particularly effective way to terrorize through very simple means. they have mastered this over the past couple of years. as opposed to a spectacular attack. think of 9/11. they ve put out these beheading videos which are really uniquely horrifying and they have chosen to go after soft targets, not the kinds of places not the world trade center, not the main tourist sites, not the historical sites but the every day, the ordinary. the idea is to terrorize, the idea is to make people feel insecure in every day life as you put it. hillary, how does the united states and allies and french go about when it comes to these soft targets and our anti-terror campaign? well, there is a long track record, not just with isis but al qaeda before it, not just about the world trade center but with the london tube, the london subway system, the spanish subway system. these groups deliberately targeting these types of sites in order to put pressure on
certainly a big night last night for bernie sanders in talking about an and attacking hillary clinton as far as her vote to authorize the invasion of iraq. pre-friday night, pre-paris attacks, it would have seemed like hillary clinton had a strength in foreign policy with her time as secretary of state. now we see it as an opportunity to attack when it comes to bernie sanders. how effective was he in doing that? i think bernie was reasonably effective but i think it was more that hillary did not seem to be really on her game last night. it s odd, you would have thought before these attacks in france that hillary would be more comfortable being on foreign policy issues that bernie s strength was the economy and inequality and that sort of thing. but hillary s in a very tough spot now. she s going to be slammed from the right by the republicans who feel that the obama administration has not done enough to sotop the rise of isi
politically a move to shut borders and people need to take a breath and think about the numbers. justin and hillary, to both of you, thank you for your time. what we re learning about some of the suspects in these attacks and how and who they could affect policy here and in europe. next.
i don t think they re gaining strength. what is true is that from the start our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. they have not gained ground in iraq, and in syria they ll come in, they ll leave. but you don t see this systematic march by isil across the terrain. the next day, as we know, isis took credit for its largest attack yet in a western country. so it begs the question have we underestimated isis? with me in new york, bob herbert, distinguished senior fellow for demos, and joining me from philadelphia, malcolm nance, executive director of terror ace metrics project. again from washington, d.c., hillary mann-leveritt. hillary, when you talk about this attack coming on the heels
bernie sanders criticized hillary clinton for her vote to authorize the invasion of iraq in 2003. well, in fact i would argue that the disastrous invasion of iraq, something that i strongly opposed, has unraveled the region completely and led to the rise of al qaeda and to isis. i don t think any sensible person would disagree that the invasion of iraq led to the massive level of instability we are seeing right now. i think that was one of the worst foreign policy blunders in the modern history of the united states. here s former secretary of state clinton s response. i have said the invasion of iraq was a mistake. but i think if we re ever going to really tack many the problems posed by jihadi extreme terrorism, we need to understand it and realize that it has an