he ll be prepared for them as he goes forward. i do think, joe, the most important point this morning is the one you just raised. in my lifetime, i don t recall a presidential race where the conversation around debt and deficits frankly was completely absent. in fact nobody cares. they don t care despite the fact we re coming up on $20 trillion in debt. we ll find ourselves having this conversation when the debt selling debate arises and curious to see republicans who raise concern about the debt ceiling when president obama was in office and even some democrats who raised it will raise it with the same kind of aggressiveness. the majority of americans have made clear this is not the issue that s foremost on their minds. deaf deficits and debt. i think what we re hearing about carrier is a positive thing. he has a lot more to do to
what does your party do? age is not as much of an issue as the fact that there s an agenda. we lost this race. there are some people that say we lost seats in the house and we didn t win senate races and we lost the presidential race because of a tactics game but we didn t get enough people out to vote and we clearly didn t. the core of any get out the vote effort is an inspiring message. an inspiring agenda. we lack that now. i think tim ryan tried to offer that. clearly the caucus decided to stick with ms. pelosi. it s clear it s time for a change and it s clear she s not the future of the party. tim and others in the congress are going to have to not only rally around themselves but rally around a message and an agenda and i hope that democrats understand that we re not going to defeat donald trump or beat back republican proposals by just saying no and by yelling and screaming. if we don t offer substantive, real proposals and answers and counters that speak to the aspirations an
what is his intention with the national guard? everybody keeps avoiding that. why is the national guard being involved right now when he wants to discuss a budget bill? well, it is definitely out of their job description. i ll give you that. that is a story we can follow up on tomorrow. i find it very interesting. it has to be a coordinated effort. on one hand he is telling senators to come back and work and come to the table but the fact is he s got the national guard out there inspecting job sites in case you folks are fired. it s amazing. wisconsin leads the nation in the safest prison system and we are the model for everybody so i sure hope that everybody takes a page out of all of this. three americans that are not professional talking heads but have come out and spoken very well tonight about what real americans are facing in our country. thanks to all three of you. the tea party protesters in wisconsin are financed by people who aren t getting a cut in their take home pay.
larson, and representative fry, i just want to tell the three of you that the country is watching wisconsin, indiana, and ohio. and if you folks cave in to the right wing, it s going to be a hell of a lot easier for other state bodies to do the same thing. the country is watching this story and if the democrats can t fight for wage earners, where s the party? where is the heart and the soul? and i think all of you can give me a little nod if you agree with me on that. this is really about the heart and soul of the progressive movement and workers rights in this country and if we as a party, as a movement, as a philosophy of people and americans, if we can t stand for this now, when is it going to happen? it might not. good luck to all of you and your caucuses and you stay where you have to stay. that s my advice. remember to answer tonight s question there at the bottom of the screen. i want to know what you think. on the front lines, workers
fous amorephous bunch of folks. reverend jackson calls them the turkeys at their own thanksgiving. small government. they don t even know what they re about half of them. the folks in the streets outside the capitols inside the rotunda here in ohio and also in wisconsin, they are very clear what this is about. it is about good jobs, strong communities, the right to organize, and they understand that what is happening in wisconsin in particular is a kind of laboratory for the right. they weren t bussed in. the tea parties were bussed in by the americans for prosperity a group that received some $300,000 in the last year just in wisconsin from the very same right wing foundation that scott walker had the ceo of that foundation as his campaign happening in the midwest. and people know there is a thin, blue union line between poverty and the middle class for americans and that is a word that is getting out. it s not a destablization that s