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Joining us now, josh fox. you did a brilliant job setting that up and its a laughing matter when you have that tape. lets say i didnt have it. >> thats the great question. if you didnt have that tape, the one little bit that they showed sounded like, sure, mysterious saudi oil tycoon. bring it on. >> this is the case. why did i record this? i recorded this because it looked shady. it looked like a scam. it looked like entrapment. there was a website attached. there were fake identities. there wa...

Lets say i didnt have it. >> thats the great question. if you didnt have that tape, the one little bit that they showed sounded like, sure, mysterious saudi oil tycoon. bring it on. >> this is the case. why did i record this? i recorded this because it looked shady. it looked like a scam. it looked like entrapment. there was a website attached. there were fake identities. there was an entire web of deception that they spun to tell this tale. >> tell me how this happened. >> they started sending ...

Just think if you go back to the intent of the founders and all of the periods since, its much more nuance than that. >> in the dissent, theres a case made that there was tons of regulation and tons of understanding of the second amendment that it wasnt an individual right. >> thats right. to me i think we cant imagine we can go back in a time machine and ask james madison how should we deal with issues of guns or much else in the country these days? we have to consider the original intent absol...

Idea that you have to go back to the intent of the founders and i just think if you go back to the intent of the founders and all of the periods since, its much more nuance than that. >> in the dissent, theres a case made that there was tons of regulation and tons of understanding of the second amendment that it wasnt an individual right. >> thats right. to me i think we cant imagine we can go back in a time machine and ask james madison how should we deal with issues of guns or much else in the...

Front, a divisive issue here, but he basically said we need to amend the constitution just to reclarify what everyone already knows, which is that gun rights were about militias, not people walking around with the right to bear any kind of weapon anywhere they go. >> yeah. he was very, very clear about that, ari. he sort of wants to reinsert the militia clause that is understood or certainly was understood until the heller case. >> yeah, forever. >> and just was really very clear in saying look,...

Making up his mind to this day, and then you look at what he said on the second amendment front, a divisive issue here, but he basically said we need to amend the constitution just to reclarify what everyone already knows, which is that gun rights were about militias, not people walking around with the right to bear any kind of weapon anywhere they go. >> yeah. he was very, very clear about that, ari. he sort of wants to reinsert the militia clause that is understood or certainly was understood ...

Vulnerable, keeping the peace means keeping a piece. >> oh, i see what you did there. >> a little play on words. havent done that before. >> andrea, is this because most of the facts -- the judge is basically saying the facts that gun control advocates use arent bearing out anything real? more legalized guns doesnt mean more gun murder? >> i think this judge is specifically looking at precedent from the supreme court, if you look at the heller case. it says you cannot -- you can have -- you cant...

Vulnerable, keeping the peace means keeping a piece. >> oh, i see what you did there. >> a little play on words. havent done that before. >> andrea, is this because most of the facts -- the judge is basically saying the facts that gun control advocates use arent bearing out anything real? more legalized guns doesnt mean more gun murder? >> i think this judge is specifically looking at precedent from the supreme court, if you look at the heller case. it says you cannot -- you can have -- you cant...

Are legal? >> you said the key word there which was reasonable. we dont believe these are reasonable. the magazine ban basically outlaws the position of all magazines. they are saying any magazine that can be readily adjusted for cleaning is illegal. >> gregg: i thought with anything with 15 rounds or more? >> no, what it says any magazine that can be readily modified will be illegal. any magazine that you possess can be readily modified because you can clean that magazine. you can take the spri...

Limits of the second amendment. republicans pretend their favorite supreme court justice, antonin scalia has not said public that it of course allows restrictions to be placed. they pretend the court did not make that clear in the heller case. they pretend the only words ever written about the second amendment are in the second amendment. >> the government should not punish or harass law-abiding citizens in the exercise of their second amendment rights. >> anyone who is true conservative, whethe...