does jeb bush. they both have combativeness deficits when they go after hillary. she destroyed 30,000 e-mails. they should talk about that every day. >> heather mcghee, president of demos. are you fearful of john kasich as republican nominee versus hillary clinton? >> no. i think his brand of compassionate conservativism, expanding mental health crisis, gets him in the door where a lot of americans are, which is anxious about economic ina qualitity. half of americans couldn't pay a $400 bill without going in debt or selling something. they had very little to say for working class americans. >> that goes to the organizers, which was hugh's point about questions -- very quickly. >> i think hillary clinton in some ways, because the e-mail controversy was not explored very adequately by the questioner, and also because of the focus on gender, is one of
i think he will have to up his combativeness with hillary, as does jeb bush. they both have combativeness deficits when they go after hillary. she destroyed 30,000 e-mails. they should talk about that every day. >> heather mcghee, president of demos. are you fearful of john kasich as republican nominee versus hillary clinton? >> no. i think his brand of compassionate conservativism, expanding mental health crisis, gets him in the door where a lot of americans are, which is anxious about economic ina qualitity. half of americans couldn't pay a $400 bill without going in debt or selling something. they had very little to say for working class americans. >> that goes to the organizers, which was hugh's point about questions -- very quickly. >> i think hillary clinton in some ways, because the e-mail controversy was not explored
medicaid, talking about the mental health crisis in our prisons gets him in the door of where a lot of americans are right now which is really anxious about economic and equality. half of americans couldn't pay a $400 bill without going in debt or selling something today. so the republican party spent a few minutes on the economy in the debate and had very little to say for working class americans. >> that goes to the organizers, which was hugh's point about questions -- very quickly. >> i think hillary clinton in some ways, because the e-mail controversy was not explored very adequately by the questioner, and also because of the focus on gender, is one of the beneficiaries of what happened. ironically -- >> i could argue with marco rubio and john kasich seen as two strong performser in a general election, that's scary for her. >> i'll be in new hampshire with her tomorrow. i'll be surprised if at a town hall meeting this doesn't come up. it would be perfect to discuss megyn kelly. >> general election message, what john kasich has, which is why there is this universal
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we've talked on the program before about congressman's tim murphy's resolution, hr 3717, helping families in mental health crisis. what we don't yet have are family who is are empowered to say, my loved one is going down the drain. my loved one needs acute help. a person who doesn't want help and who has no insight can go into an emergency room, pull it together, say i'm not going to harm anybody, i'm going to be fine. and we had a familicide in which somebody wiped out six people in his family, then killed himself and his wife was clamoring she was terrified of him. he was going down the drain. so there's legislation available. i would encourage your viewers to call their congressman and to support 3717. because families are cut out of the decision-making process about getting help. now i would also quickly say, that we don't know what happened in his mental health background. i would expect a family member to distance themselves from
deranged man avenging the des of michael brown and eric germany, a sensitive act. you jean o'donnell is with us. he served 14 years as a new york city police officer, angela davis, cultural critic and writer. eugene, the blame for why this happened. okay. there is a lott being offered on this. should it begin and end with this guy who came up, shot his girlfriend and shot these two officers? should the blame begin and end right there? >> two conversations. we have a mental health crisis and the guns that are available. that's one issue for sure. the second issue, i'm not sure this is the tremendous amount to spend time on it. the atmosphere send sent to police is intolerable. elected fish versus to step up and stoppableing like bystanders.
caring-type capacity. by the way, we're not -- there was this past week, that said cities are criminalizing homelessness. >> yes. >> and how does that measure with people who need help that does not involve the police. >> as a matter of fact, we saw in recent weeks of the woman being beaten by a police officer. we know that is a circumstance of someone who is mentally ill. and so we know that, we see that, of course, the first responder -- it's hard to even look at. but i do keep wondering is this a training issue? is this because she should never have been there? because she should have been in a caring mental health environment? what is the solution in a moment like? >> training probably is one of the issues. i mean there could be a plethora of issues but police officers really do need to be trained on how to recognize the signs when dealing with someone in a crisis, a mental health crisis. and discern whether that's
afghanistan? >> the biggest problem that our februarys are telling us they're facing, especially this year, honestly, suicide. and there's definitely a mental health crisis that needs to be addressed, and we need an expansion of mental health services and resources. another thing congress can help dop with passing the suicide prevention for americans veterans acts. suicide has been the number one issue raised and flagged to us by iraq and afghanistan veterans returning home. >> so the question now after sloane gibson, who should take over the v.a.? there are media outlets with lists, "washington post" that one out. a few names discussed. senator jack reid, admiral mike mullen, general chiarelli, jim r webb and talk about chief of staff ray odierno. who would you add to this list or is there one name you want to endorse? >> we're certainly not endorsing anyone in particular, but i've heard some of the same names
>> commit you for three days they should be able to figure that out. >> a lot of people turn to washington and say why haven't you done something about this. taken aside the second amendment issue, tim murphy from pennsylvania has legislation proposed in congress that would get immediate help to families who think they have a mental health crisis in their family and it's been through a bill that's been held up but it should get another look immediately. that's where the help could hopefully try to prevent these immediate things from happening. >> doesn't california have -- >> they would never allow that to get out of commitment. >> fastest 7 never get up. a kmeed yen says she's embarrassed because she's never had an abortion.
as you say. the mental health fix, the murphy bill is a mental health fix because it involves family. it enhances communication between doctors and family at times of crisis. it deals with crisis in such a way that people who are in crisis and don't get it and don't want to get it because he was invested in being destructive, that we can protect the general public rather than let the illness or the condition or the selfish choice run the situation because sometimes people who are in crisis aren't psychotic. but they're about to do something catastrophic. we we've got to get away from the ideas of equating mental health crisis with psychosis. the two are not interchangeable. it's about people willing to make desperate choices. in this case because they'll get attention, but sometimes it's about a person who may be about to kill their children. >> thursday, you go down to the capitol. i know, i've heard your