that continues that way. >> it's also got, just looking at what next year will look. like a biden impeachment, if that is what house -- ultimately pursued, this will add to what we will see in the 2024 campaign calendar. trump could be in court the day before super tuesday of the races are held. what is this let's screen looking like for your party, the republicans, if trump in court and his voters are going to the polls and republicans in the house are holding impeachment hearings for president biden? >> i mean, it depends on what the evidence is and that's why an inquiry may ultimately be what's needed here because there's a lot to uncover. >> but he doesn't even won an inquiry, scott. he wants it to go straight to impeachment. >> i'm sorry? yes, that's what donald trump wants. and what i'm saying is how the house republicans have handled it so far by using the committees and the investigative tools that they have at their disposal by building evidence and starting to build a foundation, that's the correct strategic place. so his emotional impulse here
republicans, if voters are going to polls and republicans in the house are holding impeachment hearings for president biden? >> it depends what the evidence is. that's why an inquiry may be what's needed here because there is a lot that's been uncovered. >> but trump doesn't even want an inquiry, scott. he just wants it to go straight to the impeachment. >> i'm sorry? that's what donald trump. what i'm saying is the way house republicans have handled it so far by using the committees, by building evidence and starting to build a foundation, that is the correct strategic play. so, his emotional impulse here and his stated reason for wanting it, because they did it to us, is incorrect. the correct way to do it is to find the facts and build a foundation. and if the facts and the foundation warrant it, then you proceed. so, i actually trust what speaker mccarthy and the committee chairs are doing because that's what they're doing. they're on a fact finding mission right now and an inquiry would give them more tools n. terms of what this would look
needs to see all this. >> well, certainly we were watching what has unfolded in the past, january 6th, watergate, the impeachment hearings. there is a huge public interest in all of these. gentlemen, thank you so much. i'd love to have you back on again. >> sure. now, also donald trump and 18 co-defendants were charged, as you know, in georgia's 2020 election subversion case. well, they all surrendered, all of them by the noon deadline, some days ago, some a long time ago. you know, one of them is still in jail tonight. i'll tell you who and why next.
and there is an argument, if you take their read. i think when they get to court on the evidentiary hearing on this, it's not going to look as close or as fuzzy as it does right now, and i know that jack smith was well aware of the removal problem. there is also the possibility that this could stay part of it in state court and part of it in federal court. there is -- that exception is available, and could well exist. so the big loss to me in going to federal court is no cameras. and i think the american public needs to see all of this. >> certainly we were watching what has unfolded in the past, january 6th, the watergate, impeachment hearings. there is, obviously, a huge public interest in these things. gentlemen, thank you so much. i'd love to have you back on again. >> sure. now, also donald trump and 18 co-defendants were charged as you know in georgia's 2020
towards contempt and then going towards impeachment. clearly he has no interest in upholding the rule of law are equal application of the law. he fully intends to use the law as a weapon and a political tool to protect his friends and punish enemies. this man has no right to be the attorney general of the united states. he is making a mockery of our constitution and the rule of law of the country. it's time house republicans go after him as well as joe biden. >> jesse: you are right he is a part of this obstruction of justice and cover-up and garland will play a role in the impeachment hearings. which at this point they have to happen. >> they have to happen. thanks. >> jesse: fox news alert. just a couple of hours after his attorney general pick a hatchet man to run the investigation for hunter biden he packed his bags and hit the beach. >> the iconic alfred
evidence that's been coming out has been contradicting everything that the white house has been saying about the extent of the president's involvement in his son's business activities. at this point, i think it is fair to make the judgment whether or not they have gathered enough evidence to open an impeachment hearing. i mean, look impeachment hearings can be politically dangerous. you see what happens when the democrats impeach trump, it didn't help them at all politically, it helped president trump politically. you have to take that into account whether or not we have enough evidence to move forward. at least in the short-term, absolutely congress needs to keep pushing hard on this because they have done a great job so far in amassing evidence of what's been going on. >> charles: i think mccarthy has been pretty clear in trying to beat the stink between a probe and actual impeachment process. thank you, tom. appreciate it. >> absolutely. thank you. >> charles: you got it. with the 2024 race heating up, what's the political fallout in all of this legal drama? here to discuss the messenger congress reporter. steven, it's -- if it's friday, it must be a new probe. [laughter]
judge is? anding to know why want to use a grand jury from out of statement why do you think that is? >> they are using grand jury from d.c. where is overwhelmingly pro-biden and democrat one of the most liberal cities in the nation. they have got a friendly operating environment here. much more friendly than increasingly red florida. the other thing the special counsel is trying to do down in the mar-a-lago case is file things under seal. this is a play right out of adam schiff's playbook. you file it under seal just like schiff had the impeachment hearings down in your scif. you guys can't see it. the american people can't see what's going on witnesses can say one thing behind closed doors and go out and talk publicly and say a different thing. meanwhile the department of justice leaks selective
but we're setting an awful precedent here. we're continuing to say all right, we're going get you back for what you did to us. and what happens to the next administration, whether it's biden or even further in eight years down the road. >> so i remember when speaker pelosi was being pressured by the left wing of her party to launch impeachment hearings about president george w. bush having to do weapons of mass destruction in iraq and this and that. and she pushed it back. i don't get the sense that mccarthy has the same relationship with the far right in his matter if pelosi did with the far left. >> i think you're right. you remember bye-bye margie. this would be bye-bye kevin. he would lose his majority. it would be a political suicide mission for him to go through with this. he has 18 vulnerable members who are republicans who are in biden-won districts. and 12 of them won by less than 5%. this would be politically destructive to kevin mccarthy to go through with this.
the president said, "there's a lot of talk about biden's son that biden stopped the prosecution, and a lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great." having read the transcript and then having taken part in the impeachment hearings, i realized this wasn't about ukraine at all. this was actually about trying to keep donald trump in power. and he had no intention of going anywhere. democrats believe they've made their case, believe they will soon impeach the president of the united states. article 1 is adopted. the 45th president of the united states becoming only the third leader since the founding of this nation to be formally charged by the full house of representatives, and he now faces trial in the us senate. [susan] the votes were in the house to impeach president trump. this was an effort to make the case that this misconduct was so serious, we have to do what we can, but no one went into that thinking president trump would be removed from office. [tim] the house decided that this kind of behavior was a threat to our constitutional order. and they, therefore, had a constitutional responsibility
it, was there news this week? i couldn't quite tell. >> i took a few trains this week, i will just say that, back and forth to new york dc. >> and you know what? a few more people got thrown under a bus. it is nice to see you. hi, everyone, i am laura, thank you for joining me. here's the big question of the evening, everyone, did donald trump just perhaps violate the conditions of his release? the president threatening retaliation just 24 hours after yes, his indictment. a judge warned him, by the way, against intimidating or tampering with witnesses take a look. on social media he was writing quote, if you go after me, i am coming after you. kind of a way of saying don't come for me until after i sent for you, apparently. we will talk about all of that in a moment with our law expert, who testified at one of his impeachment hearings. but first, trump also railed against the charges against him at an event in alabama, just a