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A ethics program. what does this mean whats the implication the one guy out there in the punning challenging the way that donald trump and his family and coast associates inspect is doing business is walking away from the job. >> the office of government ethics not exactly a powerhouse but it was founded after the watergate scandal to try to monitor and bring light on the various issues. the fact that this -- walter, the director of it who has been a thorn in the side of the white house is stepp...

Thats how they have to do it now. before it was like everyone was on the same page np now its like maybe we can get the first lady to go to the climate change things and manipulate things behind the scene that is way. >> peter let me ask you about another story is that has developed. and that is walter schwab, the outgoing ethics chief. he told npr because working with the white house was a disoimt process appointment his words are i can only describe my experience with the way theyve run the et...

And he ak accepted president putins assurances that the russians havent been involved. i think he was playing really a sucker game with respect to putin. it just gave putin another chance to deny it. >> im thinking about the complexity. there we have lavrov, the foreign minister. it includes kislyak, the ambassador to the u.s., who has been in all these meetings with jared kushner and michael flynn. very much right in the middle, his ministry is involved. putin directs everything in russia. he k...

Agencies have said that it did happen. and he semied president putins assurances that the russians havent been involved. i think he was playing really a sucker game with respect to putin. it just gave putin another chance to deny it. >> im thinking about the complexity. there we have lavrov, the foreign minister. it includes kislyak, the ambassador to the u.s., who has been in all these meetings with jared kushner and michael flynn. he knows everything that trump may have done in colluding with ...

We dont have one system. we in fact have 50 systems, plus the district of columbia, and that makes either driven by cooperation and mutual interests, because were not driven by government force. >> secretary, there have been investigations, there have been studies on this, a number of them, and nobody has found any widespread instances of voter fraud. in fact, there was a -- >> well, let me stop you right there -- no, no, let me -- >> this is not your show, sir -- >> let me -- >> please stop -- ...

Going to ahow these things to proliferate. as with trump, hope may spread eternal. i dont see him changing his tune personally and i think that will continue to create a dichotomy in terms of what the administration does behind the scenes and how the president is leading out in front. >> and we have the joint statement and joint appearance with president xi of china and vladimir putin of russia. they shouldnt seem like they need the u.s., their alliance. >> put the u.s. on even footing with nort...

Thats all he can handle at this point. i think its two things. one, i think theres the legal ramification and, two, he doesnt know what he is talking about. someone is going to ask him a question, whats in the health care bill. >> thats right. >> whats in the budget, why are you doing x, y and z, and he doesnt have an answer. so he cant go on a real interview. >> that second point, olivia, is the thing that im really obsessed with in the midst of this huge domestic priority, is one-sixth of the ...

Goes, "arent i swell" and they say, "yes, youre swell." thats all he can handle at this point. one, i think theres the legal ramification and, two, he doesnt know what he is talking about. someone is going to ask him a question, whats in the health care bill. >> thats right. >> whats in the budget, why are you doing x, y and z, and he doesnt have an answer. so he cant go on a real interview. >> that second point, olivia, is the thing that im really obsessed with in the midst of this huge domesti...

Doesnt have an answer. so he cant go on a real interview. >> that second point, olivia, is the thing that im really obsessed with in the midst of this huge domestic priority, is the health care, an effort to reshape a huge part of it, an implication for tens of millions of americans. i want the president to do a press conference on health care and say, the ground rules are no russia questions, were just talking health care, stay on the substance of health care. i think everyone on the hill, repu...

Trump attacking the media is nothing new, but was this one different? >> sort of, i suppose. i do think that so soon after sarah huckabee sanders saying the president has never condoned violence, to have an edited clip of him giving -- i dont even know how to describe it. vince mcmann, founder of the wwe, with a cnn head, a clothesline? having that tweeted out is not exactly consistent. there it is. so different in that way. not different, though, as you pointed out, brianna, with donald trumps ...