of marketing that the truth doesn t matter. so he gets out there and says there was no attack. it s all a hoax. it s all a witch hunt. he knows 30% of his people, the people who he said would stick with him even if he shot someone on fifth avenue will accept his reality. and i heard this frustration in heidi s voice when she spoke a few minutes ago. how had do you break through that, how do you have a set of facts you can talk about and deal with them and have a true national discourse. trump is doing everything possible to make sure we can t have an honest debate because he can t survive one. this morning came after a former top intelligence official, five officials expressed concern how is the investigation is becoming politicized. when congressional oversight is focused on counter intelligence investigations we worry about inappropriate political influence on the investigators and the erosion of a bipartisan approach to intelligence and
the migration away from public forums has been going on now for months despite complaints from constituents and local media. heidi priz bow la is atical rep today. michael steele. let me go to heidi. your piece is that who are the people that are holding meetings and letting people come in and really hit them hard over obamacare because they re trying to get rid of it and they voted on it, and who are the ones who are not even don t even have the guts to face the public right now? chris, like you saw, there s a number of safe republicans who are going out there and facing their constituents, and then there s this whole other category of more moderate republicans. i d seen a number of editorials across the country basically calling out members for not holding town halls. i thought, well, there must be something to this. so i looked at some of those moderate republicans who actually cast a vote on health care. there were three different committees that voted on health care even thoug
out president trump. again, that s unclear and too premature at this time to really make that decision which is what the house and senate intelligence committees have said. molly hooper, great to have you with us. heidi priz ball la, great to see you as well. thank you. under fire, new epa head scott pruitt is trying to roll back epa protections. ahead this morning, an interview with house minority leader nancy pelosi sitting down with joy coming up.
story about a spy on the campaign. this is donald trump and all his minions creating alternative realities. just fake facts to get out there to distract from the core issue, russia attacked this country and while russia was attacking this country during the 2016 campaign, the trump campaign was sending out positive signals to russia and denying to the public that this attack was under way. every moment they throw up one of these confusing narratives, it distracts and keeps us from talking about the real thing itself. now it s degrading the justice department. heidi, how do you as a reporter keep the focus away from this reality trump keeps creating? he is running a fake presidency. this whole thing doesn t exist any more than the birther thing existed. it s madeup stuff, all the stuff david just mentioned is fabricated, fake. yet, it s covered because the
jones and msnbc political analyst, heidi priz ba la, and seth waxman, a former federal prosecutor. david, this is a rabbit holy think. i think the justice department has been drawn down into the rabbit hole. i don t know why they agreed to this meeting or talking about their evidence. the president is the defendant in this case in all effects. why are they giving his lawyer access to the meeting, his chief of staff access to the meeting, and why are they even meeting with these people? they re investigating them. i ve never heard of investigators meeting with the people they re investigating to go over their evidence to see if it s okay that they use it. it s extraordinary. it s a continuation of what we ve seen for over a year now. first they said unmasking was the real scandal. it wasn t. then they said obama bugging trump was the scandal. no, it wasn t. fisa warrant, uranium one and now it s this phony baloney