collects big bucks from freddie mac. mr. rick perry create as million new jobs, taxes, redices regulations, and the proven governor. neil: did it help rick perry? guest: it did. because unlike most of the negative ads, rick perry ended on the positive, saw the last 15 or 20 seconds what rick perry has done and he was criticizing the other candidates for not doing and it goes great black, to white to color and the last shot, as you said, it is not just the words but the visuals, a compelling visual. neil: and the visual of romney being in a position where he can be above the fray but still saying this is romney. what makes president obama happy? gingrich with more baggage than the airline. freddie mac helped cause the economic collapse but gingrich
state every state, and romney swept the tail he would have to continue to do so until april 24th before capturing enough delegates to be the nominee. april 24th is the first possible time anybody can clinch this officially and that is assuming they win it all. so it will be a while before we know the formal winner. neil: gingrich lashing out at the negatives. guest: he has been quite popular pulling troops out. neil: we exclude up. pollster frank luntz were saying the ads that attack positions come back to haunt the guys in question. what do you make of that, frank, how damaging are the ads? guest: they have taken newt down. before the ads came in he was in the mid-30 s and now at most polls he is in the low teens and
neil: your grandfather doesn t have to put up with so many primaries in caucus states when he ran for president. how do you think he would survive this process today? guest: well, it is true that there were different sorts of challenges when you dealt withcy gar filled with thecy gar with the cigar-filled rooms. he was about communication with the american people and letting them know what we were up against and what we needed to do. neil: but how would he do in iowa, with his back ground, one of the richest families in the country and married to one of the richest families in the country, how would he do? would he beat romney if his day in iowa? guest: i think he had a genuine feel for the average middle-class and working american and that would make the difference and i know it did
cashed in. freddie mac paid newt $30,000. an hour. $1.6 million. neil: this is the type of ad that gingrich was explaining early today he thought that romney should disavow although it has nothing to do with . he felt romney should say the ad was not fair or right but it does damage. guest: here s the key. everyone knows the word bargain. i have been here for 96 hours and i probably have talked about maybe 125 people a day, and at least a third use the phrase baggage, to describe gingrich. they respect him. think he is brilliant but there is that one word that makes them hesitant and in iowa caucus, if there is hesitation, they don t vote for you. neil: all right, frank, stay
along at 35 percent so the most consistent need to be debunking statements would be those of romney. neil: what if the republicans are eager to look at president s con sis attend, for example, getting more jobs than he has generated and seeing more response, positive response, to the national health care plan he put out than he is getting today? guest: i would expect the republican nominee, whoever it is, to take on each of those issues and take them on strong. i think the president will make the case about the fact there has been private sector job growth in each of the last 20 1/2 months, 2.2 million net growth in private sector jobs in the last 20 1/2 months. neil: but net overall job loss down 3 million. guest: job loss, if that