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Different level and quick, and it was a good thing those automatic alerts were in the cockpit, after all, thousands of planes, thousands of planes, chris cross the united states every day. when you see what it looks like, its mind-boggling. not much room up there to make these quick changes. bob francis is former vice chairman of the national transportation safety board and were glad to have him with us today. how are you? >> im fine, thanks. martha: are you surprised to hear this happened or do...