titled i was brett kavanaugh s college roommate, he lie under oath about his drinking and terms in his yearbook. i spoke with mr. roach just before airtime. mr. roach, you say judge kavanaugh lied under oath when he testified before the judiciary committee last week. can you explain how you know that he lied? i can. i wasn t able to watch the testimony. i was in an airplane, but i read the testimony the next day and i was struck as i was reading it that, you know, i know debby. and debby ramirez. debby ramirez. and i know from my experience with her that at least from my perspective, there is zero chance that she s making up this story and i heard dr. befolasey ford s toaestimony. i believe she s telling the truth. when brett started saying things about this drihis drinking and
it s possible that i m forgetting something, but nothing comes to mind. okay. so whatever issues he s talking about, you re not sure. you also said that when judge kavanaugh was asked under oath about certain terms in his yearbook, boofing and devil s triangle, he said those were about flatulence and devil s triangle is a drinking game. you say that s been disputed by other people. you say you know that that is not true. can you just explain how you know that and you say you actually heard brett kavanaugh and his friends or at least someone else in the room using those terms in a way that it doesn t mean what he said under oath. yeah. i guess i was not alone. i ve heard and read a lot of people saying the same kind of thing. so this is i don t have any special inside knowledge here, but i was shocked when i heard that because those words were commonly used and they were references to sexual activities. if you think about the context
as we mentioned in less than is it hours from now, senators will start reading the fbi investigation summaries on brett kavanaugh. it remains to be seen whether anything therein will change any senator s mind, but we do know there are three crucial undecided republican votes hanging in the balance and as the clock ticks down to a vote, everything surrounding this story does matter. which is why what the president and the white house are saying now is worth noting. at a rally in mississippi last night the president mocked christine blasey ford. questioned her memory, implied she was not telling the truth, while a crowd of her supporters laughed and cheered, all hallmarks of experts in the field why women don t often come forward when they re assaulted. according to the white house, what the president did and said last night was actually not mockery at all. isn t there something wrong with the president of the united states mocking somebody who says
stumbling. he would sometimes be singing. he occasionally would wear this, i think it was an old leather football helmet. he d throw up and in the morning have a lot of trouble getting out of bed. you know, i wasn t an angel back then, either. there were times when i did the exact same thing. issue, and so the answer to your question is, yeah, i saw him both what i would consider blackout drunk and also deal with the repercussions of that in the morning. and you saw him throwing up? yeah. on more than one occasion? on more than one occasion. do you know do you have any evidence that he ever had times where he did not remember what had happened the previous night? you know, my sense of it is that we did talk about that, but i can t repeat any specific issue. i just it s too long ago. the judge testified about how much he liked and likes beer.
funny. he didn t. he was very angry when he got back. he went to our common room where there was a keg of beer and filled up a pitcher and poured it on my bed. i responded and did the same thing back to him. so we were not we weren t close. that was a strained incident, but it never really turned into a fight-fight. and i would say if i had to characterize this third person, you know, we just didn t have any relationship. i didn t hang out with him. i didn t spend a lot of time thinking about him. i suspect it was the same for him. just so i m clear, the pouring the beer on the bed, that was the third roommate, i believe his name was dave, or was that kavanaugh pouring the beer? yeah, i don t want to get into naming other people that aren t already dragged into this thing. i assume he has a good reason not to be part of it, but it was a third person who was in our suite. there were more than the three of us in our suite. okay. brett and i were in a single room together. there