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doesn't matter. >> well, i think the most important thing here is to recognize that iowans take their role in these caucuses very seriously, rachel. they're very deliberative. you know, if you know anything about iowa, many of them meet the candidates, a dozen or more times, they're at home events, house parties, they go to candidate forums. they get a chance to engage in individual conversations with the candidates. some of them are on a first name basis. so they cherish this role. and they protect it very jealously. so, look, when you have the endorsement of somebody like governor kim reynolds who's so widely and deeply respected, they take it under advisement, but this is their decision. this is their call. and what's really remarkable is what a contrast this is from 2016. in 2016 ted cruz was winning the evangelical vote with about a third of that vote, and trump was only getting about a fifth of that vote.
Rachel-inCentral-iowaIowansThingRoleManyAnythingIowa-caucusDoesn-t-matterCandidatesTimesConversationsam thinking he would have to come in a healthy second. it's very interesting because, again, as i said, boris, we've had a number of candidate forums and events and town halls and house parties, where all these candidates have gotten a chance to meet these voters of faith. i interviewed ron desantis as one of these biggest events with over four 1400 pastors and pro family activists in iowa, one of the biggest events before the caucuses. he was outstanding. he made his case. he talked about signing the heartbeat bill in florida. he talked about creating a culture of life. i think he's done extremely well. i think the challenge is that when it comes to the primary electorate, donald trump is not a big fish in a small pond, he's a whale in a bathtub. he's got a lot of support. if you look at the polling, it's very enthusiastic. it is intense. intensity counts for something. it's not necessarily that any
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