MSNBC Deadline White House October 11, 2019 20:14:00
In ukraine. are they? >> um, no. i think that what volkers testimony showed us was the strange ways that donald trump conducts off the book foreign policy and has different people playing unofficial roles involved in different things so no one knows the whole picture of whats happening. this is sort of how he does what he does. he was certainly running an off-the-books foreign policy with giuliani where people who shouldve been in the loop didnt know the full picture of what was happening. that ...
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