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Tricare from the pentagon when theyre faced with that? >> well, what our reporting found was that tricares stance is we just dont have the science to back this up. and -- >> but the science exists though. its not -- its not somewhere hidden away. i found it easily. anybody could find it. >> yeah, exactly. and that washat our reporting turned up. they were relying on this one study when there was this mountain of other evidence that said it is effective and does work. i think tricare is proceedin...