well, i m part of that obama coalition. i come out of the black community in terms of my support. if you notice, i have more people supporting me than in the black community that know who i am. three former chairs of the black caucus. we are back on a big night of our impeachment coverage with a very special guest. john malcolm vice president at the conservative heritage foundation. he was deputy assistant attorney general in the bush administration. he also testified formally about the mueller report as an expert
sell oh, a county that flipped for president trump after going for president obama in 2008 and 2012. you ve been talking to people there about the public hearings. has anybody changed their mind? have you heard from people who are convinced or remain unconvinced by what they are seeing? reporter: so hallie, they re not changing their minds, but when you say that washington is blanketed with impeachment coverage, a lot of the voters that we ve been talking to here also feel the same way. they re all saying that they re watching, but they do some to these hearings with different biases going into it. some of them think there s no reason for the hearings to be happening. others telling us that they do see wrongdoing. but the key point is that you can t underestimate, really, the power of the public hearing examine the power of the fact that this is on television, it s on the radio when these folks get into their car, and that s really been the thing that struck me over the course of a d
of our impeachment coverage with a very special guest. john malcolm vice president at the conservative heritage foundation. he was deputy assistant attorney general in the bush administration. he also testified formally about the mueller report as an expert witness for the republicans in the house judiciary committee. many credentials. thanks for being on the beat. what do you think is the president s best defense? well, look i don t think these hearings changed anybody s minds. i fully expect the house to impeach the president on largely a party line vote. and i fully expect him to be acquitted in the senate on largely a party line vote. if people went into this assuming the president was clearly undermining the nations interest for the sole purpose of gaining dirt on a political rival, then your views have been strengthened. but the president is going to sit there and say i get to set foreign policy, i get to decide who my emissaries are. i had a legitimate reason to
getting the evidence, it s still seeping in, it s still fostering debates that will spill out over dinner tables for weeks to come. the question is what the american people will demand and what they ll think about what their congress ultimately does. i want to get into our impeachment coverage with neal caatsa. he s argued dozens of cases for the supreme case. and law professor ryan goodman who is former special counsel to the general counsel of the defense department, bringing that pentagon expertise. neil katcho, we have done a lot of analysis, you and our colleagues across different cities throughout this week. my open question to you is to broaden out not just the latest, not just this afternoon, but now that the intelligence committee says they ve gathered this first primary trench of evidence and
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