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Honor that sacrifice. i think that america wants to honor that sacrifice also in the way that we do that is by focusing our resources and power towards securing america and the things that make this country great, prosperity, not by muddling along with other strategy, a coherent strategy in afghanistan. >> martha: does that mean potentially staying there and making sure that it is not -- that it doesnt ever become a haven -- essentially the idea that if we pull out the taliban is going to eventu...

David and the taliban today at camp david? >> well, it is a strange ne foeshation fr ati negoschation from the start. and we have been in afghanistan long enough, but at the same time it is a great concern that it could become a haven for terrorists once again, but here is the thing that we had no idea that the congress didnt know what was going on, and the current afghan government didnt know what the negotiations were, and they were one-sided between our diplomat and the taliban. fortunately t...

Between. so you need congressional support and buy-in if we agree with the ultimate result. when the result we want is, yes, to bring our people home but we dont want another re-do of iraq. we left out the right conditions and had to go back. this is about securing the united states and never having a situation where you can have a haven for another attack. >> whatever your political beliefs, i dont think it would startle a lot of people. they would want the committee to be briefed on the conten...

>> was there in april, i was there at easter the year before. so it doesnt seem to get better, but im sure it will get worse if we leave. frankly, i think backing away from where we were just dealing with the taliban is the right thing to do. leaving troops there for right now is the right thing to do. >> how do you tell an exhausted public, though? theres always a reason to stay. you just said, well, it could get worse. it would probably get worse. >> i said it would get worse. and it would get...

Other base. and the military families should take a priority. thats the one middle school on fort campbell, theres no other option for them, and they deserve a quality school go to. >> speak more to the sort of social/emotional element of this. what is that -- why is that so important just to have a, you know, clean, relatively new facility where there arent trash cans catching leaks. why is that so important that they have a haven? >> often at home as a military spouse my own children went to f...

Tribalism must not be allowed to destroy our experiment. big words from general mattis there. lets bring in our panel. byron york, chief political correspondent of the "washington examiner." mollie hemingway, senior editor at "the federalist" and jeff mason, white house corresponded for writers. current secretary said hes going to do these press briefings more regularly, sort of like that defense secretary rumsfeld used to do back in the day. we will see, but on afghanistan, what about what was ...

General dunford, he said were not going to -- he didnt want to use the withdraw word. were not going to withdraw, we currently have 14,000 troops, meaning some number of troops will still be there, and this is a president who promised to get us out in the last campaign and to keep us out of endless wars. so this is not a situation i think where the presidents campaign promises ever going to be kept. >> bret: molly? >> exactly, this has been a war thats been going on for decades. if our war as st...

Offensive. jews have loyalty in american, to the united states of america. they support israel. they recognize and appreciate israel both as a friendly nation, an ally, a democracy in a very dangerous part of the world, and a country that has been a haven for jewish refugees for many, many years. that is not our number one allegiance. thats the united states. i think every jew is offended by the notion that in order that we somehow as jews have to support everything that israel does. we certainl...

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Groups insurgent capabilities are on the rise. joining me now is our msnbc contributor and "the new york times" foreign correspondent who covered organizations like isis and al qaeda extensively over the years. theres always been tension and argument between people who say a group is on the rise. the issue is talking about pulling out of afghanistan, which a lot of americans would support because theres a lot of fatigue over this war and no clear understanding of what success actually looks like...