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>> the simple fact is this plg is private property. and the owners have a right to use the building as a house of worship. and the government has no right whatsoever to deny that right. and if it were tried, the courts would almost certainly strike it down as a violation of the u.s. constitution. jon: joining us now, jay suculo, chief counsel for the center for american law and justice, the center that is representing tim brown. how would you answer the mayors comment? >> the mayor is confusing ...