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Fallujah, why are they doing this, fareed? >> because they are corrupt, inefficient, and they do not have the same determination that the opposition does. you know, we saw this in vietnam with the south vietnamese government. when a government lacks legitimacy, when a government is not inclusive, the opposition is much more determined, much more ruthless than the government. and what nouri maliki has done is undo almost all the good that general petraeus did in iraq with the surge in 2008. the s...

>> certainly a chaotic situation there, shasta, thank you to you, your producer, for all of your hard work. moving to iraq now where in the city of tikrit, isis now taking over with weapons now in their hands, these highly trained, highly motivated fighters are now highly armed. lets bring in bob baer analyst, bob, how dangerous are they, especially since they are taking over the cities and are able to gain other resources in those cities? >> theyre extremely dangerous. they have heavy armor, ...

>> you joined the marine corps in 2001. you have seen this from the beginning of the war on terror, how did it make you feel when you saw the al qaeda flag in fallujah and iraq? >> it made me furious. i spent seven months of my life trying to make that part of the world a better place. and to see that work kind of reverse over the course of five years is extremely frustrating. >> what message does that send to the rest of the world about americas willingness to confront its enemies? >> you know,...

No u.s. troops in afghanistan, no counterterrorism, no advisers. in this in the past has not been the presidents preference, but senior white house sources tell me this will be what the u.s. does if afghan president karzai or his successor do not sign off on the agreement that would, among other things, allow u.s. troops to remain in country with immunity from local prosecution. a senior pakistani government official told cnn that u.s. withdrawal would cause a civil war in afghanistan potentiall...

Determined to do whatever its going to take from suicide bombings to assassinations to establish their ultimate goal, and that is the creation of an islamic state, wolf. >> and this isis group, they have a significant presence in iraq right now, whether in fallujah, on bar. you have spent a lot of time in iraq. they seem to be gaining some significant strength, not only in syria, but iraq, as well. >> reporter: and they are effectively an extension of the islamic state of iraq, headed by omar om...

With. i think definitely there were mistakes all along the way. in the bush administration and the obama administration, and we need to take stock. >> also, just this conversation is not to take anything away from the sacrifices made by american forces or other forces. >> we need to talk about that. those sacrifices have been put in some jeopardy now. you can talk to marines who fought in fallujah. it was the worst battle since vietnam. >> not just street by street, it was house by house, inch b...

Is not to take anything away from the sacrifices made by american forces or other forces. >> we need to talk about that. those sacrifices have been put in some jeopardy now. you can talk to marines who fought in fallujah. it was the worst battle since vietnam. >> not just street by street, it was house by house, inch by inch. >> to see the black flag of al qaeda flying over fallujah again is a humiliation. they were going to pull out, but there was no successful attempt to keep a proper force th...

I mean, what should -- what was the point? >> well, this isnt a surprise to me, judge. >> why? >> the reason its not a price is because iraq is connected to syria. like afghanistans connected to pakistan. what happens is that al qaeda thrive in ungoverned spaces. and the leader of al qaeda in iraq, baghdadi, has moved to syria to regenerate the al qaeda cause in the form of isis. >> hes the guy against assad in syria? >> yeah, theyre the guys colluding with the fsa, the interfrictions there. >> ...

I mean, what should -- what was the point? >> well, this isnt a surprise to me, judge. >> why? >> the reason its not a price is because iraq is connected to syria. like afghanistans connected to pakistan. what happens is that al qaeda thrive in ungoverned spaces. and the leader of al qaeda in iraq, baghdadi, has moved to syria to regenerate the al qaeda cause in the form of isis. >> hes the guy against assad in syria? >> yeah, theyre the guys colluding with the fsa, the interfrictions there. >> ...

The panel perhaps yelling at me, id like to just mention one little thing you mentioned it right at the top of the last hour. there are other things going on. >> in the world. >> marines who fought in fallujah and lost lives, 2004 and 2005 over a hundred marines are killed and fallujah is back seemingly in the hands of al qaeda. we should think about those things. >> we are getting to those things next block alex tells us. david gregory thank you and chuck as well. david axelrod, greatly appreci...