volatile, unstable nation, and we can t allow those nuclear weapons to get into the hands of unstable people who would do harm to cities here in the united states. bill: now, that was one issue you took up with rick perry. another issue with newt gingrich was immigration, you accused him of embracing a policy of amnesty, when the former speaker made a point of saying that was not his idea. now, why did you go after him on that reaction? well, it s not just me saying it. there s an immigration organization that has given speaker gingrich a d minus of a grade on immigration, because the speaker has said in previous statements that he would make legal 11 million illegal alien workers in the united states today. to make them legal is in effect a form of amnesty and he has also said he embraces the dream act at the federal level, that s the federal government providing taxpayer-subsidized college tuition for children of illegal aliens.
going to adopt an immigration policy which destroys families that have been here a quarter century. i am prepared to take the heat for saying let s be humane in enforcing the law without giving them citizenship. it s not just me saying it. there is an immigration organization that has given speaker gingrich a d minus of a grade on immigration. because the speaker has said as in the previous statements he would make legal 11 million illegal alien workers in the united states today. to make them legal is in effect a form of amnesty. shannon: there were quite a few sparks about immigration in the debate last night. bring in the panel to talk about it. david drucker for roll call, a.b. stoddard from the hill and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. welcome to all of you. happy thanksgiving eve. start with you, rick perry updated his position on immigration in florida, it blew up in hitz face. what will happen to gingrich? gingrich is interesting. because on the one hand i can
your first impression from what we learned from the eight republican candidates? i think there were a couple of really explosive parts of the debate for me. the first one was obviously iran. i thought that perry and gingrich led the way with strategy when it comes to iran. but the thing that sort of blew up in newt gingrich s face, i think, the discussion on immigration. he had a rick perry heartless moment with this. i think this is really going to impact him tomorrow. it s really going to impact him with grassroots conservatives. i can see both sides of the argument here. he was reaganesque, 84- 86, reagan signed a huge amnesty bill but i don t think he made that differential during the debate. this is one of the most substantive debates, we really were able to see a lot of different sides on the candidates on this side of the issue. ron paul did surprisingly well on a couple of different parts. perry talked more than normal. it was good. i think gingrich gingrich prob
but the thing that sort of blew up in newt gingrich s face, i think, the discussion on immigration. he had a rick perry heartless moment with this. i think this is really going to impact him tomorrow. it s really going to impact him with grassroots conservatives. i can see both sides of the argument here. he was reaganesque, 84- 86, reagan signed a huge amnesty bill but i don t think he made that differential during the debate. this is one of the most substantive debates, we really were able to see a lot of different sides on the candidates on this side of the issue. ron paul did surprisingly well on a couple of different parts. perry talked more than normal. it was good. i think gingrich gingrich probably looked one of the best. dana, stand by. we ll get more analysis. the pictures, conditions are shaking hands in the hall. strong debate performance overall, but did he get in trouble with conservatives, his answer on immigration, saying we re nerve ever going expel the
dreamers being deported i think will rally the nation. for me the first step begins by finally addressing the needs of dreamers. if it is a priority that s too long has been pushed to the back burner. we have heard more insulting words of ignorance and prejudice toward immigrant families last night. laura: those american families are patriotic at all. raise your hand if you are wary of the endless immigration saba story started out by media coast to coast. a crowd of rabbis preached, pastors and immigration organization. on the outside, you wouldn t know this may be the last time. it s a day where big decisions will be made and i m not sure how it s going to end. back in 1998, he was deported