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gearing up for the presidential rematch that absolutely no one really wanted? as one poll told nwc news, i don't think biden has done much as president. if trump gets elected, i just feel it will be the same thing as it was before biden got elected. and to that point is this low level interest in this year's election due to a broader sense that our political system is broken and that our government isn't representing us. no matter where you fit on the political spectrum. to answer all those questions, life questions i would say, let's bring in the former senior aid for the biden-harris campaign. matthew doughty analyst, and also with us jonathan alter and msnbc contributor. adrian, i'll start with you. just to be clear, i disagree with that assessment. i don't think joe biden and donald trump are the same for this country. i know that was a quote we shared from one person who participated in the poll.

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president biden win, we have 2 men running for president. on message, president trump is running this campaign to the american people in a way like he didn't in 2020 or 2016. you are i have a meeting with lake and riley's family are keeping the border open. or you are letting criminals out of jail. you are either donald trump or joe biden. >> a reminder where donald trump was this weekend. he was in north carolina celebrating the legacy of wounded veterans with the independence fund. i'm honoring her husband in the struggle he's going through. amidst this criminal trial being persecuted on different levels, that man is still serving the public. >> harris: focused on merit mes. he is more determined than ' 16 and 'to any. i could see your point on that. more "outnumbered" in the moment.

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real questions there. on the other side, house speaker and house speaker and mike johnson in a tough spot. he doesn't want to allow russia to redraw the map. is it was the only way to get aid to israel to go through. he said this and that supplemental. we made better because we made this a loan. there are checks and balances in place. mike johnson is in a tough spot. he's a great guy and does not -- >> harris: they split the bills up into 4. mike johnson did. 2 are about ukraine. one was about israel. one in the indo-pacific. 2 are about ukraine. one of them was ukraine solely, one was ukraine with a potential ban on tiktok. you tell me what the priorities are. i think it's in the numbers. i think if you fight for something, and you really mean to fight for something, you take it to the mattresses. i'm not seeing that from either side for our own border as mollie said. if that border fails, the world

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it is an embarrassment. like i said to them and these people were screaming at any other group of people, this would be taking care of. i wishing everybody a happy, happy safe passover. i wishing everybody to pray, to think, to meditate, to scream, yell, bag if you need me to over the freedom of hostages. >> harris: that was michael michaelrapaport. he is also a comedian. he was out there pro israel. you only get half the story, apparently if you are on the other side of that campus -- which is getting all the attention from cops on every body it's dangerous over there. you have people over there who side with hamas. if you walk a few blocks, there are pro israel protesters. look at them. they are carrying american flags. did you see in the american

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you will learn is not true. he told the jury "president trump is innocent. president trump did not commit any crimes. the men hadn't attorney's office should never have brought this trial. you will find he is not guilty." he also said that checks the former president signed where to pay for his legal fees. following his client a frugal businessman saying this was not a payback. he said trump side of the checks he was trying to protect his family and reputation and his brand. we likely going to hear some of david packer's testimony and the next few moments. all the trial will break early today and a half hour from now because one of the alternate jurors as they go to the dentist but certainly we will hear we believe david explain all of this tomorrow as this first trial, criminal trial of a former president has now begun. >> harris: thank you very much. emily, i come to you on this. there's a lot to unpack today.

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people and made the decision the first time. most people aren't changing their minds because you are relitigating something that happened in that long ago and trying to find a place where he could have maybe been illegal and maybe you can convince a jury from manhattan to believe that. if we look at their presidential politics of it, i don't think it hurts him at all. the problem is, does it get a hung jury? does he have to go back for another six weeks? that he can't go and raise money. i think he can get the votes. he can keep the votes are around in the support. he has to be able to raise money to have a staff that i can have a campaign. if they can keep him away from that, that's the bigger issue. >> harris: we witnesses merrily see that play out before november. mollie, there is a maybe for the former president from his perspective a silver lining. he doesn't get to talk about these cases. it is a gag order after gag order on trump on the cases. he does get to talk about what

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innocent. they said the manhattan district attorney's office never should have brought this trial. they went on to say, the 34 counts are 34 pieces of paper. they went through exactly what the d.a. he is arguing, flipped it over and said why would a frugal businessman pay $420,000 on 130,000 debt? this is president trump's name on it. it was cohen and jarchow the lever. they debunked and went through exactly the allegations. they said hush money is not illegal. they spent a serious amount of time, totally impugning cohen for the serial perjurer that he is. they poked so many holes in his credibility. it remains to be seen what happens next. >> harris: we have some breaking news and we went to go to that. walk us through this a little bit. david pecker is our first witness today. he is taking the stand right now. we aren't going to show it, but we do not have producers in the stands. dropping out of that, forgive

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among the pro-hamas group that weren't on fire? michael rapaport. this is interesting because you haven't heard that much from celebrities. i think hollywood has been relatively quiet on this. >> kayleigh: susan sarandon joins anti-israel protests at columbia university. >> harris: at sundown, the jewish faith it will celebrate passover. we will show you this, and we will move on. the other half of the story. >> now to this. the judge and former president ---------------------- -------------------------------- -------------------------'s civil fraud case has ruled on a new challenge from -- when i do have trump's $175 million bond rejected. the court says his bond will stand. here's what the former president had to say ahead of that ruling this morning. >> we have another trial going on right now. letitia james letitia james. she campaigned on the fact --

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