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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211129 04:39:00

that s a little scary. yeah, it is scary. todd was holding ariel, and don was holding alex. and todd came up, he looks just a wreck. todd confronted me, he said, rachel and i aren t divorced yet, and i would appreciate it if you would stay away from her. and? nope. you said no? i said no. there was a pause. if something was going to happen, this would be the moment. and then he turns to me and he goes, hi katelynn. i was like, get off this property. and suddenly, it was over. todd and don and the kids got back into the land cruiser and drove off. what was the feeling like as this was going on? the feeling for me was, god, i hope that this clears the air. i think you know, he he s asked him to stay away so maybe he ll stay away and maybe they can figure out what to do. was it a civilized conversation? yes. yes, very. they didn t yell at each other? no. didn t stare daggers no. there was zippo.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211129 04:49:00

where you re at. james daughter katelynn got a message at school. i walk outside, and i call a family friend, and he goes, are you sitting down? i think you need to sit down, katelynn. i was like, what s going on? and all i remember is just dropping to the ground. rachel s friend shannon couldn t believe what she read online. i found out through facebook. i was scrolling and saw someone post something, r.i.p. rachel. all right. and i was like, what the hell is going on? so then i called her younger brother, and he said somebody came into her house and murdered her. and i said, what do you mean somebody came into her house and murdered her? coming up rachel s death threat. what hat half not that in house? an eyewitness account from todd. get the children out of here.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210809 06:39:00

that s a little scary. yeah, it is scary. todd was holding ariel, and don was holding alex. and todd came up, he looks just a wreck. todd confronted me, he said, rachel and i aren t divorced yet, and i would appreciate it if you would stay away from her. and? nope. you said no? i said no. there was a pause. if something was going to happen, this would be the moment. and then he turns to me and he goes, hi katelynn. i was like, get off this property. and suddenly it was over. todd and don and the kids got back into the land cruiser and drove off. what was the feeling like as this was going on? the feeling for me was, god, i hope that this clears the air. i think you know, he he s asked him to stay away so maybe he ll stay away and maybe they can figure out what to do.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210809 06:48:00

one of the neighbors reached rachel s father. and i get a phone call from a screaming, irrational voice on the other end. i said, is it rachel? yes, it s rachel. i said, i have a question for you. is there a yellow ribbon around the property? yes. is there a big white van in front of the house? yes. don was in the middle of moving. the movers tried to calm him down. and the guys says, we don t know that she s dead. i said, count on it, he killed her. and i got there and, you know, she was gone. he was right to be begin with. rachel was dead. the horrific news spread. i got a call from a friend and i said, it can t be. and the next thing i knew, i woke up on the floor. you fainted? i completely blacked out, hit the floor. so i called the sheriff s department and asked them if they knew what was going on. and they said just stay right where you re at. james daughter katelynn got a message at school. i walk outside, and i call a family friend, and h

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20191129 05:39:00

that you were gonna shoot them. perhaps. and i can t remember whether or not todd actually went to the door with the kid or i went to the door or whatever. but he was a human shield. he was gonna stop the bullets, reporter: that s a little scary. yeah, it is scary. todd was holding ariel, and don was holding alex. and todd came up, he looks just a wreck. todd confronted me, he said, rachel and i aren t divorced yet, and i would appreciate it if you would stay away from her. reporter: and? no. reporter: you said, no ? i said, no. reporter: there was a pause. if something was going to happen, this would be the moment. and then he turns to me and he goes, hi katelynn. i was like, get off this property. reporter: and suddenly, it was over. todd and don and the kids got back into the land cruiser and drove off. what was the feeling like as this was going on? the feeling for me was, god, i hope that this clears the air.

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