media, and chair of the trans law center. great to see you, again thank you for being with. us thank you so much having me. i am sorry, we never have you on for a good reason, unfortunately. it s always stuff like this. but there is something edo unded about this. there has always been anti antie and demagoguery in this country. but the research you are indicating it tells us a different story. that it is highly orchestrated and it seems to be done with some sort of political motivation behind it. it is not just plain old prejudice which would be bad. there is something else to this. no, i think that s. right what do you have me on virtual reason. but i think you are. right i think there are two motivations that we have to understand they re operating simultaneously. the first is that for the groups that come prize what we call the anti-trans hate machine, they want to see trans people out of public life because it is part of their
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campaign, that is a part of what me and my team called anti-trans hate machine. which is a series of inter institutions in which there is a media operation on the right that is designed to spread disinformation about trans people. and that this is the disinformation is reaching out into the wider public. and there is no response from progressives or on the left to this and to hit trans hate machine to this disinformation, to this propaganda. so, in the absence of response or reply. the disinformation will stand. and that is what s happening. and one of the reasons why the disinformation is able to be so effective, is because we live in a transphobic society. we transphobia is the default position. so, it is something that most people have or experienced. and again, without appealing to counter veiling sediments that people have, around liberty and
have to fight for the right to simply exist. it s a literal life or death battle. so, it isn t actually about bathrooms or teen sports or health care, where americans can still have good faith debates and disagreements. if the bigots get out of the way. it s about standing in solidarity with a marginalized and under fire community. we want to have a good faith discussion about all of this with trans americans. with the people who are also often overlooked by our media. people like a transgender woman in writer who is covered violence against the lgbtq community, including in her newsletter, the present age, she also media critic. journalist another transgender woman, who works to shift the culture of hostility against the trans community, as creator of trends slash media, and the anti-trans hate machine. i recently spoke with parker and about what s happening in america today. thank you both for being