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tonight, the news coming in late today, reports pfizer is now in talks with the u.s. government to provide tens of millions of additional doses of the vaccine. and that new variant of the virus. they're now testing for it here in new york. all of this as the nation now marks the deadliest year in american history. we're now seeing an average of more than 2,600 american lives lost every day. as concerns mount tonight over that new variant of covid. the testing in new york and the new steps from some airlines to test passengers for flights from the uk to the u.s. but tonight, dr. anthony fauci saying we must assume it's already here in the u.s., as he gets his own vaccine shot before the cameras. and that news tonight, pfizer reportedly nearing a deal with the trump administration for more doses and what we know so far. hospitals tonight under growing pressure. we have an alarming look inside.
and now, the fears that the millions traveling for christmas will lead to another deadly surge. potentially even worse than what we saw after thanksgiving. the breaking news as we come on the air in the west tonight. the trump and the action he's now taken tonight. jon karl standing by with late reporting. and president-elect joe biden addressing the american people this afternoon, just days before christmas, telling americans that even with these two vaccines, the darkest days in this pandemic are still ahead of us, in these winter months. and what he said about getting more help to americans after inauguration. and his message tonight to president trump after the massive cyber attack on the u.s. government and on u.s. companies. the case and the images tonight. the 71-year-old black man ordered out of his south carolina home by police, naked and at gunpoint. police were looking for someone else. we're tracking that storm system moving across the country tonight, and what we're now expecting for christmas eve and christmas day. and then what comes in right after.
rob marciano timing it out. your holiday gifts. news on shipping tonight. same-day delivery on christmas eve? what we've now learned. and our made in america. so many small businesses across this country and the gift you have already given them. good evening and it's great to have you with us here on this tuesday night. just a couple of nights until christmas, of course, and we have news on pfizer reportedly nearing a deal tonight with the trump administration on tens of millions of new doses of the vaccine. and the testing here in the u.s. now, here in new york, for that new variant of the virus. so far, scientists say there is no evidence that these vaccines won't work against it. and all of this comes amid that headline from the associated press this afternoon, that 2020 is now the deadliest year in u.s. history. more than 3 million american lives lost.
covid, the third-leading cause of death behind heart disease and cancer and as you know, there have been several weeks this year when it was the leading cause of death. and the number soaring again today. the u.s. now reporting more than 322,000 deaths. the country now averaging more than 2,600 deaths every 24 hours. tonight, "the new york times" reporting pfizer is nearing that deal. millions more doses for the u.s. what the company is now saying tonight. and new reporting here on what could be a more contagious variant of covid, though they are still studying this. and what some airlines are now doing before flights from the uk to the u.s. and new york tonight ordering hospitals across the state to test specifically for this variant. dr. anthony fauci getting the vaccine today before the cameras, saying the variant is likely already here in the u.s. and tonight, the u.s. suffering through its worst month since march now, reporting an astounding 1 million new cases in just four days. abc's stephanie ramos leading us off tonight.
>> reporter: tonight, a major deal reportedly in the works to get tens of millions more vaccines to americans. according to "the new york times," pfizer is negotiating with the u.s. government to deliver as many as 110 million much-needed doses between april and june of next year. now, both pfizer and moderna testing their vaccines to make sure they're effective against the new mutation rapidly spreading in the uk. so far, indications are they both still work. tonight, officials in new york now testing to see if the strain has made it here. >> we want to test for the variant. if it's here, we want to know it. we want to isolate it immediately. >> reporter: but top coronavirus task force members warning the potentially more contagious variant is likely already in the u.s. >> when you have this amount of spread within a place like the uk, that you really need to assume that it's here already. >> reporter: the white house now considering a mandate for anyone
traveling from the uk to test negative before flying. three airlines will begin testing passengers on flights to new york christmas eve. early evidence suggests the mutated virus may be as high as 70% more contagious, but more studies need to be done. >> viruses mutate all the time. that doesn't mean that a vaccine won't work. >> reporter: in a move to boost confidence in the vaccine, dr. anthony fauci getting his moderna injection today. >> i want to encourage everyone who has the opportunity to get vaccinated, so that we can have a veil of protection over this country that would end this pandemic. >> the public effort to reassure the american people. stephanie back with us tonight. and i want to turn back to that news late today, stephanie, the report about a deal for tens of millions of additional doses from pfizer for the coming spring. what's pfizer saying so far tonight? >> reporter: well, david, pfizer has just provided us with a statement, i'll read it to you. "we continue to work collaboratively with the u.s.
government to get doses of our covid-19 vaccine to as many americans as possible. the company is not able to comment on any confidential discussions that may be taking place with the u.s. government." david? >> stephanie, i know you'll stay on this. thank you tonight. and with christmas almost here, travel here in the u.s. is now the busiest we've seen since the start of this pandemic. the tsa now reporting that screening has happened for more than 4 million passengers over just the last four days. tonight, authorities are now fearing a surge worse than what we saw after thanksgiving and the hospitals, as you're about to see, are already crushed across this country. the front line doctors and nurses and what they're seeing and the tens of thousands of patients they're trying to save. here's kaylee hartung. >> reporter: tonight, a shocking look inside this california hospital, bursting at the seams with the sick, amid dire new warnings that a post-christmas covid surge could cripple the system. patients filling the hallways and they just keep coming. >> i think it's only going to
get worse before it gets better. >> reporter: doctors and nurses running from room to room. st. mary medical center in apple valley overwhelmed. this horrifying video taken by "the washington post." across the country, a record pe virus in the hospital. >> what we saw after thanksgiving, we're probably going to see worse after christmas. >> reporter: in california, more than 32,000 new infections today alone. they're preparing for the worst here at uc irvine medical center, building out a massive field hospital to care for the crush of patients. >> we're building it so that if the time is needed, we can have up to 50 patients out here. as soon as maybe the end of the year, if we are on schedule. >> reporter: and with christmas just days away, california health officials begging people to avoid large gatherings. >> we will get through this. each individual decision we make is a lifesaver. >> reporter: holiday travel already setting records. more than 4 million people flying since friday. and tonight, officials confirming the man who collapsed on this flight from orlando to los angeles and later died had covid-19.
this video obtained by tmz. the cdc now contacting passengers who may have been exposed. in tennessee, cinde and rick lucas won't be able to spend the holidays together. he's been fighting for his life in the hospital for the last five months. >> every person that we hear that dies, that's not just a number. it is a person. and it is a family. and it is grandchildren. and it is employees and friends. it's not just a number. >> we agree with her and we try to say that every night, behind every one of these numbers is a family forever changed. kaylee is with us in orange, california, from that field hospital. and kaylee, health officials were warning today that even small intimate gatherings, sharing the same air in small surroundings, also appear to be driving the spread of this virus and they're now pleading with americans to stay home for the holidays. >> reporter: that's right, david. here and across the country, so many hospitals are already at or near capacity. that's why this surge tent is being built.
so, now officials in california are saying, over the next ten days, let's all make choices that we will never regret. david? >> and that's incredible. those are not tents or campers, that's a hospital they're setting up in orange, california, tonight. kaylee, thank you. president-elect joe biden addressing the american people this afternoon, just days before christmas, telling americans that even with these two vaccines, that the darkest days in this pandemic are still ahead of us in these winter months. and his message to president trump tonight after that massive cyber attack on the u.s. government and on u.s. companies. here's our white house correspondent rachel scott tonight. >> reporter: in a twitter video late tonight, president trump announcing he will not sign the covid-19 relief bill just passed by congress. >> send me a suitable bill. >> reporter: demanding lawmakers increase the $600 direct payments to $2,000, after they've already left for the holidays. the administration already promising those checks would go out next week to americans. hours earlier, president-elect joe biden with a stark warning
for the country. >> i'm going to tell you the truth. and here's the simple truth -- our darkest days in the battle against covid are ahead of us, not behind us. >> reporter: biden telling americans the upcoming holidays will once again look a lot different for his family, too, saying there is no time to waste in taking steps to turn the crisis around. outlining the challenges he will face on his first day in office, biden saying congress did its job this week, but expecting it to do even more for americans in the new year. it took more than six months for congress to reach this new deal. how can you assure americans that relief will come and come soon? >> i predict to you, we'll get cooperation and get that done. >> reporter: his sharpest words for president trump on the issue of that unprecedented cyber attack on the u.s. government and many u.s. companies. biden blasting the president for failing to respond when trump's own team, his secretary of state and a.g., have pointed to russia.
>> this assault happened on donald trump's watch, when he wasn't watching. it's still his responsibility, as president, to defend american interests for the next four weeks. but rest assured that even if he does not take it seriously, i will. >> let's get right to rachel. rachel, you were on the air with me this afternoon as we watched the president-elect. joe biden putting pressure on the current president to single out russia in this massive cyber attack, also pledging to get more covid relief to the american people after inauguration, saying that what we saw this week is just the start. but rachel, there is also news coming in tonight on vice president-elect kamala harris's senate seat. california governor gavin newsom calling alex padilla, who is the current california secretary of state, to ask him to serve in the senate to replace her. padilla emotional there, saying he was honored, humbled, because of his parents, immigrants from mexico. his dad working at a cook, his mom as a house cleaner. and rachel, this appointment is history-making.
>> reporter: it is, david. padilla will be california's first latino senator. but the departure of kamala harris does leave a void there in the chamber. harris was the only black woman currently serving in the u.s. senate. david? >> rachel scott tonight, thank you. and of course, there's that late news coming in tonight from the white house. late decisions from president trump tonight and here's our chief white house correspondent jonathan karl. >> reporter: with just four weeks left in his presidency, president trump late tonight granted 15 pardons and five commutations. among them, full and unconditional pardons for two congressmen who have had been forced to resign, including chris collins of new york, who was the first member of congress to endorse trump's first presidential campaign. he is currently serving a 26-month prison sentence for insider trader. and former representative duncan hunter of california, another trump supporter who had pleaded guilty of misusing campaign funds. the president is also granting a full pardon to two of those
charged in connection with robert mueller's special counsel investigation. george papadopoulos and alex vander swan. also on the list, four members of the blackwater company committed of atrocities in iraq. this is the first big group of pardons since the election, but it won't be the last. i expect we'll see many more pardons between now and january 20th. david? >> jon karl reporting tonight. jon, thank you. we're going to move onto other news this tuesday night and to the case and the images tonight. the 71-year-old black man ordered out of his south carolina home by police, naked and at gunpoint. it turns out police were actually looking for someone else. here's janai norman. >> reporter: tonight, disturbing video showing an innocent, elderly man, naked, ordered out of his south carolina home at gunpoint by police. >> rock hill police, let me see your [ bleep ] hands.
let me see your [ bleep ] hands. >> reporter: the video from june 2019 shows 71-year-old jethro devane standing in a doorway, telling police he lives there, as the officer points a gun at him, though he's done nothing wrong. >> who else is in here? >> me. >> just you? >> i live here. i did what the man said. he's got the weapon, i don't. he could've took my life in a minute. >> reporter: police were reportedly searching for four kids who'd allegedly broken into a car nearby. rock hill police releasing a statement, saying they thought the kids could have run inside what appeared to be an abandoned residence, and that devane was "detained by officers for safety." and david, devane has filed a lawsuit. the officers involved have not been disciplined, but this come just days after body camera footage from chicago police showed officers storming into the wrong home, guns drawn, and handcuffing a naked woman. those officers are on administrative leave. david? >> all right, janai norman with us live in new york. janai, thank you.
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Reports-pfizerAbc-worldwide-newsUsGovernmentMillionsDosesTensTalksVaccineVariantVirusAl-l bars in clark county. >> you have potential victory is lying in those sales at least for now. i want to i guess is it makes a huge difference night, i step toward voters like elliot carver hall having their voices heard, it felt a little bit of empowerment, a little slow, a little tiny bit sara marie joins us now from las vegas. >> so this is the first time he's running boost had been used. how did the process go? >> it went pretty smoothly, although there were voters who showed up to vote and found out they were actually registered in a different county or in some cases, in a different state, which is negating the education gap that still exist for those who are behind bars. there were dozens of folks who wanted to vote from the jail today and we expect that that's going to number is going to be even longer when we get to the general election in november. this was sort of a dry run for the big event coming up, anderson be interesting to do polling and see if they're running for it? >> sir, maria, thanks so much in news continues. the source of kaitlan collins starts now i'm kaitlin collins. >> welcome to the source tonight. president biden wasn't scheduled to be back home in wilmington or what happened? inside the delaware courtroom earlier, abruptly changed his plants is only surviving son, hunter biden was convicted on all three felony gun charges just that he was facing today. hours later, hunter biden was standing on the tarmac, as you can see here, to greet his father when marine one landed in delaware it was striking to see the two of them embrace for the first time since that guilty verdict came down. >> in his only comment so far on the matter, president biden said, in part in his statement i am the president, but i am also a dad because he also praised his son for overcoming a battle with drug addiction. >> but this conviction also comes in the middle of a presidential election. there was also a message tonight and biden statement regarding his role as president he said that he will accept the outcome of this case, that he does accepted and they also respect the judicial process, seeming to reiterate a promise that he made last week that he won't part in. hunter biden but as biden balances both being an english parent and president in-between the verdict and that we're union that you just saw there on the tarmac. >> he also gave a speech on gun safety in washington it's time once again, do what i did when i was a senator, ban assault weapons before that speech, that was preplanned. i should note before the verdict came down this morning, it was in the delaware courtroom where the jury's decision on hunter biden was unanimous, guilty but notably three jurors told cnn after that they question whether or not these charges should have been brought at all a fourth, that was known to only us as juror number ten, said no politics were at play when they were deliberating their decision pressure, inviting never really even came in to play for me. you kinda put that out of your mind. politics was not even spoken about the first family was not even spoken about. it was all it was all about hunter and of course, as we know it, as far from over for hunter biden, he is facing sentencing on the gun conviction that is going to come at the height of the general presidential election and another potentially even more serious trial on tax charges. >> this fall. >> few people know more about the personal toll that this is taken on president biden than my source tonight. >> evan owls knows is one of the country's foremost biden biographers and a cnn contributor. he is the author of joe biden, their life, the run and what matters now and having joins me now, i mean, there's basically no precedent for what we are seeing right now. a president's a sitting president's immediate family member has never been convicted on any kind of crime while they were in office. and i just wonder what you make of it, what stood out to you have how president biden reacted today? >> yeah, it is something extraordinary to see. i mean, he is balancing these two distinct roles as father and as president and on some level, this combination of private life and public life has been at the center of his relationship with hunter since hunter was a baby after all you remember, of course, his mother was killed in that car accident when he was a toddler, joe biden at that point was between being elected and being sworn into the senate his hunters entire life has been in some ways straddling the struggles, the privileges, the choices, the risks that come with that. and i think of this tonight is a moment in some ways, it's part of this long arc, this really sort of epic american political story. yeah. i mean, the family seemed surprised when this came down today. >> it did it happened relatively quickly. hunter biden himself is not even at the courthouse today and you saw them them rushing back in there and including the first lady, jill biden. but after we didn't see any of this anguish or they're real response in front of the cameras. at least we saw the embracing the tarmac what do you think it's like behind closed doors and wilmington tonight? yeah. they've got abundant experience of tragedy on some level, and tragedy is not to be exculpatory here when nobody and least of all, joe biden is saying that hunter biden didn't make choices that lead to this result. but they have also learned over the years about how you get through this. they turn inward. they have this. it's not a coincidence that they're going to wilmington for this. that's sort of the ancestral homeland and they go there and they meet as a family. they have these traditions of these family meetings and the line that you often hear in politics from biden is that through pain you have to find purpose. it can sound like it's a line, except that for him, it is at the core of how he gets through this. and i can tell you that is no question what he is telling the other members of his family that if we're going to get through this part of our purpose is to demonstrate that nobody is above the law that a president does not interfere in the activity because of the court that a jury can still find its way to a result even in a time of intense partisanship, you've spent a lot of time with biden. i and his family as you are writing your book, did you ever think that you'd see a day like today? >> i'll be frank. no, i think when i first started interviewing joe biden back in 2014, a decade ago, beau biden was alive. it was actually kind of a hopeful moment in the course of his treatment. they thought that they might have had some good news. and in so many ways, this story, the one we are inhabiting today is the result of beau biden's death in 2015. it was like a bomb that went off in that family and i have to say one of the things we learned from this trial and it really was a revelation even to people who know the family well was the depth to which the impact of addiction rippled all the way through hallie biden, as we heard, of course, also ended up involved with crack cocaine. it was just a a period of his life and i think as as political observers, we study president's not only because it helps us understand the choices they in make the pressures that they're under. but it's also a reflection of ourselves, of our country and our time and what this family was going through between 2015 and 2021 and all toya all the way up to today is in itself a very american story as someone who studies biden. >> i mean, what is it? what did you take away from? >> they already had this pre-planned event on gun safety at the white house, which i think a lot of people were thinking to themselves. >> i mean, the timing here is unbelievable, but he came out, he didn't give the full speech. she actually was going to talk about a new gun restrictions that the doj has enacted what that has resulted in. he did not he spoke about it more broadly. his speech that had been previously planned, but he didn't seem to give anything away. i don't want i saw that speech. >> yeah, not a word. i think there's a way that he has drawn this bright line between what's happening with the family and what's happening in politics. and it can almost look, i think a little awkward because people are expecting him to talk about this thing in his life. but he is so concerned that it will be turned into a talking point by his opponent that i think he's almost going out of his way not to talk about well, i wonder how, how does a way on him when he hears three jurors who told cnn obviously they voted. this was unanimous. they voted to convict, but they were asking themselves if this would have been brought it all had he not been a hunter biden. >> that's been a fact for awhile. i mean, joe biden is said to have told people around him that he knows that had he not continued on in politics, that his son might not be facing the charges that must really weigh on it. i think to tap that i think it's a very heavy burden and look the joe biden's decision to be in public life as long as he has has added to the pressure on hunter biden, joe biden has always known for a long time that the gene of addiction, which is in this family is in hunter biden his life and by staying in politics, by being is exposed as they are in some ways, it has put pressures on hunter biden, and i do think that weighs on the president. >> and obviously officers coming in the middle of the election year, we will talk in a second about how republicans are handling this. but how does biden handle this at the debate? i don't think anyone thinks it's gonna have a huge impact on the election, but we'll see, but how does he handle it for the debate trump, who of course, at the last debate brought up a hunter biden. >> i think in the broader sense, there is a way in which this adds to the psychic load of what he is contending with. i mean, if you think about the middle please do you think about the us and now of course, within his own family, actually though as a pro, as a political matter and in the debate that's actually an area where joe biden knows how to handle this. you remember in 2020 there was a moment when he essentially telegraph very clearly back-off. i love my son and actually, and the data in the campaign was clear about this. that was a moment that americans responded to. i think there is some piece of the public that says we want to see not only that president, but also that dad. >> yeah. everyone else and it's great to have you on this. thank you for joining us. pleasure. >> of course, as i mentioned, the fallout from this verdict is already happening in a fast and furious way from capitol hill all the way to mar-a-lago. tonight, joining us here also, andrew mccabe, the former fbi deputy director and cnn senior law enforcement analyst, ashley allison, scene and political commentator and the former coalitions director for the 2020 biden campaign. and also david urban, cnn, senior political commentator and former trump campaign adviser. >> so we really got the entire gamut here. >> and andrew mccabe. but let me start with you because we did hear from the special counsel, david weiss today, someone we have not heard from very often in this case, he came out and spoke after the guilty verdict no one in this country is above the law everyone must be accountable for their actions. even this defendant however hunter biden, should be no more accountable than any other citizen convicted of this same conduct obviously, andrew mccabe, a hunter biden's legal team has made clear they're going to challenge this, but this is not the end of the legal exposure. >> legal troubles front or biden. he's got another case pending this november or this fall yeah katelyn, he's not out of the woods by a long shot. >> the case that he has coming up in september on the tax charges very serious case, and it's one that on its own brings the threat of much more extensive potential jail time. now, of course, they'll go into that case, having already been convicted of another felony, so he's no longer considered a first-time offender in the resolution of the tax case, which could make his penalties if he's convicted even more intense okay. >> so you do believe age or became that it would it could impact the outcome of the case potentially yeah, there's no question. >> he goes into that case now is having been recently convicted of another totally unrelated offense. so that's not a good thing for him. >> i think it was interesting that weiss made those comments about the fact that hunter biden should not be held more accountable than anybody else there's no question that this the trial was conducted in the way you would expect to see any criminal trial conducted. >> the prosecutors had an overwhelming amount of evidence. their case went in very smoothly. >> the defense had a very, very limited range of motion to work with here, trying to get the jury to basically thread the eye of a needle and focus on the fact that hunter allegedly wasn't taking drugs the day he bought the gun that was kind of a hail mary pass and obviously didn't work for them. all of that aside, despite the validity of this jury verdict, i think mr. >> weiss is going to have some really tough questions to answer in the long run about the broader decisions that he made along this path. >> why he offered such a favorable plea deal that he then walked away from and wouldn't give back to the defendant once when he asked her that initially. >> so there's a lot of questions about why hunter biden was held to this standard. maybe prosecuted in a way that most other defendants who might be who were allegedly involved in similar conduct would not have been held to the same standard. >> those questions are still i think hanging out there for me. yeah, weiss, it we don't often see a case like this broad as we've noted and looked at the historical context david, can we talk about how the trump campaign responded to this day? because obviously republicans talk about hunter biden a lot, but this i noticed this today with the trump campaign where they first released a version of the state of a statement on what happened criticizing biden, criticizing his family, essentially saying that hunter biden should have been charged with with other things. but at the end, on the initial statement, they said, quote, as for hunter, we wish him well, in his recovery and legal affairs okay. but then they retracted that and put out another one striking that last line and no longer wishing him well and then resending the statement all together. what do you make of that? >> well well, kaitlan, i like i like the first version better, right? obviously, nobody wants to see anybody languish in an addiction and spiral downward any more than they already have been. and is well chronicled on the laptop and is andrew pointed out correctly, september 5, hunter biden stands trial. again on these tax charges, which is what are much more serious, they're seven charges, i think three felonies and for misdemeanor charges, he is facing for not paying over $1,000,000.5 in taxes over a five-year period on $7,000,000 earned and so he's he's in for, some rough sledding ahead and two, your earlier get to evan's point earlier, it's going to be right in the middle of that campaign, september 5th. and it was kinda right when people are getting ramped up in campaign season. and that's gonna be weighing heavily on joe biden mind, he is not campaigning and it's going to be in the news every day is american goods are contemplating what they're gonna do. i don't think it's going to have a positive impact on who votes for whom, but people republicans are going to point back to the laptop and the 50 plus national security individuals who said the laptop was rushing russian interference camp the pain and it wasn't real. and in this case, the laptop with the fbi said laptop was real. israel could be so it's going to provide a bunch of fodder for the campaigns. for the republican campaign moving forward. yeah. >> i just wanted to when we've had any of those officials who've signed that letter, james clapper, brennan, we've talked to them about putting their name on that and what not but ashley, in the sense of this of what we're hearing from republicans and then struggling to kind respond to this. some of them are saying that they believe that conviction is kind of dumb in the words of one of them. in other situations they've been arguing there was this two-tiered system of justice, but, but i mean the president's son was just convicted by his justice department yeah. >> i mean, it's interesting to see republicans contort themselves in certain moments to make the story work for them. downtown was prosecuted. will the state a state-level charge not joe biden, they blamed joe biden now, hunter hunter biden. joe biden's son is prosecuted by the department of justice, who joe biden are president nominated attorney general, and they still are not satisfied i love i think at the end of the day, i agree with david in terms of there will be another case that hunter biden and involved in. and i do not think that these outcomes of the case particularly related to joe biden, son joe biden, like donald trump, but joe biden's son will be determined them on how voters actually the decide to vote in the fall. but what i do get allows an opportunity to do is to draw a contrast. yet again, on how the two 21 former president, one current president, who both our fathers approach the situation, talk about the situation, handled it with compassion or lack of compassion, handle it with honesty. and i think that will be in there'll be opportunity hey, this fall to see the state contrast how one side handles it versus the other. >> well, and we heard from the house speaker mike johnson on this listen to what he told manu raju today. david mr. speaker, you've been saying two-tier system of justice for some time. here's the president sayyed being convicted on three counts as that undercut your it doesn't every case is different and clearly the evidence is overwhelming here i don't think that's the case and the trump trials and all the charges because it had been brought against that have been obviously brought for political purposes. a hunter biden is a separate instance okay. >> but david, is that really i mean, it does undercut the claims that it's a two tiered system what it does, it look, everyone's saying, look, two things can be true here, right? >> people are saying, oh, this wouldn't have been brought if hunter biden wasn't joe biden? in sun, but yet nobody is saying that same thing, right? except maybe for fareed zakaria, that nobody would have brought the case against donald trump if you weren't his name work donald trump so possibly both those things are true in this and these both cases, and i think that's what's getting republicans goats here. >> andrew mccabe, can i just get your thought on this? i mean, you were the deputy director vector of the fbi. how do you view this in the sense of, you the rule of law and justice system overall and how that is. but this new political weapon at the center of everything caitlin, i spent my entire professional life in it. the justice system in this country is not perfect. it's got a lot of flaws, but it is not two tiered. i have also seen that people who have outcomes, they don't like, generally don't like the system. and people who have favorable outcomes, they like it this politics aside, that's basically what shapes people's opinions i guess the speaker believes that his own judgments about the quality of evidence in each individual prosecution, which he admits they're all very different, his own judgment about those things should supersede the decisions of judges and juries. i disagree with that but i guess we'll just have to leave it there and i should note figure johnson was not actually in the courtroom. we were listening to all of that evidence, of course, andrey cave, ashley, i'll send david urban great to have you all talking about this, breaking it down with us tonight. >> thanks thanks for having me. >> i head, stop the steal flags and now the wife of the supreme court justice samuel alito is condemning the pride flag and more lots of flag talk. >> it's all in tape will let you listen to it in a moment also for her republican house speaker unloading on former president donald trump tonight, holding nothing back truly he is a populist. >> he's not a conservative this populism is untethered to principles presidents, the former under our leadership, the forgotten man and woman, will be forgotten. >> he no longer the current typography is still a sacred qarrah. there's no country in the world better 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are hearing from paul ryan. he said is now voting for trump. he's going to write someone and he did that in 2020. so it's not a surprise. >> but this is what he said to neil cavuto about why he can't bring himself to vote for donald trump i think it really is just character at the another day and the fact that if you're willing to put yourself about the constitution and oath new or swear when you take office in federal office where there's president, remember? for congress, you swear an oath to the constitution. and if we're willing to suborn, it to yourself, i think that makes you unfit for office why do you think that other republicans more republicans who feel the same way, paul ryan does, don't say it i don't know when i wish they did. >> i mean, i look, there's reality that members of congress and former members of congress, particularly, or ones that are leaving don't want to make the party mad because they can go make a bunch of money lobbying after that. and so a lot of them 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unwilling to go outside, criticized him for anything unwilling to go outside of what other whatever his daily orthodoxy is, which has nothing to do with conservatism and look, it's really just a question of conscience i'm glad you said that about conservatism because this is what paul ryan's essential take was on what trump has done to the republican party. obviously, your lifelong republican, this is what he said also today i'm a conservative republican. he is a populist. he's not a conservative. i want to see someone who's, who has fidelity to principles. i would prefer a party that is based on principles not personality or populism this populism is untethered to principles, but is that the future of the republican party mean that is the direction it seems to be moving in more and more look it depends how far in the future i think in a year, yet still that party i think if you fast forward ten years, i believe there's not going to be a person on this planet alive that will ever admit 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flags that were flown on alito properties including an upside down american flag, which became the symbol for the stop the steal movement around january 6, justice alito responded to that in a letter to congress saying that the response to that reporting, blaming his wife for putting those flags up tonight, their neighbor in the alitos house, emily baden, said that she believes that everything that has happened, everything new here on this audio proofs are right absolute horror if there's one thing that is the basic job description of a supreme court justice. >> it is to remain impartial and with the upside-down flag, with the appeal to heaven flag. samuel alito has shown that he is not impartial here tonight. >> the vernon jordan chair and civil rights at howard university law school. cheryl, an ipl and it's great to have you here. i should note, we've heard the full recording. this is just what has been posted online that we can hear but from what we did here i wonder what stood out the most to you and all of this audio that is mostly about martha-ann alito, but also we're from justice alito himself as well yeah. katelyn, i am focused as well on the recording involving the justice himself. justice alito and the parts that i found most disturbing, probably the part that i find most concerning is when the reporter says that we need to return this country to godliness. and he says, yes, i agree with you. i find this to be a very shocking statement coming from a supreme court justice in a democracy like hours, which is not a democracy ruled by a particular religion you know, when john kennedy was asked whether as president his allegiance would be to the catholic church or to the constitution. he said, i swear an oath to the constitution. and that is what will guide my, thinking and my work. as president of the united states. i would've expected justice alito or any justice on the supreme court to say the same and then similarly, i was very alarmed by his endorsement of the idea that it is impossible to compromise around a set of issues that people feel passionately about. the very nature of the judicial function on an appellate court like the supreme court, is to engage in compromise, to engage in conversation, to find a way towards an answer. justice alito is fond of citing brown versus board of education, which is indeed a magician important decision that changed american democracy. but it was born of compromise to get to a unanimous decision striking down separate but equal required months of work and wrangling. but but ultimately, the court created a unanimous decision because they understood the importance of coming before the country as one speaking to such a volatile issue and what justice alito essentially said was that he concedes he gives into the idea that there are simply things he cannot compromise on and that the two, what he calls the two sides cannot compromise on. and his framing of these decisions as well. winners and losers also suggests something that is, that i think is contrary to how we think about the judicial function. >> what does it say to you that we haven't heard from justice alito since these recordings were published? >> well, i'd say a few things. kaitlan that i think we should be keeping our eye on. first of all, as, you know, senator durban is going to try to move forward. the senate ethics bill that he and senator whitehouse have put together that's obviously going to be a difficult thing to do, but he's determined to do to it. and when he was asked why he's doing this, pushes it because of the recordings. he said it is not because of the recordings and he said it was because of a financial disclosures and ethic statements. and i would remind everyone that justice thomas issued new disclosures, just a few weeks ago revealing trips from 2019. so quite late. >> and justice alito sought a 90 day extension, which he was granted so there may be other shoe to drop so we don't know. and i think that justice alito is not going to respond to every drip and drop of the revelations that are coming out. >> i think he responded last week around recusal from the case because that is imminent. yeah. but i don't think he intends to respond to each of these allegations. >> we saw him respond to that because they were asking him to recuse himself. he said he didn't fill he didn't think that it met the standard here. but cash you something else though because i'm curious as we talk about this is i wonder what you would say to people who listen to this recording in their responses. well, i'm uncomfortable or i'm skeptical of this because it was someone posing as a conservative supporter or a sympathizer of what the alitos deal with. i wonder what you would say two people who raise questions about that when they listen to these audio recordings yeah. >> i mean if the questions are about the ethics of recording someone pretending that you are sympathetic to their cause. that is one set of questions that i think are actually not the focus of our concern. i think that the focus is that justice alito was speaking in an environment where he felt very comfortable. he was speaking unreservedly. he had a sounded as though he were speaking quite sincerely as did mrs. alito. and what was also interesting was that it confirmed much of the account that was given to us by the neighbor of the very disturbing account about what was happening winning between them in that community. and even that violates at least as i read it, the court's own code of conduct that they released in november last year in response to pressure that they were getting after the revelations of financial disclosures, many of us have criticized that code but that code does say that adjusted should require similar conduct by those subject to the justices control in terms of harassing behavior and conduct, simply saying it was my wife who hung the flag or it was my wife who was engaged in the altercation by their own standards is not enough so we learned a lot from that recording that i think is important, and we'll be watching closely for the disclosure as well. cheryl, an i fold great to have you. thank you thank you. >> caitlin. and i should note that tonight on laura coates live, you will hear new audio of justice samuel alito. it comes from the person that we were just talking about, those recorded this the liberal activists, lauren windsor, she'll share. new excerpts from her secret recordings. that's tonight at 11:00 p.m. eastern up next here, that when the source it is primary night here in america, it was your monitoring critical races that could sway the balance of power our in washington. one major question is, did ousted house speaker kevin mccarthy and get his revenge? she was seeking tonight a brand new scene and projection right after the break hey, mom, how many should i decorated have ran have blue that's a really tough call. >> who are you if you look at the latest data, 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believe she went through election cnn's senior political data reporter harrington is here as these primary results are coming in, not just in south carolina, but also across the country. and obviously, the mace race was interesting because she had kind of didn't hesitate to criticize trump previously, especially after january 6, that all changed as she was facing this challenge. listen to what she said in her acceptance speech tonight about president trump i also want to give a giant heartfelt thank you to the 45th and 47th president of united states for his support. >> president trump, south carolina will have your back in november how much of an impact did he have in this race? >> i didn't hurt. right. i mean, last time around in 2022, nancy mace barely squeaked by in that primary against kt arrington when she was seen as more of the anti-trump candidate. now she has this massive advantage and that kind of lines up with what we've seen throughout this cycle, which is when trump makes an endorsement in either governor's race those are congressional races. his candidates have always one and 2024, at least before tonight. and the other thing i will note is somebody cares, at least in the republican primary electorate, what kevin mccarthy has to say, he's not the speaker anymore. the idea that he could go on this revenge tour and somehow get revenge against these candidates. these voters care about donald trump. he runs a reply publican party, not kevin mccarthy. >> yeah, there was some funding that kevin mccarthy helped with with mazes challenger, but but that was pretty much it. but we're also projecting that the republican michael ruling is going to win that that special election in ohio's six congressional district. this obviously matters because right now republicans having teeny tiny majority in the house and heal help with that margin just to teeny tiny bit. yeah. yeah. he'll help in that. but really what's interesting to me there is the margin which is he's not winning by a whole heck of a lot of the margin i last checked around was about ten percentage points. and why that's important, it's trump won that district by nearly 30 points. this is just another example of democrats turning out and high numbers in these special elections democrats are highly engaged and that's the thing they're hoping for come november, right? that this highly engaged electorate that they're seeing in these special elections will translate come november and their voters were turnout and trump's voters perhaps won't. >> okay, so that's interesting. so he wanted the district by how much in 2020 trump won it by a little less than 30 percentage twice and now you're seeing how close that is in that race is exactly right, and that's something we've seen throughout the special elections since roe v. wade was overturned as democrats been outperforming their 2020 basin and democrats are hoping that translates to 2024. but of course there'll be a much wider turnout in 2024. the question is, how much larger? well, that turned out, actually, yeah, and highly engaged voters important can i ask you? we're going to talk about a few of the other races were still waiting on some polls so close in nevada, cui talk about what is happening with george santos, your war, the associated press is reporting tonight that the former congressman who has, we know is facing federal fraud charges right now, has just one. this bid from a judge to be able to go and visit the poker nose and pennsylvania yeah from a judge essentially granting his request to be able to leave the state to go to this area. it's restricted as a condition of his release while he awaits trial, but he is going to be at least allowed to go to the poker news, isn't that nice? you know, he can go skiing and the poke anos perhaps that could be my winter vacation come next year, the next time i take a winter vacation, i can go to the polk and maybe still a little bit with george santos and have a good time. 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and they were screened by us officials, but apparently no red flags at the time investigators later discovered possible links to isis members overseas, which is what triggered this initial federal investigation. here tonight, danielle harvey and the former head of intelligence for the decent dc homeland security department, i mean, how concerning is it that homeland security officials and how worried are they after seeing this about potential terrorists, people with ties to isis exploiting the us southern border to enter the united states well, the good news is that the system worked, right? so let's just everyone take a deep breath. federal officials caught these individuals. they investigated them, they track them down. they have them in custody. so this is exactly how it's supposed to unfold. why didn't catch them when they entered is a whole different conversation. they will have to hear soon as the investigation goes through, it may be because of what we call trade craft. these individuals may have hidden their intention. they may be well coached. there may be a larger conspiracy at play. and if federal officials followed them that look at some of their communication, some of their activities, and deemed that they were a threat. so that's good news. they were caught the bad news is as christopher wray in an april and many cbp customs and border protection high-level officials have told members of congress and the public that they're concerned about terrorist and known as what we call k asts, known suspected terrorists, and people in the no fly list sneaking across the southern border because of the the volume of individuals that are coming and the number of countries are coming from. >> i mean, this is exactly what we've heard from republican critics of the southern border and how it's being handled at this moment is a concern that this something like this could happen and the system not working yeah, it's always a concern, especially when we would call them up the gottaways. so if you look at if one in every hundred thousand individuals who get away is a known as suspected terrorists. you can have dozens or hundreds of individuals that could potentially threats and so this is a wake-up call to all
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