London voters go to the polls in local elections where crime and the performance of the capital’s police force are major issues. Commissioner Mark Rowley, who leads London’s Metropolitan Police Service, applauded his officers for running toward danger as they responded to the attack in the northeastern London suburb of Hainault early Tuesday.
Aluminium Bahrain (Alba) has launched its mini-Safety and health campaign ‘Safety is Driven by You’ across its production processes to emphasise on the bottom-up safety communication and address challenges associated with winter.
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an update on a story we're following in india. a young man has been found unconscious but alive by workers after restoring damaged track following friday's falts train derailment. that's according to the cnn affiliate. we're told the man was found near the site of the accident and is being rushed to the hospital for serious head and hand injuries. >> at least 275 people were killed and more than 1,000 in the accident. authorities blame the actions on the high-speed impact. we'll have a live report coming up from the scene on "early start." research offered for lung cancer patients. clinical trial results show a pill taken daily after surgery can consult in half the risk of death from the most common form