kitchen table conversations going on all across the country. where he gets to highlight his record. donald trump is having defense table whisper conversations with his attorneys. not a good look. you can not get out there on the trail in a split screen of biden campaigning and trump in a criminal trial where he very easily could face conviction. we don't know. but he is in deep legal trouble right now. that is not a good look for trump. >> matthew, is there a moment in this process in this trial over the next several months where the biden administration has to comment? has to talk about what is going on without interfering in the trial or without appearing to be. using it to crystallize over what is at stake for the american voters. tuning some of this out. >> well, first, the first thing that i will say is i agree with jonathan on this.
>> everyone is worried about safety. those investments in freedom are what is going to make us safer, investing in freedom, investing in human flourishing will make us more safe. >> a world of true freedom is these conversations, whether it is in a small town, big-time, beautiful table or card table, pulling people together and allowing them to listen to each other is freedom. >> joining me now is john legend. thank you for joining us . >> my pleasure. great to see you and great to speak with you. >> first, this is pretty personal to you. all of the work you've done in criminal justice reform, informing the public, storytelling, tell me a little more about your personal connection and why you got involved. >> growing up in springfield, ohio, i had many family members that interacted with the criminal justice system. somewhere in prison, somewhere in jail, my mother spent time
call kitchen table conversations going on all across the country where he gets to highlight it all. donald trump is having defense table whisper conversations with his attorneys. and that is not a good look. you can't get out there on the trail and the split screen of biden campaigning and trump in a criminal trial where he very easily could face convictions. we don't know. he's in some deep legal trouble right now. that's not a good look for trump. >> matthew, is there a moment in this process or trial over the next several months where the biden administration has to comment, has to talk about what's going on without interfering in the trial without appearing to interfere with the trial? but really using it to crystallize what's at stake for the american voters who may right now be as a result of fatigue for whatever reason tuning some of this out? >> first i'll say i totally
gaza border it's finding out something unexpected. >> i relish all of our conversations, its context the economy has by far the top issue for americans in this election, curiosity someone else did a jump in the race and devolve all. it's about sharing that. >> so you can be out front two. >> let's go out front erin burnett outfront week nights, its seven on cnn you are not broken. >> his need a place to be heard their trust in me means everything what's it like to hear from the people actually living the headlines? i'm adi cornish, my cnn podcast. we'll talk to the people behind the trend stories. >> i've got a lot of questions you, simon, with body cornish listen wherever you get your podcasts such a beautiful home
really careful about managing conversations among students, which has quelled things. it's a different campus than a columbia campus. i think that it is really complex for college presidents, but there's absolutely no place for violence. there is plenty of print place for protest, not violence. >> i agree, completely. there are two principles we need to uphold. number one is freedom of speech and the freedom to peacefully assemble, but also, the need to draw the line when it comes to intimidation and violence. i will admit, as the son of a jewish world war ii veteran, i continue to be shocked, although perhaps i should not be, by some of the anti-somatic rhetoric and some of the hatred addressed and directed at jewish people. it's one thing to degree with -- disagree with is really foreign-policy, but there are occasions where that crosses the line. any university needs to find
cards to $8. deal for these voters when the president can go to the states and have these conversations with those voters that could be all the difference. beyond that in many of the states for the biden campaign in the state of florida for example with abortion being on the ballot there, the abortion law in arizona being a big issue for those voters that will also help support for the biting. he does not mean they don't have to work with this. they're going to do a lot of work on the ground to get these unlikely voters out in places like georgia. in places like ohio, in places like michigan. shannon: let's get to the issues that you mention abortion for we know the economy. here in one of the states and wisconsin how people rate who is better to handle these issues. biden has advantage on abortion, healthcare, election integrity. trump has the advantage on foreign policy, economy, immigration and the border. kevin it is a a mashup of things people care about and who they think is better equipped to handle them. quickset really is.
difference between the two leaders. >> congresswoman jayapal said we should. be saving him. they say, hey, keep your powder dry. you don't get something for nothing. that i got the ukraine vote. is that enough? >> sure. i was talking to elizabeth slotkin the other day and she indicated that, sure, i would be open to conversations, but they already have the funding bill at this point. i think they kind of probably want more, but here's the deal. he won favor with putting this ukraine package on the floor. there's still faa pass, mda. >> the farm bill. >> the farm bill. there's plenty of stuff to lever ramming for the democrats, and i think it will probably happen. >> i'm fascinated by the dynamics here. we're in the election year and
scandals. >> 34 false statements made to cover up other crimes. these are felony crimes in new york state. no matter who you are. we cannot and will not normalize serious criminal conduct. >> prosecutors say the so-called catch and kill scheme by the national inquirer was intended intendoppress karen mcmacdougals story. pecker, the former head of american media incorporated the tabloid's publisher is expected to be their first witness today. he will likely testify about his conversations with trump and michael cohen about the payoff scheme. daniels, karen macdougall and cohen are expected to be key prosecution witnesses against the former president. but, you know trump's attorneys will try hammer cohen's credibility by pointing out that he served time in federal prison for tax evasion, campaign
enquirer" set to go first and expected to recount for the jury several conversations with mr. trump about the hush money and that's according to a person familiar with the plan. how do you see this shaping up as leading statements get underway today? >> i think the problem here is that we have a legal dispute. i don't think there will be much dispute about what actually factually happened. what i was struck when you played that clip from alvin grog he says trump made these book entries which he claims were false in order to cover up crimes leading up to the 2016 election. if trump committed crimes leading up to the 2016 election, why didn't bragg just charge him with those? the reason that we keep calling this is hush money trial is they don't have a crime. if trump had robbed a bank we would call it his bank robbery trial or shot someone on fifth avenue that he famously said