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Decisions. the difference today as we see it. >> maybe thats partly the difference between politics. there was less transparency. if you look at syria versus the bay of pigs which was kennedys disaster, there was not a public debate about the bay of pigs like there is about syria. this president is operating in a very different environment. >> its interesting when you think about that with the last liberal hawk. its whether they took three years to convince his party to intervene. that situation...

Extraordinary opportunity to talk with just his voice. directly to the american people, no filter. i do not think its enough time because he hasnt engaged earlier on this. but it is an extraordinary opportunity. >> lets talk about the mixed message. earlier today, something else secretary of state john kerry said as he described the strike on syria as an unbelievably small, limited kind of effort. thats kerrys words. unbelievably small. senator john mccain, a supporter of intervention, said that...

>> should you agree the president is not great on pushing this? >> hes tried to be half hawk and half dove. hes not hawkish enough for doves and not dovish enough for the doves. half hawk half dove doesnt fly in washington d.c. thats what were seeing. >> half hearted about it all. >> fair enough. i am shocked to hear republicans -- my whole adult life i never heard of a war they didnt like or military strike they didnt like and to now you have this president adopting mitt romneys policy in syria...

Whether he would interview in somalia. he said, no, because that turned into a nation building exercise and he won the election. after 9/11 you dont see the force of the republican party, apart from neoconservatives, behind humanitarian intervention. you dont. the benghazi answer, i think thats been limited compared to what you heard in the 90s. that was the -- the going theory for every intervention in 90s he was doing to distract from something or other. all scandal led to -- one led to impeac...

Its fascinating. in 2008, barack obama was the dove, hillary clinton was the hawk. if you look at everything -- >> not the dove he just said not iraq, should have been afghanistan. >> that was the public perception. everything hes done since hes been elected, i dont say this in terms of disparaging at all but a continuation of bush policies. >> have you to let me -- i love you but that couldnt be further from the truth. one thing when he got in iraq, he said well bling them home. no, weve got to...

Between clintons where this way they are hedging? >> i think we all tend to assume or the vast majority of people tend to assume everything clintons do is calculated and we go too far on that. this is bill clinton speaking with somebody he liked, john mccain. this was a room with no reporters. its very easy sometimes for former presidents to convince themselves that were among friends this hundred of us with a tape recorder. how is anyone ever going to hear this. again, i cant read his mind and ...

Debating it. meanwhile, theyre packing things into peoples garages that we would be targeting. alan grayson, there is no reason to go through any procedure. the whip counts are overwhelmingly against. this is from a libertarian who says if youre a goper, hawk, voting yes on military action, you might as well start cleaning out your office. politico says if the vote was today, the president would lose big. if he loses big, no matter what he does, he loses big. >> gretchen: he does. >> brian: not ...

Sort of posture as humanitarian interventionists. i think we would also say if we look at all the issues on the presidents plate right now, i do not think the president imagined he would be the president who would be credited with expanding the surveillance state, with getting potentially america involved in another middle eastern country. these things seem almost antithetical to who he is. >> if you read president obamas nobel prize speech, it was tough and it was ballsy. he spoke as an anti-te...

Leverage he has gotten as the g.o.p. leading hawk on syria. forced to deal with mccain and mccain got the. >> my winner is larry summers. the former economic treasurer and secretary. read my column on fortune.com. i will plug it he is the winner because even though there is tremendous he appears to be still in the mix. has a close relationship with the president and could still be the nominee. >> charles? >> you are both wrong. clear winner this week chong chong. can you show his picture? and cl...

Hurdler. second, my name is chris cuomo. im a licensed attorney and can represent this child and this family for all the things certain to come. thats right. so get out of here. number 15. >> thank you. >> that was a good move regardless. all right, coming up next on "new day." they say a picture is worth a thousand words so were asking an expert to break down the body language between these two men, president obama, vladimir putin, what exactly is going on there and whats going through their mi...