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BBCNEWS HARDtalk October 20, 2021 23:47:00

ok, so, stephen, i mean, you can try and fence me into this. you know, you re a bit of a hypocrite. yeah, heavy manufacturing, you shouldn t be doing this, that. all i can say, stephen, we need solutions. we need solutions right now. fortescue s implementing solutions right now. we are big believers in green hydrogen. we believe, unlike a carbon tax, it ll actually save you money. it s like a carbon tax in reverse. now, are politicians, are you asking, very good at spending other people s money and putting a carbon tax on? yeah, they are. do i have a view on that? no, i don t. what i would like to raise, though, which seems asinine if we re ever going to go green as a country or as a world, what are we doing about these monster big subsidies paid for by you, by me, by every other taxpayer out there into fossil fuels? how does that work? how do we assimilate fossil fuel subsidies with the slow elimination of fossil fuels to a green future? so, what is your message to your own government

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