[inaudible conversations] please welcome dr. Carla hayden and susan orlean. [applaus [applause] well, i have to start by, im carla Hayden Library of congress and i want to thank jamie and feline and the angels and the readers for allowing me to be with someone who hassle evaluat evaluated elevated libraries to such an extent. Thank you. Let me say there have been patron saints of libraries, Andrew Carnegie and stuff like that, about you you are now number one. I finally smacked down Andrew Carnegie. You have. Thats great. How does it feel to be the patron saint of librarians . When i started this book, i couldnt have anticipated that part of it. I was drawn in to the story because i really wanted to understand what happened in 1986 that this epic fire that closed the l. A. Library for several years, but more importantly, i wanted to understand why i cared about it so much. I ive often said to me if city hall burned down, i would have thought thats too bad and i assume theyll rebuild it