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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111029:20:27:00

car. at this point there s a lot of fury between them. they re barely talking as they drive all the way from kansas to oklahoma city and then back again. and at this point mcveigh s thinking to himself, i still need terry nichols to help me build the bomb. i was the principal planner for this. i did manipulate people, including terry nichols. on the way back from dropping off the getaway car in oklahoma city, nichols drives mcveigh to the dreamland motel in junction city, kansas, a short distance from his own home. two days later, mcveigh hitches a ride to elliott s auto shop and rents the ryder truck that will act as the vessel for the bomb. all the pieces are in place and ready to go. mcveigh also settles on a specific date for the bombing. the two most significant events in the history that occurred april 19th, to me, was not just one, waco, but, number

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111029:21:21:00

city, bomber testimonithy mcveigh is approaching his getaway car, a car he purchased for $250. a car so broken down that it nearly strands mcveigh, threatening to hinder his getaway. i got in the car, cranking it over, i pumped the gas like one half pump, i m thinking [ muted ], you re smelling gas, you re draining the battery, it s flooded, hold it to the floor. it started right up, so i m gunning it, trying to warm it up, it s not going anywhere. i m, okay, i m about five minutes from the blast, you don t want to be apprehended in oklahoma city five minutes after. it s fairly remarkable to listen to him talking about how he finally gets the thing started. meanwhile, there s absolute carnage behind him. but then he pulls that old beater onto the highway. i pulled out, stopped at every stoplight in all directions.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111029:20:02:00

his version of events using new facial replacement technology, we transform recreation shot with actors into visuals that graphically place mcveigh into the very scenes he describes. drawing from 45 hours of exclusive audiotapes, we ll go deeper than ever thought possible into the mindset of this calculating killer. people have compared oklahoma city to pearl harbor as far as the impact of a psyche on the american people. one of the chief intentions was the same as dropping the bomb on hiroshima. what was that? to say, listen. if you don t knock it off, there s more of this to come. this is one kid who got it in his head that he could play god. when mcveigh talks about the actual bombing, he s not almost bragging, he s boasting completely. but, you know, what the guy is talking about is mass murder on an incredible scale, including the murder of children. first of all, i believe there is no hell.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111029:21:53:00

going. on july 13th, 1999, timothy mcveigh is transferred to the federal death row unit inter a hoet, indiana. this is his final stop before execution. despite never admitting guilt to the courts, mcveigh claims ending up on death row is exactly how he planned it. death is not a penalty, it s an escape. i recognized that, well before i was driving away from oklahoma city on the morning of april 19th without a lps plate. i in fact may be in a sense a ground breaker in a new suicide by cop. to take all these people with you, that it makes a point they illustrate something for me is the height of vanity and selfishness. it is beyond words.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111029:21:25:00

traffic counts. mcveigh is handcuffed, taken to the nearest local lockup in the small town of perry, oklahoma. he s charged with misdemeanors of driving a vehicle without plates, and carrying a weapon without a permit. at booking, mcveigh is calm and unassuming. i talked to the people who booked him in. nice boy, not nervous, didn t show any inkling. this kid can mask what s going on inside of him very well. mcveigh is booked about two hours after the bombing and still doesn t know the degree of damage he has inflicted. but while waiting for a cell to become available. he catches sight of a television, showing images of the carnage. it was at the perry courthouse when they were booking me in, right?

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