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lot of legal experts say he wins one in the district of columbia. keep in mind in the last election in 2016 only 4% of district of columbia voters voted for donald trump. not good odds in the district of columbia. >> bill: something we're watching. kellyanne conway senior counsel to the president from the white house. good morning to you. i have a long list. >> another slow news day here. >> bill: i have a long list. paul manafort, how closely is the president watching this trial that begins today? >> we haven't discussed that in quite a while. i would note for your audience, bill, that the judge has very strictly instructed no mention of paul manafort's role in the trump campaign, no mention trump, russia or collusion. this trial obviously centers on matters that have nothing to do with the campaign. i think that even mr. manafort as i read it had requested that there be no mention of his
brief tenure at the trump campaign several years ago. i believe there is one witness that -- there may be one matter of somebody whom he has gotten a loan from in exchange for a job on the campaign. that's just what i read. i was the campaign manager for the winning part of the campaign. i won't be brought up on federal criminal charges of any type. i certainly wasn't making money in ukraine or talking to anyone in moscow. that's very clear. this has nothing to do with collusion, russia, nothing to do with the trump campaign. >> bill: iran. if the president were to meet with iran's president, what would he get out of that? >> the president has made clear he is open to conversation and negotiation. he has done that with chairman kim, mr. putin. and he has also said if it's not a good deal for the united states and our interests and our workers and our security he will walk away any time. he is always open to negotiation and conversation. both the president and secretary pompeo made clear
iran would have to change its behavior, including to its own people. it's maligned behavior to its own people will have to stop. if it is willing to do bet you are erectically for its own people. this is a better approach than forking over lots of dollars to the iranian regime for a nuclear deal that this president has taken our country out of because he said from the beginning in a winning way was a bad deal overseen by the last administration which his political opponent was a member. >> bill: see if it happens on iran. you mentioned chairman kim. we get confirmation they're still testing missiles in north korea. what does it suggest about the success or not that came out of singapore, kellyanne? >> it suggests it's a process. you are talking about 68 years of sustained war and conflict in korea. and we're ahead of the game in this way. we have this -- several months
success on that. very close on the mid-terms. big rally for ron desantis in florida. maybe on the west coast of florida as well in tight elections. barack obama lost 63 seats in his first mid-term of 2010. this week he had a message about a possible shutdown over the lack of fund funding for a wall on the southern border. how does it help the case, a government shutdown for a mid-term election that you know will be closely watched? >> the president is focused on the other part of that, immigration. it is completely concerning to us, frustration at this point as to why congress won't do its job and pass meaningful immigration reform. this president couldn't be more clear for the last three plus years on what he thinks about a broken immigration system. he repeated it again yesterday and catch and release, releasing people into the interior of this country. ending chain migration, going to a merit-based system of
immigration and having the wall and border security. it is a stark contrast to the democratic party running to abolish ice. that keeps us all safe. which is on the front lines of stopping child smuggling and drug trafficking and other activity. seized enough fentanyl to kill every man, woman and child in this country and there would be no loss of 63 seats. president trump didn't try to do a government takeover of healthcare. instead he has cut taxes and major deregulation bringing peace and prosperity. it was a huge contrast but i have to say also what the president is doing today in tampa. he is going to tampa bay tech after he signs the perkins reauthorization. perkins is going to benefit about 11 million high school students across this country who want to go towards
vocational, technical education like many of my fellow students at the high school i went to in south jersey. they graduated from high school, graduate the technical/vocational certificate they support themselves as mechanics, carpenters, hairdressers. we need to get folks ready for the economy of today and tomorrow. we have 6.6 million available jobs looking for workers. now instead of workers and employers looking past each other they're looking for each other under the trump economy which is exciting. >> bill: we'll follow the event and watch the rally in tampa. one of the tweets from earlier today. here is one of them. one of the reasons we need great border security, mexico's murder rate in 2017 increased by 27%. a record, he writes. the democrats want to open borders. i want maximum borders security, respect for ice. he laid out the case. you know the districts well
about the contrast in this election. today what is the percentage you give of holding congress for republicans? >> i think it's better than 50%. i know with the historical trends. this is a president who defies trends and makes his own and defies history and makes his own history. as the president said he and the vice president will be very active on the campaign trail. you mentioned today again on thursday we'll be in pennsylvania, the vice president was in ohio yesterday. so the president says he will be very active. we know he is not afraid of several stops a day on a campaign trail. all the while his first priority being president of the united states. remember, those historical trends, clinton losing 54 seats and republicans taking over in 94. obama losing because of obamacare mostly and he didn't have a massive tax cut and he didn't deregulate and he didn't try to broker negotiation, denuclearization around the world like this president is,
all the while this president i think is going to be much more active. he is not telling these folks -- >> bill: no question about that. >> we know what the historical trends are but i don't think you'll see those losses. 42 republicans have retired. not something we can control. >> bill: a lot of these places where congressional districts are toss-ups. thank you, i hope you come back. kellyanne conway from the north lawn today. >> sandra: much more on one of the big stories of the day. the paul manafort trial and the test it will be for the mueller investigation. former u.s. attorney andrew mccarthy is here and join us later this hour. our headliner today. former attorney general alberto gonzalez, the latest on the mueller investigation, confirmation for judge kavanaugh. busy morning. >> bill: we need four hours. kellyanne conway made the case the president is working hard to get republicans elected in
the mid-terms. today's trip is all about florida campaigning for ron desantis running for governor. rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel coming up with that in moments. plus this. >> sandra: police in iowa asking anyone with any information about mollie tibbetts to please come forward. what investigators are now saying about the case. >> bill: the trump team not giving up the fight to bring home an american being held in turkey on charges of spying and terror. >> turkish officials have the authority to release andrew brunson. i believe we'll see a release of andrew brunson returning him to the united states soon. the president is leading the charge here to get our client released. he knows how to negotiate. we go to in testing our performance line, at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2018 is 300 and is 300 awd for these terms.
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the search for mollie tibbetts. investigators have conducted more than 200 interviews in connection with this case. the 20-year-old student was last seen on july 18th while dog sitting at her boyfriend's home in central iowa. her disappearance has gained national attention as the search for her ramps up. >> bill: prime time tonight president trump in florida to give a boost to a political ally. a big year for representative desantis who will be a great governor for florida. a good race going on. strong on crime, borders and second amendment. big help on tax an regulation cuts. loves our military and vets and has my total endorsement. ronna mcdaniel is here to talk about this. he is going up against adam putnam. seems the race has changed. putnam had a lead in the polling. a lot of undecided but it broken in desantis's favor. how do you see it right now? >> you're seeing where the energy of the republican party
is right now. it is solidly behind the president. and as he has endorsed in the races you've seen a shift for the candidates he supported. you saw it last week in georgia with kemp. you've seen it with mcmaster in south carolina and kate airington. his base goes to the candidates and gives them a boost. you see it if florida. >> bill: you heard kellyanne conway put the odds on republicans keeping the control of congress. 50%. a lot of people might feel that way but we came across a few headlines today that gave us a question. byron york writes this. after 30 days of blank, gop mid-term elections fear rises. we have another one "wall street journal." trump might not mind speaker pelosi as a political foil for 2020. have you seen those pieces? what do you think? >> the president is all in on keeping the majority in the house.
we know nancy pelosi would be a disaster for our country. she called the tax cuts that have increased paychecks for millions of americans crumbs. she is completely out of touch. she will bring impeachment proceedings. these aren't things we want. we know the history. there are 23 districts where hillary clinton won where we have republicans that either held those seats or currently in those seats. we know that typically the president in the first mid-term loses seats in the first election. we're working to defy history and why we've raised record money. we just completed our national week of action where we had 4,000 people knocking on doors contacting two million voters. we know what we're up against and have a record to run on with record unemployment with isis on the run. military being funded, deregulation. economy booming, a great gdp number. there are things we can take to the american people as deliverables and say this is what we've accomplished in a year and a half. let's not turn back the clock and send it back to the
pelosi/schumer dark ages. >> bill: the tweet from the white house. the koch brothers who have become a joke are against strong borders and powerful trade. i don't need their money or bad ideas. they love my tax and regulation cuts, judicial picks and more. i made them richer. they are net -- i'm for america first and the american worker, a puppet for no one. two nice guys with bad ideas, make america great again. they give a lot of money to republicans on the senate side. how do arguments like that help? >> it was disappointing to see yesterday they aren't going to support kevin kramer in this all too important north dakota senate race. heidi heitkamp has not been a supporter of the policies the president pushed forward for this economy and kramer has.
they're ideologues not just supporting republicans. they're also supporting democrats. that's why the president has been so supportive of the rnc. the party is where the data is and where we're building our infrastructure. we do the ground game. we continue -- we're supporting republicans and majorities to pass his agenda. >> bill: thank you for your time. a little later in the show congressman ron desantis is live here at 11:30 a.m. eastern time ahead of the rally in tampa, florida. stay tuned for that. >> sandra: breaking news out of the west coast as the northern california wildfires are not letting up. get out and get out fast. that's the new warnings from fire crews on the ground there. we'll be speaking to them right after the break. >> bill: this shark was stolen and now it went back home. how did it get there? you're about to find out.
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gave the shark a hero's welcome with a standing ovation. the shark took a bow. >> sandra: it's a real thing going on here. >> bill: we have to give her a name. >> sandra: got any ideas? >> bill: sandy? too close to home? >> sandra: maybe. those sharks. >> people still need to be packed and ready to go because the fire behavior could still be very changing and shifty. we want folks in this area to still be ready to evacuate on a moment's notice if needed. >> sandra: fire crews putting folks in northern california on notice be ready to get out now. the wildfires in northern california raging on. the biggest are over 20% contained. six people have now died. joining me now by phone is deputy chief of communications for california fire scott mclean. thank you for jumping on the phone and giving us an update this morning. what can you tell us about the status of these fires and about a fifth of them contained at this point?
>> as of yesterday evening we're looking at 17 significant fires throughout the state of california. as we progress each day, we're getting better. we're fighting those different types of fires. right now other fires are taking their place. the carr fire grew to 110,000 acres over the night. there is a lot of fire activity and we hope to see some weather changes the latter part of this week into next. >> sandra: that is the big wild card right now, the weather. what is in the forecast as you look out into the week, scott? >> thursday we're looking at the temps starting to drop. not dramatically but the humidities will start to rise as well. hopefully that will calm down some of these fires where we can get into a direct fire
fight mode in certain areas of the fires instead of the indirect. >> sandra: give us an idea of the efforts underway. we are looking at images of the brave firefighters on the ground trying to contain these what you are saying 17 significant wildfires still burning across the state. what are these efforts like on the ground? >> let's go with the carr fire out of redding. driving up the highway that went through that fire highway 299 you could see the remnants of the fire fight. it is the men and women go in and start climbing the hills dragging hose and making lines and making the effort and they'll get push backed by the erratic fire behavior and take another stand and go back in trying to do the same thing over and over and over again. aircraft are involved, dozers, all our tools are involved in these fire fights. we've got 12,000 firefighters
on the line. statewide right now. more resources continue to come into the state from all over the nation. >> sandra: you just referenced the carr fire, one of the 17 burning throughout the state. so far the update we've had it scorched over 100,000 acres of land. this particular fire was started by a vehicle. what can you tell us about that? and is this the worst of the fires that we're seeing? >> for year-to-date yes. it was caused by sparks due to a mechanical situation off of a vehicle. this is the proof it only takes a spark to start the process. the fuel and vegetation is receptive to fire because it's so dry in california. >> sandra: the message to residents there? >> be prepared. the public comes to the base camps. we want to bring you food, water, clothing, whatever it
may be. their hearts are pouring. i ask that you, the public, help us. the biggest thing you can do is be prepared in case you have to evacuate. if you live in the rural areas or on the outskirts of those, be prepared. have a go kit ready to go and know how you'll get out. make sure your family knows. evacuate when the time comes. >> sandra: incredible effort underway. 3600 firefighters battling the carr fire alone. those fires continue to burn across the state. thank you very much, scott mclean, for the update this morning. >> bill: 9:30 in new york. fox news alert. searching for new evidence north korea is getting rid of its nukes fox news confirming a report the regime is still building missiles. a live report on that developing story moments away here. >> sandra: plus police arresting seven men in the country illegally for the armed robbery at a jewelry store. what we're learning about where the illegal immigrants were from and how they ended up there.
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>> sandra: trump attorney jay sekulow who represents a family who is under arrest in turkey. we're threatening large sanctions against the nato ally. let's bring in north carolina senator. >> we're glad he has been released to house arrest. that was a good first step. i will tell you the president of the united states has been incredibly engaged directly securing his release. the president is not resting until our client, andrew brunson, pastor for 23 years in turkey is returned to the united states. >> sandra: senator tillis joins us now. where does it go next? >> first, i appreciate the president's commitment. he and i have spoken about this. secretary pompeo, the
administration has real owe done great work to get us to a point where he is released on house arrest but we need to continue the pressure until he is back in the united states and reunited with his family. >> sandra: president erdogan making it clear. they can't make turkey back down with sanctions. we won't step back. is the threat of sanctions going to work and bring this pastor home? >> well, i think that we have to apply -- it's a very complex scenario in that we need turkey as a strong nato ally. they're in a complex part of the world. we understand some of the internal and external challenges that president erdogan is dealing with. this man is illegally imprisoned. he is charged with things that wouldn't keep you in jail overnight in the united states. we want just treatment for pastor brunson and talk about all the very positive things that we should be doing with turkey. >> sandra: what does it say more broadly when you look at
u.s./turkey relations, senator? >> it could have long-term consequences. i'm the co-chair of the senate nato observer group and i was trying to determine if turkey's behavior was the turkey before they were admitted into nato in 1952 if they would even be qualified to be a nato ally. we want to get back to a normal relations where we work together on military and economic issues. but this is something that's really going to harm any positive progress with turkey until this is resolved. >> sandra: i heard you start off by commending the president and his involvement in this. do you see this as an effort the president will not let back down from? >> i don't think so. the president and i spoke. i believe him when he says nobody wants pastor brunson out more than him. he has worked on this personally and had discussions with the president. he has asked members of his cabinet to work on th. i want to applaud the president for being so helpful and we need that level of engagement to
insure his release. i spoke with pastor brunson on friday and he was in good spirits being released even under house arrest. he is very much aware that could change any day. he could be back in prison. we want him out of the country and we want to also focus our attention on others who are detained that i feel like are after pastor brunson we have to have a discussion with the turkish government over. >> sandra: the threat of sanctions. how far should the u.s. be willing to go with turkey in demanding that this pastor be returned? >> i for one hope that we don't have to move forward with sanctions but i think we do have to express how committed we are to pastor brunson's release and i applaud the president for being willing to take that step. i'm sure he didn't do that lightly. this could will be resolved with the release of pastor brunson. get back to more normal relations with turkey and get back to the positive things economically and mill taerl that i would like to talk about but i can't until pastor
brunson is released. >> sandra: mike pence saying it's a welcome first step when referencing the pastor's house arrest but he has warned erdogan several times in recent days that turkey will face consequences if they refuse to release this pastor. how ultimately do you expect turkey to respond to this sort of pressure from the united states, senator? >> i'm guardedly optimistic we'll get to a positive outcome. we need to keep him out of the prison, under house arrest. let them go through whatever legal processes they need to go through and get him home soon. >> sandra: the president has been engaged with this and we have seen that fight. as far as you, senator thom tillis, you recently spoke to the pastor. how is his communication with his family at this point? they are a huge part of this effort to bring home their family member. >> noreen, his wife, has been the foundation that helped pastor brunson go through
almost two years of incarceration. his daughter, jacquelin and i met last week or the week before last with his son-in-law. he has been in contact with family members under the terms of the house arrest. he is able to reach out and speak with members of the family. was able to speak with me and suspect he will speak with other members of congress. it's a great first step. he was really in prison for almost 17 months in a cell designed for eight that had 21 people in it. he is at least around the familiar environment of his home and now i want him to be in the very familiar environment of his home in north carolina. >> sandra: the president said he will not rest to quote jay sekulow, the president will not rest until andrew brunson is returned home to the united states. good to have you on the program this morning. >> bill: let's get him home. fox news alert on the korean peninsula. new satellite images reportedly
show the nuclear regime is building new missiles. greg palkot live now. what more do we know about the missile site, greg? >> fox confirming the reports that north korea is now busy once again building more missiles. u.s. officials telling fox news it is business as usual at a factory near pyongyang that builds intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching the united states showing there is no evidence of a halt of work. we're talking about the long range missiles used three times last year in test firings that could potentially reach the east coast of the united states. recent work activity visible. that comes after, of course, the summit last month involving president trump and north korean leader kim jong-un in which there was a commitment for denuclearization and comes amid a meeting today at the dmz between north and south korean generals trying to calm things down at the tense border.
no commitment made at that meeting. >> bill: what does it mean for the efforts. >> there was no promise to denuclearize from kim last month. last week we heard from secretary pompeo saying north korea is still making fissile material used in bombs. uranium enrichment plant, another missile plant revealed but they've taken measures, in fact, to bring down the temperature a little bit, dismantling a site and the return of the remains of those u.s. service members. repatriation happening tomorrow. it's a mixed bag. i think we need to be careful. back to you. >> bill: greg palkot in london on that. >> sandra: paul manafort appearing in court today as jury selection kicks off for his trial. why it is considered the first real test in robert mueller's investigation. >> bill: new reaction from the president on special counsel's
probe. andrew mccarthy joins us next. >> you don't just get to interview the president. you have to show there is a serious crime and he is the only one that can give you the information you need. that's why rudy keeps saying there is no crime. if there is no crime what's the point of having the conversation?
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what were the circumstances? >> the conduct has been out there. what happened here is this involves political consulting work that manafort and other people his partner, richard gates who pled guilty in mueller's investigation, this is conduct they were involved in going back to around 2004 and forward to about 2014 and a little bit beyond. so what the justice department has apparently -- this comes out of manafort's camp, what they have looked at is the question whether he ought to be prosecuted for failing to register as a foreign agent for the work he did for this ukrainian political faction and what they claim is they looked at that conduct, that is the justice department did and opted not to prosecute him. when mueller came in he revived that investigation. >> bill: what's different now? paul manafort worked for trump's campaign and his lawyers would come in and argue that you are just trying to get
the president. and the judge referred to that in may. so how does that factor into this trial? >> that has the virtue of being both true and something that you are allowed to do if you're a prosecutor. it is a common thing even though it's not a pretty thing that prosecutors like to talk about but it is a common thing for them to squeeze people for information to try to make a case on other people. >> bill: the prosecutors have said in court already there is no mention of russia in this trial. how is that possible? he was working for a pro-russian politician in ukraine and made a lot of money doing it. >> it doesn't have anything to do with the 2016 election. the rationale for mueller's investigation is russia interfered with the 2016 election and the suspicion that the trump campaign, which supposedly benefited from that, may have had some participation in it. but this case, while it has been called the first test of mueller's investigation, to my mind really isn't. it's a test of whether he can
get manafort convicted of something but it really tells us very little about the thing he is here to investigate and it is a fair question to ask, bill, what do we need a special counsel for? this really does not go to the reason the special counsel was appointed in the first place, which was a justice department conflict of interest with respect to russia's interference in the election and any trump campaign participation. >> bill: and on that point in day one of this case that's what manafort's attorneys were in court arguing. this is outside the bounds of what the special counsel was appointed to do. can you win on that? >> they can't because the justice department has the power to grant the jurisdiction to the special counsel to bring the case and they opted to do that. the regulations that the manafort people cite i think they're correct when they say the justice department didn't comply with all the special counsel regulations but those regulations also say they don't create any rights that are
enforceable against the justice department. >> bill: two days rudy giuliani has been talking a lot. collusion is not a crime. there was no collusion accepted by crooked hillary and the democrats and we learned by john roberts there will be no interview with bob mueller. that's gone back and forth. you made the case to sandra last night working for martha, you don't get the right to interview a president. you have to show that there is a crime or the possibility of something involved that would involve him. >> right. >> bill: this is not a free pass. >> think about it this way. there are hundreds, thousands of federal prosecutors in the country. what if every one of them who thought the president might have information to bring into his investigation got to subpoena the president and bring him in. the president wouldn't be able to do his very important job which is much more important, by the way, than a prosecutor's job, right? so the president has executive privilege and generally speaking in the justice
department, in order to get that kind of access to the president, to get an interview, to even ask for an interview you would have to show there was a serious crime at issue that the president was somehow implicated in and that the president was the source of information that you, the prosecutor, could not get from any other source. >> bill: that's why giuliani says right -- write a report and show us what you've got. >> that's a reasonable request because forget about investigative secrecy, it is more important for the public to know if the president is a suspect. if he is let's hear what it's about. job well done. thank you for being back with us. >> sandra: president trump getting some big praise this morning from j.p. morgan chase ceo jamie diamond and why he says president trump should get all the credit for the booming economy. >> bill: massive jewelry heist leads to seven arrests. it's where these men are from that is raising a few eyebrows. stay tuned for that and we'll tell you next.
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>> sandra: according to federal law enforcement sources the seven men charged with trying to rob a texas jewelry store over the weekend were in america illegally. william la jeunesse is live in los angeles on this. william. >> well, sandra, most immigrants come to the united states looking for a better life but not through crime. the seven mexicans you see here, the mug shots snuck over the border in texas two weeks ago to rob a jewelry store in mcallen. customers thought they heard gunshots when the gang broke display cases to steal watches and diamond rings. that prompted the 911 call of an active shooter. police rolled out the swat team. take a look at the surveillance video from inside the store. you will see a security guard top left a family on the right stunned as these seven masked
thieves rush in, one holding a gun, orders the security guard to lay down. moments later a local police officer working mall security will storm in, gun drawn. he gets unexpected backup from the guy in the red shirt, an armed citizen with a conceal carry permit. they secured the scene. the seven are between 17 and 43 years old. all were apprehended for entering the united states illegally. charges with aggravated robbery, bond set at $200,000 each. they want u.s. taxpayers to pay their lawyer because they claim to be broke. local news reports say the men paid $4500 to get smuggled over the border. a felony. they could be deported before or after their sentencing. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: the trial for former paul manafort about to get underway. how this could effect the
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welcome-to-to a new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. paul manafort in court at this hour. kellyanne conway saying it is about paul manafort, not the president. >> i certainly wasn't making money in ukraine or talking to anyone in moscow. that's very clear. this has nothing to do with collusion, russia, nothing to do with the trump campaign. >> bill: peter doocy live from district court in alexandria, virginia. >> the government's case against paul manafort is expected to focus less on allegations of wrongdoing while he was the trump campaign chairman and more on allegations that he cheated on his taxes years before. manafort this morning was taken from jail to the albert v. bryan courthouse in a van for
the high-profile proceedings where special counsel robert mueller's team alleges there are $60 million he earned over the years lobbying or consulting for politicians in ukraine that never popped up on a pay stub. the judge in this case, t.s. ellis, has said in the course of these proceedings it is his opinion the mueller team is using the financial charges that have nothing to do with the 2016 election to get manafort to dish dirt on the trump campaign but he thought about it and allowed the trial to continue anyway. the mueller team in the courtroom is led by andrew wiseman whose specialties are organized crime services in the d.o.j. manafort's lawyers made a big stir when they arrived this morning led by kevin downing who worked for years on the other side as the justice department tax case prosecutor and the manafort team's job is to get the jury, being selected this morning, to think like president trump who has said
recently that he feels badly for paul manafort, somebody who only worked for his campaign a few months but wound of having years and years of his financial records scrutinized by the special counsel all leading to today. >> bill: peter doocy starting our coverage there. >> sandra: a major test for mueller and the russia investigation. let's go to the a-team, john mccormack senior writer at the weekly standard, morgan ortagus from the treasury department and richard fowler. this is a big test. >> having worked in the treasury department and financial intelligence it comes back to the money. you can always follow the money. that's what this case is about. the president and his team will go at length to show that this isn't about russian collusion, it is about manafort's shady activity for many years that people knew about. so the democrats are clearly going to try to use this and keep the russia investigation in the press but i think we'll see what happens with the
lawyers. when it comes to the money, when it comes to following the money and the finances, i did this for many years as it relates to terrorism and it's typically where you tend to get people. >> for this to advance the whole russia investigation as it affects the presidential campaign we need new information that we don't have yet. the thing everyone is waiting for is to see is manafort going to provide new information about the trump tower meeting with don junior, man fort and the russians. that's speculations. >> bill: will it come up in the trial? >> i don't think so. >> as andy mccarthy pointed out mueller could squeeze him and offer him a deal. that assumes manafort has information to give. this is all speculation. kind of speculation outpacing the known facts. >> i think john makes a good point. this first test for the mueller team. will they get a prosecution and will mueller go to jail.
will he be sentenced. will he give information about what happened in that trump tower meeting between don junior, himself, and a couple of other individuals part of the trump campaign and will the mueller team sort of stand the test of time? that will be the big question as we begin the first day of this trial and jury selection, whether or not the mueller team is tough enough. >> sandra: kellyanne said the judge instructed no mention of his role in the trump campaign or russia or collusion. >> this is just the democrat fantasy we'll get a huge russia revelation from manafort in this campaign. this is a classic money laundering financial scam case that the prosecutors are pursuing and that's what will come out of it. everyone would love theatrics before november but i don't think you'll get that. >> i don't think democrats are wishing for some major russia bombshell.
>> richard. >> i don't think they're waiting for a major bombshell from the manafort investigation. what we're pointing to is trump has paraded himself is a great businessman who picks great people and manafort isn't a good person and head of the campaign for four months. he ran this campaign and for some -- he got trump to the convention. that's a big deal. >> bill: we're all guessing right now. let's leave it as a guess as it gets underway. iran, what a bombshell this was yesterday. the president sends out a threatening message a week ago and yesterday at the news conference with the italian prime minister he says the following at the white house. >> president trump: i believe in meeting. i would certainly meet with iran if they wanted to meet. i don't know they're ready yet. they're having a hard time right now. i ended the iran deal. it was a ridiculous deal. i do believe they'll end up wanting to meet and i'm ready to meet any time they want to. i don't do that from strength
or weakness. i think it's an appropriate thing to do. if we could work something out that's meaningful, not the waste of paper that the other deal was, i would certainly be willing to meet. >> bill: take that invitation, john. >> this is the continuation of president barack obama's diplomacy. he got roasted by republicans and hillary clinton in 2007-2008 saying he would meet without pre-conditions with leaders of rogue regimes. talking for the sake of talking is a mistake. if you don't go in there with a strategic goal you go off script and say things like kim jong-un is a leader who loves his people and they love him with great fervor. you give legitimacy to the most brutal dictator in the world and entertain ideas that vladimir putin throws out there, russia is investigating and interrogating americas. talking for the sake of talking is a bad idea but an idea that has bipartisan support.
>> sandra: it is not stopping critics from questioning the move by the president. >> my question is who would he talk to? would he talk to rohany or the ayatollah. it's the ayatollah running the government, not rouhani. >> bill: iran is being squeezed. >> i'm like -- i was incredibly critical of the iran deal and people talk about the president's rhetoric and policy actions relating to russia or north korea. when you look at pompeo, mattis, bolton, all his top administration officials are pushing his policy and testifying on the hill. they caught a moment of vulnerability for this regime and wise to continue to push back against iran and i hope that's the policy they continue with. >> meeting with them is not the answer. it comes down to the straits of
-- if there is any messing around the movement of oil out of the middle east and we don't find a way to keep that strait open that's going to change world trade. >> i agree with richard why the straits are so important. you saw the iranians captured the american sailors and embarrassed us nationally. the iranians will never do that to president trump i will predict. >> bill: everybody is talking about the mid-terms. can you go anywhere? >> it's why i stay out of the politics. >> bill: ronna mcdaniel, a big rally tonight in tampa. the president is trying to drive turnout. ron desantis gets the support tonight. >> you're seeing where the energy of the republican party is right now and it is solidly behind the president. and as he has endorsed in the
races you've seen a shift for the candidates he supported. you saw it with kemp, mcmaster in south carolina and kate arrington in south carolina. as he endorses the candidates his base goes to the candidates. >> sandra: how important is the president when it comes to these endorsements in the mid-terms? >> it's very important in the republican primaries. what is more interesting about florida is the senate race. confounding expectations with rick scott running for senate. expect a purple state like florida if there is a blue wave florida wouldn't be on the map. this is a toss-up. rick scott is up a few points in some polls, down in other. >> bill: a good governor. >> very popular with the hispanic community in florida. running above what some other republicans have done. so that's a real race to watch in a way that tennessee surprising the democrats are pulling ahead there and surprising that republicans are in the fight. >> i couldn't agree more.
as a fifth generation floridian and a miss citrus. bill nelson has been incredibly weak for many years. it's surprising we haven't been able to beat him before now. that senate race is one i'll watch. i expect rick scott to pull out. i would say in the florida race the governor's race clearly the president is giving a big advantage to ron desantis. don't count adam putnam out. pam bondi has endorsed him. when it comes to local politics on the ground the sheriffs are all behind putnam. that will be a real race. >> the problem with the president weighing in on the primaries he will pick those farther to the right. florida is a purple state and have 60,000 new residents from puerto rico and they have an axe to grind with the president and change the voter registration and likely vote democrats. this is going to be a big race to watch for the democratic
party and the big race to watch for the republicans. i think you can't look at florida in a vacuum. you need to look at all the races. the president threatening a government shutdown, a lot of races to watch. the koch brothers saying we're willing to play with republicans and democrats like heidi heitkamp in the dakotas. an interesting mid-term to say the least. >> we'll be in tampa tonight. a big year for desantis. strong of crime, borders, big help on tax and regulations. he has my full and total endorsement. here is what's going on. with exception of the pennsylvania race, when the president inserts himself into the election he moves the meter. adam putnam was ahead in the polls two months ago. it has changed entirely and desantis would give credit to trump. >> the president owns the party. 88 to 90% approval ratings among the gop. republican president fantasize over that. the key will be, i think,
vulnerable house districts around the country can the president's magic come out in those districts and help republicans keep the house. >> he moves the primary but not the general election. we saw in alabama he engaged in the primary, got more out of the primary and lost the general election bigly in his words. he weighs in on the primary but he cannot pull it out in the general which will be the biggest problem for republicans in the mid-term elections. >> in the primaries his endorsement matters when both candidates aren't well-known. in alabama he went for luther strange and he lost. when he goes in somewhere like georgia both candidates are well-known his endorsement matters a lot. >> sandra: a-team will be back for more. >> bill: the president wants to talk to bob mueller. seems like his legal team are saying ain't going to happen. judge alberto gonzales is here on that. did you see this from last night? roll it.
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because a lot of things we did hurt ourselves. >> sandra: he sounds excited about what he is seeing. >> he is excited. it creates things for banks like j.p. morgan. he is right. critics will say what exactly did trump do. show me. the day after he was elected all the indicators, whether it was from housing confidence, small business confidence, even consumer confidence went through the roof. that's what you need first. and then what we're seeing now is a manifestation of all that and creates a cycle. the more people that get hired the more money they spend, the more money they spend the more people you have to hire. we're in the midst of that right nou. >> sandra: jamie diamond, to be clear, is a democrat, right? >> he is a democrat and also a globalist and he does things like with the business round table. he is the kind of guy -- these people benefit from the status
quo big time. they typically don't want anyone rocking the boat. >> sandra: to be clear, he has been critical of the president in the past and even at one point predicted he would be a one-term president. watch this clip. >> if i had to bet i would bet 3 1/2 but the democrats have to come with a reasonable candidate. if they have a complete leftist candidate trump will win again. >> sandra: he will ask how long with the president last. 3 1/2 years he suggested. he has come around on this president. >> i think a lot of people will ultimately given time and when reality overtakes the hype and the news feeds and the opinion pages, when reality is an individual -- >> sandra: hard economic numbers. >> you wake up and you are making more money and you have a job and a relative who thought they would never get back into the workforce because they add criminal record or something like that and they're working. things start to ignore the
headlines that have swayed your opinion until then. >> bill: it's all about your pocket and my pocket, right, about sandra? >> sandra: always about me, hemmer. >> we want everyone to do well around us. it starts at home. >> bill: let's talk about the markets. we talk about it every commercial. true story. we saw some high flyers take pretty big hits this past week, facebook, netflix, a bit of amazon and google. they have been responsible for a lot of the run-up we've seen. >> almost all of it. six or seven names have been responsible for the gains. amazon was responsible for 36% of the overall move. what we're seeing now is these companies they grow fast but the expectations get higher and higher and higher and what we're seeing now is a couple of them will have some trouble right now getting the benefit of the doubt.
facebook under a tremendous amount of pressure. in the last five days it's down 19% down for the year. netflix for a little while. netflix did pretty good. the ceo overhyped what they were going to do and didn't deliver on it. >> sandra: what's happening today. triple digit gain, the dow up 107 points as we speak. what's leading it? >> we were going to open flat and we came up big. big report out that the united states and china have restarted trade negotiations. what i find interesting about this, before that report in china this morning, they came out with some key manufacturing data. one of their most important manufacturing pieces of manufacturing data had a 23-month low. they're feeling the pain. it would behoove them to come to the table and cut a deal very quickly. and i think that's why you saw the news this morning. >> bill: you think we have leverage on that? >> we have so much more leverage than anyone would
expect. they talked about soybeans being a mid-term election issue and they tried to write off friday's gdp report as a -- the gains are enormous and we can't underscore how much power america has. this is our last chance to fix this. this is the last chance, folks. if you like it the way it is now that's fine. it is not going to get better unless we make it better. >> sandra: charles payne bringing the pain. >> great seeing you. >> sandra: fox news alert. the father of a missing iowa college student making a desperate plea for help. >> she is a very special person and we all feel that. but we need her back. she needs to be back in school, she needs to finish her degree. >> sandra: what investigators are now saying as the search intensifies for mollie tibbetts. >> bill: paul manafort becoming
mueller's first target facing trial this hour. alberto gonzales is our headliner coming up next.
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information from it. mollie is described as an avid runner known to wear her fit bit to give authorities critical information including her exact gps location and heart rate. have investigators pull information from that. she was staying at her boyfriend's house in brooklyn, iowa, when she went missing. her boyfriend was working 100 miles away and not named as a suspect. mollie's father is pleading to the public. >> if nobody has anything to hide they have nothing to fear. let law enforcement sort out what's right and wrong and have the courage to come forward and find mollie. she needs to be back in school, she needs to finish her degree. get her masters, ph.d., get married, buy a house, have kids. these are things we talked about. she has her whole life planned out. she needs to get on with her life so we have to find her.
>> mollie's laptop and social media might reveal she made it back inside her boyfriend's house the day she went missing. we'll bring you the latest in this case. >> sandra: that family desperate for any tips or leads that may still come in. >> bill: 10:30 in new york. a dramatic showdown in virginia. the trial for trump's former campaign manager paul manafort is underway. it will be the first test for the special counsel bob mueller and his investigation. want to bring in our headliner on that note judge alberto gonzales. former a.g. under george w. bush and author of a book. congratulations on the book and thanks for being our headliner. >> always good to be on your show. >> bill: what do you think is important to watch in the manafort matter now? >> well, i think bob mueller and his team by all accounts
has really i think established a strong predicate for successful prosecution here. i think we're on the eve -- i think the chances of paul manafort trying to reach some kind of deal has passed us and i think the trial is going to proceed and we have to see the case be laid out by the prosecution. by all accounts paul manafort believes he is innocent and will be able to be successful in this trial. that remains to be seen. i had a lot of confidence in bob mueller when he was my f.b.i. director. i suspect he has done his homework and worked with the team and has a strong case. we'll have to see what happens. i don't know whether paul manafort believes he is innocent. i assume he does. there is a lot of risk for him and his liberty. perhaps he is also hoping or anticipating that if unsuccessful the president may pardon him. we'll have to wait and see. that's a long shot. i don't think you go into this
thinking even if i get convicted i still may get a pardon. that's a big risk. he obviously has a lot on the table. >> sandra: based on everything you just said is it fair to say this is the first big test of the mueller probe? >> well, i wouldn't call it part of the mueller probe. i think this is a case that probably would have been brought irrespective of the appointment of a special counsel. wrongdoing -- the alleged wrongdoing was discovered in connection with the mueller probe but it is quite possible that this would have come to light in any event. and so i don't really consider this part of the russia probe. i think this is simply a case where bob mueller has found evidence that an american citizen has engaged in bank fraud and tax evasion and so because it does come out of his investigation of russian meddling, the mandate given to him by rod rosenstein, allows him to go forward with this prosecution and that's what he is doing. >> bill: i think kellyanne conway agrees with you.
she was with us last hour and characterized it the same way. listen to what she said. >> the judge has very strictly instructed no mention of paul manafort's role in the trump campaign. this trial obviously centers on matters that have nothing to do with the campaign. i think that even mr. manafort, as i read it, had requested that there be no mention of his brief tenure at the trump campaign. >> bill: andrew mccarthy chipped in last hour. he called in a bigger question about the fundamentals what are happening-in-law. >> this case, while it has been called the first test of mueller's investigation, to my mind really isn't. it's a test of whether he can get manafort convicted of something but it really tells us very little about the thing he is here to investigate. it's a fair question to ask,
bill, what do we need a special counsel for? >> bill: can you answer that? >> i agree that a normal prosecutor outside the authority of a special counsel could have prosecuted this case. but that would have been a waste of resources in my judgment given the fact that the special counsel's office in connection with the mueller probe has discovered all this information and does have the authority to -- the broad authority under the rosenstein grant of authority to move forward with this prosecution. so i think it would be a waste of resources and time to simply have allocated this to another office and so, you know, but i totally agree. >> bill: has -- >> a prosecutor that didn't have a special counsel designation could have brought this. >> the special counsel law, has it gone too broad? >> well, i think it's a question of who you ask. if you're on the law enforcement side probably say maybe not.
if you're someone that is subject to possible investigation unrelated to the initial charge for the special counsel you might say that it has gone overboard. if you ask bill clinton he would say it is too broad quite frankly. but again the question here is whether or not a federal crime has been committed irrespective of who will prosecute it and who is investigating it. has a federal crime been committed and if so it should be investigate i had and prosecuted. people who engage in wrongdoing should be held to account. >> sandra: based on that it's still a question because robert mueller won't tell us to be asked. shouldn't the president be asked to sit down with a one-on-one with mueller. >> that's a question for the special counsel to ask and there are stories reporting that request has been made and, of course, the key question is whether or not will the president sit down for an interview. most defense lawyers would say
and advise their client not to sit down for an interview. i think there is a legitimate question whether or not a president could even be prosecuted for perjury. there is i think a legitimate question as to how far a prosecutor can go in trying to force a president to produce evidence such as documents orrall testimony. these are all questions that could be teed up depending on the way bob mueller decides to move forward with the investigation and future prosecution. >> bill: brett kavanaugh will move forward. rand paul says he is a yes. that probably clears the path for his ascension to the supreme court. you are talking about the outrageous excuse given opposed to his service because he served in the bush administration. what should we know about comments from people like chuck schumer on the floor of the senate who said the following. >> senate republicans are only
requesting documents from two of the five years that judge kavanaugh was in the white house. only documents from his time in the white house counsel's office, not as staff secretary. >> bill: you have that. some are suggesting it could be a million pages or more from his time at the white house. what do you think of that, sir? >> i think it's unfair to paint brett with responsibility or authority with respect to every piece of paper that goes to the staff secretary's office and finds its way to the president of the united states. the job of the staff secretary is to make sure the appropriate people with responsibility and expertise weigh in on policy matters so that when documents go to the president, everyone who has information with respect to that particular issue has commented on that policy issue. and again, brett's role as staff secretary was not in any way to shape policy but make sure appropriate people have looked at the issue at hand. i think to paint brett with
responsibility for everything that went through that staff secretary's office quite frankly is unfair. >> sandra: should he be confirmed? >> no question in my mind he should be confirmed unless there is something in his background that i'm unaware of. he has been vetted before. brett was one of my lawyers when i was white house counsel. very bright and hard working, a person of great integrity from my perspective. not arrogant. people liked working with brett and i think his service on the d.c. circuit has been outstanding. i think he would make a fine justice on the u.s. supreme court. >> bill: i hope you come back soon. thank you for your time, alberto gonzales. our headliner today. thank you, sir. >> sandra: the tsa firing back against a new report that claims they are spying on everyday americans while traveling through u.s. airports and in the air. is their surveillance program protecting against 9/11 style attacks or big brother going too far? our a-team is here. >> bill: president trump back
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next flight to monitor the person seems a little creepy to me. it's a new program. i think you need to know if you are actually stopping anything. the previous behavior of federal air marshals was to go on high-risk flights not track specific people. these are public locations, but a lot of questions need to be answered here. >> sandra: what they're doing with the information they seem to be gathering. they are reporting federal air marshals are tracking everyday u.s. citizens that are going about their daily behavior, whether traveling through the airports or on the airplane itself. >> transparency and accountability. making sure the tsa is accountable and transparent to the american people coming on the heels of the big story from the tsa a couple weeks ago of their pack-on procedures. intrusive at best. tsa has a bad track record and now tracking how you stare at them and understanding a lot of americans who have travel
anxiety, who don't like to fly. giving somebody a cold stare in tsa isn't necessarily a reason to get tracked. >> bill: we're no different to the cop on the corner placed this because there is an increased possibility that something might happen. when you're in a tube at 30,000 feet it makes sense to put someone there. end quote. >> as a frequent flier i can't believe i'm about to defend the tsa but this is the debate we've been having for 17 years about privacy versus security since 9/11. if we look, the tsa's mission is to prevent an attack by using an airline or at an airport. think about what happened and you know this well from your business background, after 9/11 and the stock market. we saw several airlines that went bankrupt following those attacks. it is not only the safety and security of the airways, it is that we have to have confidence in the security of our air travel around the country. very important to business as
well. >> sandra: john, the tsa in their defense talks about observing behavioral detection and that's where the gray line lies, right? the globe shows the checklist for armed undercover air marshals that ask if the passenger in question is gripping or white knuckling their bags, have a jump in their adams apple or cold, penetrating stare. >> you are worried that they're checking the box. he was gripping his bag tightly and now he is on a list. my boss was on a terror watch list. there are mistakes in the bureaucracies. it is a good thing focusing on behavior. you go overseas and people observe your behavior. if someone is competent and qualified to observe behavior you want to look for things that are unusual. that's what people should be doing. you are worried that -- >> sandra: the story fascinates
people. it's a computer algorithm. then it goes to a human team and they look for red flags in actual background. >> this is a see-saw we've been dealing with for 17 years. i land on the side the terrorists win we give up our civil liberties. how much you grip a bag or have a stare. >> bill: i signed up for clear. >> it's not just the cold stare. it is also a pattern of flying behavior. the human team and algorithm. if you get off a flight from saudi arabia. someone flies from dubuque in albuquerque. >> gripping a bag, cold stare. >> bill: this malaysian air flight mystery will never be solved. not pilot air.
it is like the amelia earhart story of our day. we will never return. >> maybe the messiah returned and we all got left but that plane. >> bill: that would make a story. >> sandra: thank you a-team. >> bill: lebron james is calling out the white house, what's new on that? we'll tell you why. a new survey says people drinking and shopping are a bad combo. >> have you ever done it? >> the 24/7 crew apparently has.
bringing up a point lebron says we can all agree with as sports fan. sports was always the saving grace. we have sports to keep us from talking about politics. but the two now have intersected and leah gabriel brought up a good point. who started this? who kneeled first? colin kaepernick kneeled first and the president responded to this because i believe the commissioner of the nfl did not do so in a strong enough, effective matter. what started as a one or two alarm fire is like five or six alarms and no one has a clue how to put it out. >> sandra: how are fans responding to lebron's remarks here? >> people who are pro-trump will bash what he says and vice versa. lebron james is a powerful figure. >> bill: a lot of people listen to him. moving to l.a. will give him a bigger voice. do you think he has a future in politics? >> if he wanted to he could. he opened up a public school
for at-risk third and fourth graders. he has much bigger dreams than just the basketball court. you wonder if lebron james -- he is not running for president. if he said i want to become the president, he would get some votes. >> he was asked that question last night. if nobody else is going to run for office and president trump was going to win and you were the only saving grace for the democratic party would you run? he said yeah, maybe i would. i don't know if politics is really in his future but he was asked that question. >> bill: will he be #46? >> no, no. >> #23 times two. i don't think so. >> he was asked last night also if he was sitting across the table from the president, what would he say to the president? he said i would never sit across the table from president trump. and my question here is how are people supposed to come together if you can't even talk to the people that you disagree with? i also think that president
trump missed a major opportunity when he disinvited the golden state warriors and eagles to the white house as well. it could have been a cool moment that he missed. i think people need to come together and start talking about it in a serious way. >> sandra: so many ask themselves is it a good idea to drink and shop? >> i will say it's not a good idea. i'll get to why later. but there was a new study that found out that people spend $30 billion a year shopping while drinking. essentially drunk shopping. the interesting thing here how much you spend depends on what you drink. gin drinkers spend the most. >> also the shopping late friday night. people are buying lingerie big time on friday nights. an interesting one. kids know what their parents,
they see mom or dad has had a few and the perfect time to ask for the toy or something and kids do it. they know their parents. have we ever made a purchase that our inhibitions were down? >> it's so easy to shop online now. a click of a button and you have your perfect toy. >> sandra: if you do it, save it to the cart and maybe push the purchase button on the cart the next day when you put thought into it. >> i've never done that before. >> outside of a pizza? >> pizza for sure and why it's a bad idea. 50% of people returning the things that they purchased when they do this. >> maybe not so good for the retailers. >> eating choices. you are more likely to say i'll get that. there is a reason why in nevada it's against the law for casinos to allow visibly drunk customers to gamble. there is a reason why. >> what a story. thanks to both of you.
>> bill: trump and lebron would get along very well for the record. >> i'm with you. >> sandra: we're watching the images coming out of california this morning. monster wildfires sweeping across the west as firefighters from across the country run in to help crews stretched to the limit. we're live on the ground there in moments. plus another big story we're watching today. president trump saying he is willing to meet with iran's president without any pre-conditions. congressman lee zeldin is on go deck and the push for stronger border security from the trump administration. all this is our third hour of "america's newsroom." come right back. sleep cycle... ...so you can seize the morning. new! zzzquil pure zzzs. new laptop with 24/7 tech support. yep, thanks guys. i think he might need some support. yes
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>> sandra: fox news alert on new reaction to the president's offer to the leader of iran, a sit-down with no strings attached. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." good tuesday morning. i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. president trump says he is ready to meet any time anywhere where the iranian president as he has had two other high-profile sit-downs with adversaries. kellyanne conway making that point on "america's newsroom." >> the president has made clear he is open to conversation and negotiation. he has done that with chairman kim and mr. putin. he has always said if it's not a good deal for the united states and our interest and workers and security he will walk away any time. he is always open to negotiation and conversation.
>> bill: john roberts on the north lawn with us today. john, good morning. starting a new hour, how are you? >> good morning. i'm doing fine, thanks. the president again playing his bad cop/good cop routine this time with iran. yesterday at a press conference with the italian prime minister surprising the nation by saying that he would be willing to meet with iran's leader rouhani without pre-condition. listen here. >> president trump: i believe in meeting. i would certainly meet with iran if they wanted to meet. i don't know if they're ready net. they're having a hard time now. i don't do it from strength or weakness. it is an appropriate thing to do. if we could work something out that's meaningful. not the waste of paper that the other deal was, i would certainly be willing to meet. >> the offer follows a stern warning from the president on twitter two weeks ago when he threatened iran with consequences the likes of which through throughout history have
ever suffered. the immediate reaction was to reject talks unless the u.s. goes back to the iran deal. they said the united states is not trustworthy. how could we trust this country when it withdraws from the nuclear deal? the president is following the script that he followed with north korea, harsh sanctions, punishing rhetoric against the leadership eventually ending up in a meeting which may or may not lead anywhere in the long term. the president also taking aim at the powerful koch brothers who pledged 400 million to support policy and candidates the president tweeting out this morning, quote, the globalist koch brothers who have become a joke in real republican -- i don't need their money or bad ideas. they love my tax and regulation cuts, judicial picks and more. i made them richer.
their network is highly overrated. they want to protect their companies outside the u.s. from being taxed. i'm for the american worker. two nice guys with bad ideas, make america great again. the tweet comes after the koch brothers announced yesterday that they were not going to throw their support behind kevin kramer, the republican candidate for the senate seat in north dakota locked in a tight race with the democrat heidi heitkamp. here is what the rnc chairwoman said earlier this morning. >> it was very disappointing to see they won't support kevin kramer in this all-too important north dakota senate race. heitkamp hasn't been a supporters of the policies of the president and kevin kramer has. >> the race is an important one. the gop thinks they may be able to pick up a seat increasing margins in the senate. the real clear politics average
has the race within a single point. kramer leads by a half point. the koch brothers oppose the president's plan on tariffs. there is at least a couple of areas there where they are clearly in disagreement. >> bill: thank you, john. nice to see you. thank you, sir. >> sandra: president trump heading to florida a bit later today for another big mid-term campaign rally. this one for ron desantis who is running for governor in that all-important swing state. minutes from now we will be speaking with desantis live but first rnc chair ronna mcdaniel earlier on "america's newsroom." >> you're seeing where the emergency of the republican party is now, solidly behind the president. as he endorses these candidates his base goes to these candidate and gives them a big boost and you are seeing it in florida right now. >> sandra: mike warren with us now. are you seeing the energy of the republican party as ronna
mcdaniel just said solidly behind this president? >> certainly among primary voters. we saw that recently in georgia where the georgia republican nominee brian kemp got a big boost in the runoff because of an endorsement from president trump. it seems to me the most important issue in any contested republican primary is donald trump and whether or not you are behind donald trump or not. or whether or not you are strong enough supporter of donald trump. ron desantis running against adam putnam. putnam a long-time florida politician. young but in congress and the state legislature and agriculture commissioner and checked all the right boxes, ron desantis has supported the president and an ad showing him reading to his infant son the art of the deal. so grab onto donald trump. >> sandra: building the wall, right? >> yes. you have to grab onto donald trump if you want to succeed
and really that's the most and maybe the only important thing in a primary. >> sandra: speaking of ads. adam putnam got the endorsement of pam bondi. she was a staunch trump supporter and went to bat for the president. she is now in putnam's camp. what a difference a debate and endorsement by the president makes when you look at that particular race with ron desantis and adam putnam. >> i think the momentum has gone in desantis's direction. a couple of recent polls showing him ahead of putnam and i think the writing is on the wall. you have president trump going down there, very popular among florida republicans. and i think that you are likely to see what happened to brian kemp happen to ron desantis. it is really the only issue. i haven't seen or heard anything in the debates or in these ads that really distinguishes the two candidates on any issues. really the only important issue
here is donald trump. >> sandra: meanwhile the president's next move as far as his policies are concerned in the potential he is saying no pre-conditions necessary with a potential meeting with the iranian president. a lot of reaction pouring into that this morning. any time, anywhere, says the president. >> this seems like something that was an off the cuff remark from the president. i'm told there is nothing really being discussed at the white house about any kind of meeting. again, last week there was this blowup over twitter and i think there is a big question here that supporters of the president need to be asking, which is could the president be willing to go and renegotiate a nuclear deal that essentially recasts the sanctions relief the obama nuclear deal did? these sanctions that are coming that have got the iranians really upset are having a big effect. even the sanctions aren't there yet and having a big effect on
the economy. but i think there is a fear among some iran hawks the president might be willing to renegotiate and pull those sanctions off again if he is in some kind of one-on-one meeting with rouhani or anybody in the iranian regime. >> sandra: mike warren, senior writer at the weekly standard. you set it up for us. that big rally will be happening tonight down in florida with the president and 7:00 hour. it's expected. >> bill: we'll be watching it. fox news alert on the raging wildfires in california. crews are battling more than a dozen fires. triple digit temperatures. the winds are gusty. thousands of buildings are burned or destroyed and countless residents forced from their homes. jeff paul live in redding, california by the carr fire, the biggest of those burning now. how are things today? good morning. >> good morning, bill. the carr fire continues to grow in size but containment levels are up now at 27%. firefighters tell us that they feel like they have a better
hold on this fire and as a result they're starting to allow the first round of evacuees to return home. unfortunately many of them are pulling into their driveways to find a scene like this. as you take a look over here you can see house after house in this redding neighborhood destroyed. many residents coming home will have to face that reality that they have lost everything. the fire right now is at 110,000 acres. the number of dead remains at six people. two children and their great grandmother, two firefighters and one other person who has yet to be identified. close to 1,000 structures destroyed. that number could rise as the fire continues to threaten a few additional thousand homes with the fire still burning. >> i lost it all. every bit of it. i'm sorry. it's just been devastating, period. it is so hard. i just can't get my mind around it. i lost everything.
they gave you five minutes to get out. what do you grab in five minutes? >> along the california coast, some fires have grown in size. but containments are getting better. two fires have burned more than 75,000 acres and they're threatening 12,000 structures. to complicate matters while it is a little cooler here, bill, we're calling out here -- forecasts are calling for another dry and hot day throughout those areas where the wildfires are burning, bill. >> bill: jeff paul in redding, california on that. >> sandra: fox news alert new reaction coming in from president trump as the company is one day now away from making untraceable 3d printed guns available to the public. how several states and washington are responding. >> bill: as we mentioned president trump heading to florida today rallying for his preferred candidate for
governor. hotly contested primary. congressman ron desantis wants to be the next governor in florida and make his case for us live coming up today. >> sandra: president trump repeating his threat to shut down the government over his immigration demands. can a shutdown be avoided? representative joni ernst is here and she joins us next. >> president trump: if we don't get border security after many, many years of talk within the united states, i would have no problem doing a shutdown.
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we've been considering for several days and take four more big steps toward our goal of completing a regular appropriations process and funding the government in a timely and orderly manner. >> sandra: iowa republican senator joni ernst joins us now. thank you for joining us on the program this morning. are you as optimistic as the majority leader? >> i am. i do think we can get our appropriations bill done. we've been working very hard at them. we would rather not see a government shutdown. i do think the president needs to be heard when he talks about making sure our borders are secure, building the wall and reforming our immigration process. i think we all can work together on that. >> sandra: kellyanne conway joined us from the white house earlier this morning and really set up what this debate looks like as we head toward the mid-term elections. less than 100 days away. watch this. >> this president could not be more clear for the last three plus years now on what he thinks about a broken immigration system and repeated
it yesterday and catch and release, releasing people into the interior of this country. ending chain migration. going to a merit-based system of immigration and of course having that wall. having border security. it is a stark contrast to the democratic party running to abolish ice. >> sandra: how do things play out this fall? >> well, i think we can continue working on our appropriations bills. i think that is really important. and at some point we do need to have a vigorous debate on immigration. we can't avoid this. we do have to protect our nation. we have to make sure our borders are strong. and of course we need immigration. we have an unemployment rate of 2.7% in iowa and we know that we need workers both skilled and unskilled. and we certainly aren't growing our own so we know that we need help with that. but we have to debate these items and we have to be very thoughtful about it. we can't get emotional about the issue. we have to do what is right for
our country. >> sandra: as far as your concerns in your state, senator, about the president's policy on trade and tariffs, i say this as we're a couple hours into the trading day. u.s. stock market, dow is up triple digits right now. some of those concerns have been eased. this is on the mind of those that live in your state every single day. what do you tell them? >> well, i had the opportunity to visit with them over the weekend because i was out doing county tours and town halls. so many of our farmers and those engaged in the agricultural industry are very concerned about trade and tariffs. but we know the economy is doing well. it just happens to be our ag secretary the markets are down. we want to see trade and we saw a little bit of hope there with the e.u. and the fact they'll be purchasing more soybeans. so if the president can get good deals for us, seal up the deal with mexico and canada and move to other free trade
agreements we'll be doing just fine. but again we want to see that trade. we want to see open markets. we would rather have that than, of course, the aid that is being proposed by the federal government. >> sandra: the numbers coming out of the chamber of commerce showing that bailing out all sectors hit by the president's tariffs would cost $39 billion, senator. >> yeah. that's way too much. the farmers that i have spoken with have said we don't want aid, we don't need the subsidies. what we want to see the fa -- the fact that we can grow our goods and get them to new and developing markets. i encourage to president to keep pushing. let's get good deals and done soon so we don't lose great opportunity and a great economy here in the united states. >> sandra: we hear your message. senator joni ernst, good to have you on the program. >> bill: new images out of north korea. what they may some about the
country's nuclear program and intent. how concerned should the u.s. and our allies be? what's the real price tag for the medicare for all plan being pushed by bernie sanders. the number is in and it's a doozy. dr. marc siegel is here next.
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would boost healthcare spending by more than $32 trillion over 10 years. that would mean a lot of taxes. dr. marc siegel fox news contributor and professor of medicine. $32 trillion. do you believe that number? >> came out of a reputable study out of george mason in virginia. that's more than double the amount of taxes individuals and corporations pay over 10 years. we would have to somehow raise money double what we're already paying in taxes to fund this. that's a lot of money. i don't know -- there are ways it would save money. decreases administrative costs. medicare and medicaid are less in cost than private insurance. they would use the block to negotiate drug prices. two savings. cost, no co-pays or deductibles. if you have a co-pay or deductible you might think twist before spending it. with medicare for all, single
payer, you don't have that. second problem is rationing. in canada which is single payer you can't get a hip replacement when you need one or the stent when you need one. wait three or four weeks to get a cardiac stent with chest pain. it's not the first time the $32 trillion has been floated out there. i believe this number. this is a huge, huge expense. >> bill: we'll hear a lot about it. many democrats are talking about it. as we get into this campaign you'll hear more about it. do you see this as ever possible in america? >> two reasons it's not going to happen in america. you point out in america. australia has a system of single payer that works with medicare for all but that's for basic catastrophic needs. it won't work in america for
two reasons. one, we talked about the price tag. two, it's a direct attack on the employer healthcare system. 170 million people are already insured through their employer. it works for employer and employee. employer doesn't have to pay taxes on the amount that they are giving and for the employee it's an incentive. i'll take that job. i get my health coverage through that. that is a system under direct attack. >> bill: we'll hear more about this as a political issue. you say it's a pipe dream. >> the insurance companies will never let this happen. they are a lobby in the united states and why a democrat talking point. our insurance industry i think, you've heard me say this many times, is too strong. i think the insurer is in the doctor's office interfering with doctor and patient but they're powerful. let's replace them with the government? also should not be interfering. >> bill: high taxes a lot. i don't know what you have to pay. is it 80% or 90%, whatever the number is.
the reason people like sanders like this. they argue administrative costs are lower and you would be able to negotiate drug prices better and more competitively. do you believe that? >> yes, i believe that but i also think that the trump administration is on the right track with getting more generics approved and more competition and more choice. that's on the right track. i like free market solutions to this. i think medicare for all would be hugely expensive and not deliver what it is promising. look, bill, we're coming into a time of innovation. we're talking about chemotherapy, immunotherapy and genetic therapies that only work for one person, not the other person. how do you propose single payer covers that? it won't. the treatments of the future won't be covered. >> bill: very good, thank you, sir. $32 trillion over 10 years. >> never going to happen. thank you. >> sandra: the first trial sparked by the mueller investigation currently
underway, the jury being selected in the case involving paul manafort. new details on what is happening inside of that courthouse. we're live on the scene next. >> bill: he wants to be the governor in the state of florida. tonight he will get a big push from the president. congressman ron desantis is here live as he gets ready for the big rally in tampa tonight.
homework and worked with his team and has a very strong case here. >> sandra: peter doocy live from outside the federal courthouse in alexandria, virginia. what's happening there? >> i was just inside where paul manafort is sitting up on the ninth floor in a courtroom wearing a suit unlike the last time he was here where they brought him in a prison jumpsuit. he is quietly observing jury selection which just began. he is sitting in a courtroom he was driven to from jail in the back of a non-descript gray van and the judge in this case t.s. ellis just told a pool of 75 potential jurors he thinks there is nothing more important than jury duty as an american. the 18 charges are for filing false tax returns, bank fraud and conspiracy to commit bank fraud. just yesterday the feds, who months ago car aide out a raid on one of his houses allege he has been hiding $60 million
from the i.r.s. he got consulting or lobbying from ukrainian politicians including some backed by russia but none are from the five months associated with the trump campaign and the white house isn't sweating today's proceedings. >> i would note for your audience, bill, that the judge has very strictly instructed no mention of paul manafort's role in the trump campaign, don't mention trump, russia or collusion. this trial obviously centers on matters that have nothing to do with the campaign. >> back in may the judge in this case accused the special counsel's office of using financial charges to pressure paul manafort into giving robert mueller damaging information about the president. one of the special counsel's prosecutors fired back at the time that he doesn't expect any of the government's witnesses testifying against manafort to mention russia ever. and we certainly have not heard
that here during the jury selection so far. >> sandra: peter doocy, thank you. >> bill: president trump heads to florida, campaign stop another big campaign rally trying to give congressman ron desantis the bump as he looks to become the next governor of florida. ron desantis is my guest now. how are you doing and good day to you? big rally in tampa tonight? what do you think the president has done for your campaign in this primary? >> well, obviously he is the 800 pound gorilla in republican politics. a lot of our voters at the grassroots level are frustrated when they see some republicans not trying to support him. that's something that they look for. are you supporting the president? well, in my case people are seeing that the president is supporting me. that's a great thing to have and especially in a primary when all the candidates try to say a lot of the same things, say they're so conservative. the record doesn't always bear that out. but i think trump's support separates the wheat from the
chaff and i think it has been a big boost for me. >> bill: adam putnam is your primary opponent and has a lot of support in florida. pam bondi and others. what is going to give in this primary? >> i think there are a couple of things. one, bill, we have a different biography. i'm an iraq veteran. served in the navy. he has been in leadership since he was 22. i'm a proven conservative leader and my actions back up the reality. adam is somebody even some of his high-profile supporters have called him amnesty adam putnam for being weak on illegal immigration. he is trying to reinvent himself and it isn't working. you have the president and that factor. there are a number of factors. fox doing a debate early on in the primary was a big differentiator and i think that really reset the race and set the tone and we basically just built momentum from that point
on. >> bill: i have heard you mention that before. the tweet from today. the white house west wing i'll be in tampa later tonight. desantis will be a great governor for florida. big help on tax and regulation cuts, loves our military and vets and has my total endorsement. you will take that into the primary. those who argue the president has been effective supporting primary candidates but not general election candidates. what would you argue on that? >> i think we'll have a lot of success in the general election across the country. here in florida, bill, our state is going in the right direction. we've done a lot of good things under governor scott's leadership. unemployment rate is under 4. an historic opportunity to expand our economic base and really create high-paying jobs because of the trump tax cuts. and i think that florida voters will want to continue with the success and so we've got a good story to tell as republicans down here and i think it will carry the day here. but i also think the president's support in other
key senate races like missouri and north dakota and montana will be critical in bringing more republicans to the u.s. senate starting in 2019. >> bill: you are drawing your campaign tight with the white house. the latest ad you have put out, a little shot of that right now. watch. >> ron loves reading to kids. he reads stories. >> then mr. trump said you're fired. i love that part. >> he is teaching madison to talk. >> make america great again. >> people say ron is all trump but he is so much more. >> that is pretty obvious, sir. >> bill, you know, sometimes in this process you have to be able to take a step back and laugh at yourself a little bit. have a little fun with it. my wife is my best supporter and best friend. i wanted to introduce voters to her and to my family which is number one for me. we also wanted to do it in a way that people could get a little laugh out of and we could have a lighter touch.
for people that are getting upset about it shows they have no sense of humor and they just totally don't get what we were trying to convey. >> bill: ron desantis. thank you for your time. we'll see the rally tonight and watch it live at 7:00 eastern. we'll talk to the other side tomorrow. adam putnam is our guest in "america's newsroom." we'll get his take as the primary battle heats up three weeks away. >> sandra: watching the battle over homemade guns. eight states suing the trump administration over its decision to let a texas company public on-line instructions for 3d printed guns. president trump is still on the fence. president trump responded by tweeting this. i'm looking into the 3d plastic guns being sold to the public. spoke to nra. doesn't seem to make much sense. a senator firing back this morning. >> it doesn't make any sense that your justice department and your state department agreed to make 3d guns
available to the public. as of tomorrow, anyone, including criminals and terrorists, can have access to blueprints for making deadly weapons with the click of a mouse. >> sandra: anita vogel is live in los angeles. a lot of people watching this story, anita. >> yes, definitely. it's the big concern. for anyone not familiar with what this is. a 3d downloadable gun is known as a ghost gun and can be printed at home with a specialized 3d printer and turned into a weapon that's not traceable. that's because you can make it with plastic. the company that makes the designs out of texas is planning to make the drawings available online tomorrow for virtually anyone to see and download. now eight states plus the district of columbia are suing the state department for recently settling with the company allowing them to
publish the blueprints. >> for god sakes, when it comes to something as basic as public safety, our state department saying hey, this is a giveaway for terrorists. it undermines all the hard work everybody here behind me has dedicated much of their professional lives to of keeping us safe. >> because the state department is charged with regulating the sale of firearms outside of the u.s., it was the agency which blocked defense distributed when it wanted to publish the gun blueprints in 2013. two years later the company sued the state department. the owner claiming his free speech rights were being violated by not allowing him to publish. just this past june last month the state department settled the suit saying certain firearms and related items are already widely available for commercial sale but just last week secretary of state mike pompeo said he had reservations about making this information available to just anybody.
>> i asked the state department to please reconsider this decision. i think it has long term national security and domestic security considerations for our country. >> you have my commitment i'll take a look at it. >> defense distributed vowed as of august 1, tomorrow, the age of the downloadable gun begins. the reality is a lot of plans are already online. the issue will likely fall under the purview of the departments of justice and commerce. look for more lawsuits to come. >> sandra: we will indeed. thank you. >> bill: a major headline from yesterday. president trump saying he is willing to meet with the leaders of iran with no strings attached. how is that playing in congress? lee zeldin on the house foreign relations committee is our guest in a moment. first here is senator lindsey graham. >> i would like to listen to what the president has to say in terms of his thinking but beforehand i thought it was a
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>> the president has made a lot of great play calls as relates to iran since coming into office. pulling out of the iran nuclear deal was the right move and pushing back an iranian aggression in iraq and syria. working with allies in that region forming a coalition to push back against iranian aggression in that region. i would love the opportunity to talk to the president why i believe it isn't the right decision to sit down with rouhani at this time. i could see rouhani as he is walking into the meeting talking about how israel is a little satan, america the great satan. chanting death to america. the guy has blood all over his hands as far as dead u.s. service members and this iranian leadership, this regime, i don't want us to prop up and i don't want the imagery in any way, shape or form looking like our nations are equal. the largest state sponsor of terror. i could see them walking into a
meeting with president trump and walking out chanting death to america. there are certain basics in order to earn the ability to sit down with president trump, because iran is desperate for keeping the iran nuclear deal. they're desperate for it, not us. they need to sanctions relief. if they need the meeting, i don't want to see them in any way trying to embarrass our president and country and that's what i'm concerned about is protecting our president and our country in not trusting these iranians in particular that are in charge of their nation. >> sandra: out of the break we showed your colleague in the senate lindsey graham giving the president credit for being tougher on iran. is the president -- could the president even go stronger on iran than he already is in your view? >> of course. the fact is the military option is on the table and real but it is the last possible option. not the one that we want. we want to see effective
multi-lateral diplomacy. we want to see ramping up economic pressure. the information campaign. there are millions of iranians that want a different direction for their nation. when we talk about -- when we hear people in the united states talk about how the most moderate candidates get elected in iran. that's ignoring the fact that 12,000 most moderate candidates don't get allowed access to the ballot. the military option is real so you can get tougher. however, that's not something that i believe that he wants, that our nation wants. but yes, it's on the table. >> sandra: yesterday the president met with the italian prime minister and spent time heaping praise on the country for its tough immigration policies. watch this. >> president trump: the prime minister frankly is with us today because of illegal immigration. italy got tired of it. they didn't want it any longer. i applaud the prime minister for his bold leadership, truly bold. and i hope more leaders will
follow this example, including leaders in europe. >> sandra: all of this is coming, congressman, has the president doubles down on the rhetoric he will shut down the government if he doesn't get funding for his border wall. is this a good play by the president? >> as far as the leverage that he has in the appropriations battle it is good to put that marker down right now to let congress know that congress needs to do its job in insuring our borders are more secured. we have an immigration policy in our nation that is flawed. every nation's backbone is its rule of law, whether it's italy, other nations within europe or the united states of america. this president knows that there are many people and things illegal substances coming across our borders as well that we need to do a better job funding the effort against. where the president wants to combat the heroin and opioid abuse epidemic across our country or combating illegal immigration, the president is making a play call now which is correct in letting him know
sending a message to congress don't come to me at the end of september and try to explain why you didn't do anything at all. that's not an option. >> sandra: congressman lee zeldin in new york. thank you very much, sir. >> bill: "outnumbered" is next. quick preview with melissa francis. >> the trial of paul manafort is underway. it is a small part of robert mueller's russia probe the stakes are sky high legally and politically what a conviction or acquittal with mean for mueller, the president and even the mid-term elections. the president holding a rally in florida tonight. whether he is a king maker for the party is up for debate. we'll debate it. #oneluckyguy at the top of the hour. >> bill: new concerns about north korea's nuclear program. why it now appears chairman kim
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launched if three different test firings last year. this comes after last month's summit involving president trump and north korea leader kim jong-un at which time chairman kim promised he would work towards denuclearization and also amid a meeting today at the dmz between north and south korean generals trying to cool things there. there are other problems. just last week remember we heard secretary of state pompeo admit that north korea continues also to produce fissile material for nuclear bombs and it comes amid other moves by north korea in a positive direction including the dismantling of a missile engine test firing site and what we have been following in the last couple of days, the return of those remains of u.s. service members lost in the korean war. tomorrow they will be repatriated back to hawaii. the takeaway from today's news is nothing is straight forward when it comes to north korea but some good news, some bad news. >> bill: greg palkot in london on that.
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america's credibility and erodes our relationship with nato and allies and sets back a path toward a more stable region and peaceful non-eye nucleanonnuclear future. another round as noted by out president will go into effect in november that will target the oil sector and central bank. this is just getting started. steve: it did at midnight. griff, thank you very much. so in may the president took us out of the iran nuke deal. now this morning the remaining parties to the iran deal, russia, china, the united kingdom, france, germany and the eu have all announced that they will continue to work to keep the financial channels with iran open. and they also hope to keep the exports and import of oil and gas. however, as brian pointed out a little while ago, eventually they are going to have to choose. you want to stand with the iranians? or do you want to stand with the united states of america? so, right now, with those people trying to make that choice are looking for, they
are looking for loopholes. ainsley: this is a different administration. the past administration was giving them money, billions of dollars. a lot of that money was used to you support terrorist organizations and mike huckabee talks about the difference in this administration and how dangerous the iranian leader is. >> they are a rogue regime. they have killed americans. they have kidnapped americans. they have sponsored terrorism around the world. and it's time for them to be accountable for that and pay the price. unless the regime is changed, the behavior won't change. but the proper avenue to see that change is not for the u.s. to go in and intervene and overthrow that government. it's for the people to do it. they almost did it in 2009. the green movement walls an uprising. they were looking for just a little bit of encouragement for the united states and president obama was absolutely stone-cold silent, didn't say a word as 20-year-old women were bleeding in the street from gunshot wounds to the head. that's why this regime is
embolden. brian: there's a couple of things, too. as griff mentioned in november it gets worse because we start going on their main source income. we go after their oil. the output is going to be put in half. why will make it up between russia, saudi arabia and us. we will keep the market flooded so the price of gas stays low. what's happening as late as over the weekend the uprisings are taking place not because of america or organization. these are farmers and shop keepers and taxi drivers are saying we hate the life that we have. and beginning to say that we are no longer blaming the u.s., the great satan. they are not buying it they are beginning to blame their own government. as they scrammibl scramble to bd on the market. last week they tried to take $350 million out of their bank in hamburg, germany and the central bank of germany said no, we are not allowing that. these are the type of things to squeeze a regime to hold
steve: because is he a conservative out in hollywood, he has been viciously attacked. he has lost a lot of work because he is a conservative. but, nonetheless, got to stand up for what he believes. and he says i'm an immigrant but i think we need the president's wall. brian: one of the founding mothers of the anti-trump movement is rosie o'donnell. she is one the first people that's not liked the president when he was just hosting the apprentice. she said he would never win and become president. now she has all these theories president's popularity is because of the russians. she actually went out and said one of the reasons he gets big crowds is because he pays them. look at the ads. he pays them like we do extras in movies. that's a lot of money. steve: rosy loaded up a bus and took 06 performers down to the white house. lafayette square across from the white house. essentially they wanted to raise their voices against the president of the united states he's depicted by
cartoon character there. here's the problem the president is about 250 miles away in bedminster, new jersey, so he missed the show. ainsley: is he closer to have the actual broadway performances in new york than there. steve: they were singing in protest but the songs were beautiful songs. they are broadway songs. listen. ♪ climb every mountain ♪ can you feel a brand new day ♪ can you feel a ♪ brand new day. brian: even if you life church the president, have you got to say. ainsley: i like that protest. brian: normally you have to pay $500 to protest. ainsley: stand in front of the white house and get the broadway production.
they sang le mis and sound of music. steve: the stongs were beautiful. nonetheless they were there to protest the president and rosie o'donnell doesn't like him. >> should not be president. and i don't believe that he is a legitimate president. what he does is denigrate the most vulnerable. i think most of america wants him to be out. >> you believe the actual outcome was rigged or just that there were efforts? >> yes. yes. no, i do believe it was rigged. this man is like a joke. i believe that trump is loathed in america. that people are embarrassed and ashamed of who he is. that come election day, we are going to stand up at the polls and let him know. brian: go back to 2016 when she said there is no way he will ever win. okay. so she goes on to say that the reason why his popularity is going up, i guess she indicates are the russians. i gets russians are upping his popularity. people who voted for him are horrible people.
she can't get over it. steve: she kant because he is president. what do you think about their roadshow yesterday. let us know at friends@foxnews.com. tweet us or we are on facebook. ainsley: or sing us a little song. steve: can you feel a brand new day. ainsley: i love broadway. jillian, what did you think of that? jillian: i thought they were very talented. a lot more than me. get you caught up on the news we are following. starting with the search for mollie tibbets and her family is not losing hope for search for missing daughter. her daughter telling fox news new information where he thinks she could be. >> total speculation on my part. but i think that mollie is with someone that she knows, that is in over their head. the longer we go without finding mollie's body, the more hopeful we are that she is alive somewhere. jillian: the 20-year-old disappeared on july 18th after going for a jog. investigators haven't named any suspects. the reward for information leading to mollie is now
$277,000. 200 brave soldiers are set to join the fight against california's largest wildfire ever. the army de ploying active duty troops to battle 17 major blazes across the state. the mendacino complex fire is the largest in california history. 44,000 firefighters are battling fires across the state right now. army engineers are expected on the ground early next week. that's a look at your headlines. i will second it back to you. devastating out there. ainsley: work so hard to build your home and family and life and one swoop. steve: they need rain and cooler temperatures. jillian, thank you very much. new york state wants to give three months' paid leave to workers mourning a loved one. if it's signed by the governor, his business will not survive. brian: ms-13 gang member, his nickname is the reaper. he is accused of ordering murders up and down the east coast. now he says life in jail is just too hard.
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employees in new york state three months paid bereavement to mourn a loved one. this existing paid family leave law has businesses concerned it would create unnecessary strain and possibly a staffing crisis. here to weigh in is butch, the owner of the dover group based here in new york city. >> good morning how are you. steve: do many people know this is sitting on the governor's desk. >> i don't know that anyone knows it looking through it yesterday it's unbelievable bill. >> steve: three months paid leave workers would collect 60 to 67% of average weekly wage. cover the spouse, domestic partner, child, in-law, or grandchild. so, how would this impact your business, butch? >> my business company for catering in restaurants in new york. we have a big summertime business. from memorial day to labor day a 13-week period if someone loses someone they
are pretty much off the entire summer or the entire period. steve: do you replace them? replace them for the summer and have to bring them back to have somebody else off? that's not fair to the worker you hired. steve: someone has has loved one who dies what do you give them. >> not one size fits all. three to four days if they need it. a little bit more if something really bothered. get their head back in the game and move on. steve: absolutely. have you worked your whole life to build this business and now you are looking at this. and it has the potential to de rail you, you say. >> yeah. it's going to de rail us. i always like to expand. i have grown from one single ice cream shop to a major company. it's scary now with all these new rules and regulations, what's next? are we going to pay people's rent? who knows what's going to happen? steve: where do you draw the line? >> yeah, where do you draw the line. steve: ultimately, should the government be in this
particular part of this particular issue? >> no. government should not get involved with this. this is not a simple situation. this is a very difficult thing. you have religion involved. you have people's mind set involved. there's a lot of different things that factor over here. the level of someone's employee is it a manager? is it a simple worker? you know, there are a lot of factors here. they are stepping in and saying you have to do this. that's not right. steve: if the governor signs it, you have got to give somebody three months off paid. >> do you know what's scary, too? -- steve: you go out of business? >> job if i will go out of business it will certainly hurt and cause me to cut back on some staff. it will cause me to probably raise prices so i can cover this bubble payroll. it's not right. steve: let's see what the governor does. thank you. >> thank you. steve: what do you think about that? email us at friends@foxnews.com. video unbelievable. the darr slam car slams into a w
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the ban coming after it was revealed that strava a fitness tracking app. revealed the location of security forces around the world. security forces will be making sure their location freerts turned off of their fit bits and other devices. all right. brian, ainsley. brian: 25 minutes after the hour. detroit is one of america's largest cities and has one of the highest crime rates to match. in the 2010 critical 2010 censua shows 20 peforts home in one neighborhood were vacant. residents say it's the same throughout the city. ainsley: now you a real estate developer is aiming to fix that problem with a nonprofit it is called blight authority. he started it in detroit and ready to take that concept nationwide. here to explain the concept is bill pulty and the blight authority project. we have reverend larry simmons the pastor of memorial church in detroit. thank you for being with us.
>> thank you for having us. ainsley: tell us about this program it will sounds beautiful. >> we are partnering and going to them and say hey, community we can bring big equipment and machines in and knock down these abandoned building, dilapidated dangerous buildings frankly where some kids get raped and dragged into. that's what's happening in these neighborhoods. we knock down the buildings and clear the land make it safe. stop the gunshots and stop the murders and make the area beautiful. brian: we understand you knocked out will will will will will will will will will -- you have to clear a way. i call it clear table syndrome. whether you have a table at home with a bunch of junk off of it. clear it off once it's cleared people don't put stuff there anymore because they see it's a clear table. we clear the area so that future developers will see the beauty, which is what you will find in bright more. this is the only area of detroit that have rolling
hills. irish hilsz of detroit in the neighborhood. but, that was evident. once this nonstructural blight wa was cleared out then you could see the beauty of this landscape. ainsley: how did you come up with this idea. >> i had been in the construction business. my father used to make things that were beautiful. i said driving down in the city of detroit knock down these building, baltimore, 500 stlureckets abandoned. philadelphia, chicago. right? we can take this model across the united states and because of our unique background i think we can go ahead and do that. brian: you are not really getting much government support but this is the private sector. you are doing this. so by knocking things out in detroit, you think things are going to get better. you want to move on. >> and they have gotten better. brian: you are talking about moving on in chicago. >> we are thinking about chicago. baltimore is another area. looking at philadelphia. frankly, i get most of the big city urban mayors calling me say pulte will you come and help us knock down these buildings? this is a big problem in the
united states that people don't know about. it causes other problems whether it be crime or prostitution or drug activity. we are knocking it out. ainsley: what have you seen in your neighborhoods as far as what's happening in these buildings? you mentioned rape and people being pulled into them? >> there were in the area that bill talked about, we call it the north 14, 14 square blocks about 500 parcels. there were two drug houses that were operating because the overgrowth was so tall they could hide. once this was cleared out of and became evident what was going on, drug house is gone. it's funny, i said the economics of drugs obviously customers don't want to be seen. once you could see them, they left. have you got to start building again, too. am i right? it's about time. you want to build but you don't wants to price people out of these neighborhoods. >> we say step one is getting rid of everything and making it clear. so step 2 and 3 can happen. scott adams and i launched a website blight authority.
asking people for urban ideas to put in their ideas. figure out what stem 2 and 3 are, brian. once we solve step one we will never get the inner cities back on their feet. ainsley: as far as funding this, when i was reading about your story. i thought who is paying for all of this? is it your family. >> mostly myself and my family. frankly opening it up to other families. the support we have gotten. this model is totally unique in the united states. we think we could take it across the nation u. ainsley: ben carson is working with you guys. >> is he very supportive of what we are doing. we have gotten tremendous support. we are nonpolitical. working together black, white, hispanic, asian. we are bringing everybody together. >> it's that partnership, the public, private partnership with communities. skillman foundation, fisher foundation, dte, our energy corporation all getting in line to make something happen. that's the future. that's where it's going to get change. government halls a part but it's the community that takes the lead. brian: right. any message to the administration? >> i would say look at what
we did. and copy it all over america. brian: got it bill pulte thanks so much. referenced larry simmons great job. >> thank you. thank you. brian: new blight authority's web site is up running as you just heard go to friends@foxnews.com to find more. meanwhile. ainsley: what would do you if you ran into keith urban outside of a convenience store. have you got to hear the story of that photo right there. she thought he was homeless. brian: that's what these musicians are like. so much for brotherly love. candace owens. charlie kirk wanted to have breakfast. they get targeted by antifa in philadelphia. [shouting] brian: but they're not backing down. candace and charlie live in studio walking our direction ♪ i want to love somebody ♪ love somebody like you ♪
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♪ [screams] brian: conservatives under attack. candace owens you are watching there yesterday and charlie kirk ambushed because they were having breakfast in philadelphia. that's it. steve: candace owens communications director of turning point u.s.a. and charlie kirk tell what happened yesterday about this time in philly called green eggs cafe. you are there because you are going to have a meeting together to talk to your graphics team and whatnot. you live in philly. and then one of you realized hey, look over there. somebody is wearing antifa gear. >> that's exactly right. kind of progressed to
breakfast. having fun. just going through turning point u.s.a. related business tessments and we look out the window about 30 minutes later and a mob starts to form. steve: the people inside had alerted people outside they're in here? >> sent some sort of a bat signal said we have found the conservatives come and harass them and that's exactly what they did. they descended very quickly and mobilize. this is a well-funded effort. this is at 8:00 a.m. monday morning which means it's likely that this is their job. it was quite terrifying how quickly they were able to assemble that group. brian: they blew a whistle. >> blowing whistles bull horns this close to my face and my ear. it felt reminiscent of the civil rights era. the entire police force is black. only one white police officer. the entire antifa group was white. screaming at us and calling us race traitors telling the police officers they were racist all black and hispanic. i was a white supremacist
you are a race traitor. whose race are we betraying because we don't think like them and subscribe to the political orthodoxy? saints ains did you fear for your safety. >> we were shocked. i turned to candace, look, let's stand our ground for a couple minutes here and see what this is all about. and the police did an unbelievable job. what they go through and the harassment. here are these protesters and that's probably a generous word to describe them harassing them. the police nonstop. and we just kind of stood there next thing i know i'm having water thrown at me. eggs thrown at me. we did not retaliate. we never. will that's not the right way to handle situations like this. we don't want to play the victim card. that's a very important thing. we want to warn the american people this is the new face of the democratic party. steve: candace, you were yelling, you love the police. >> i love the police. it was jarring to me to see this. the illustration of black men standing peacefully. these police officers were black standing peacefully as
they were being shouted at by white liberals. i felt like a necessity to defend them and say we love you guys. we love the police. thank you for protecting us. brian: they don't love the police. you know what? they might have been following orders a go sign was given loudly by maxine waters a few weeks ago. remember. this. >> if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. [cheers] >> you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome. brian: they are doing what she said, am i right? >> they are following orders. look, they want us to apologize or back away from our support of the president. they are so frustrated at this president succeeding. they cannot reconcile with the fact that he is going to be the greatest in modern american history and the economy is booming and you see them losing their mind and resorting to mob, thuggish tactics.
steve: let me tell you something what would the news coverage be like today if a couple of people in trump hats, make america great again hats were hooting, yelling at people inside a restaurant and drove them out and then dumped water on them. >> black people imagine people in trump hats young black woman screepg at her because of her political affiliation. it would be wall-to-wall coverage and never enhear the end of it the argument we are hearing it's not illegal to discriminate not based off political. do you need a piece of legislation to tell you this is wrong, tell you harassing people based on who they support politically is wrong? that's who we have. considering rights for conservative thinkers. brian: look at kirstjen nielsen having dinner. look at sarah huckabee sanders having dinner. steven miller, they are outside protesting at his apartment this is getting
closer and closerrer to somebody getting hurt. steve scalise shot. >> rand paul was mauled by his neighbor. let's be victors and show up and shoot for and allow radicals regain control of congress. we are the democrats denouncing this. ainsley: how did they know you were in that restaurant. >> they had four people that were sitting tables down from us that had antifa decals on their bag. they recognized us. they recognize us no. big deal. we didn't think they would send out a signal to come harass us. it doesn't matter what they do. they harass us on the streets. this is not going to change the effect of this administration. i said it many times before on this couch. we saw the rasmussen poll last week. black support for donald trump has doubled since this time last year. the reason is because people are starting to recognize the left, the democrats they
are the party of hate. brian: there is something about you articulating your message as a young fraternal woman that really scares the left. >> i have been tremendously effective. i have been showing the truth and tell the truth and telling them about real black history and showing them it was never the republicans that were racist in this country. always the democrats. democrats were behind the terrorism and the kkk. the democrats are behind antifa. ainsley: it's a shame y'all can't have breakfast in peace. you all stay safe. security now. >> something we are looking close at. sad day in america that two 20 somethings can't eat quietfully a cafe and harassed for conservative values. steve: can't have a plate of eggs and toast. that is a serious indictment of the political atmosphere right now. thank you for joining us and telling us your stories. >> thank you, guys. brian: right over charlie's left soldier is jillian poised to give us the news. >> we are following a story out of tennessee. go ahead and get you caught up on that. at least 20 people under
arrest after protesting ice outside of a private prison. the demonstrators unhappy that the facility near nashville has a contract with ice. some of the protesters blocking entrances to the prison so employees cannot get inside. they say they play a quote limited role in america's immigration system. take a look at thin sane video out of toronto. a tow truck's dash cam car slams into a broken down truck on the side of the high spewing debris everywhere. take a closer look see the driver of that broken down truck getting thrown into a guardrail. incredibly. no one was hurt. the driver of the white car wasn't paying attention. and ms-13 leader accused of or kerring horrific murders is complaining about life behind bars. diaz is reportedly asking a judge to improve his jail conditions saying he is locked in a cell 23 hours a day with limited phone access. is he also known as the
reaper is accused of directing gang operations in more than four states. he has pleaded not guilty. a woman just trying to be nice helps a man pay for his coffee at a convenience store but she has absolutely no idea that he is a country music mega star. watch this. >> there was this man answered didn't look like he had a lot of money to be honest. he said i'm keith. i said that's how look like, keith you are badge. he said yes, i am keith urban and i argued that he wasn't. [laughter] jillian: didn't believe him until his body guard stepped in to reassure her. the shocked teacher took a photo before he left for his concert in new jersey. she says she treats a stranger by paying their bill at that store every week. isn't that great? brian: that's fantastic. ainsley: is he like no i'm a gazillion narrow and let me buy your coffee. brian: i could buy australia. ainsley: thanks, jillian. brian: coming up straight ahead. ainsley: the media losing it
after president trump says the 2016 trump tower meeting was about getting dirt on hillary clinton. >> just further immeshes him into not collusion because conspiracy. >> to have this president of the united states as unindicted co-conspirator in this. brian: is she a pundit or a reporter? judge napolitano says this is no bombshell. is he walking our direction. i'm so nervous. steve: ed t steve: todd piro is in michigan having breakfast with friends. catch up with some of the voters next. hey, todd. ainsley: hey, judge.
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unindicted co-conspirator in this. ainsley: the media attacking the president for saying the 2016 trump tower meeting was meant to get information on hillary clinton. brian: nothing new. last year the president said the same exact thing. steve: that's right. here with insight on why this is not a bombshell with senior judicial an list judge andrew napolitano. when he was meeting with president macron last year he said essentially the same thing. is it against the law if you are in politics to try to dig up dirt on your opponent. >> no. of course not. and everybody does it and to that extent the president is correct. but, there are federal statutes that prohibit receiving something of value from a foreign national, foreign entity or foreign government. so, was the purpose of this meeting to receive something of value? that's something bob mueller is going to have to look at. the president himself is clear of this. he didn't know about this. until the "new york times" revealed that a year after it happened and there is no testimony. not even out of the mouth of
michael cohen as far as we can tell to contradict the president. ainsley: is there crime here or conspiracy? >> i don't know the answer to that but, unfortunately, a lot of these statutes are written to make it easier for the government to convict. if there was an agreement to receive dirt on hillary from the russians, even if the dirt never came, if those who agreed, at least one of them, took some step in furtherance of the agreement, then there is the potential crime for conspiracy. but it doesn't appear that the president was among them. brian: how would they even know that? >> well, that's for mueller either to drop or to figure out from asking people that were involved. brian: he hasn't talked to don jr. does that tell you the level of interest? >> i don't know. don jr. has testified under oath before congress that is theoretically secret. my guess is bob mueller knows that so he know what is don jr. told the congress and we don't know what he told them. my guess is he has been consistent throughout that his father didn't know about this until the news was
broken by the "new york times" a year later. steve: speaking of bob mueller it, sounds like the trump team is getting closer to a decision. john roberts just broke some of that information within the last couple of hours. >> i am -- my hat is off to rudy giuliani's patience because it seems like every time there is an agreement, bob mueller wants to move, i will use a kilmeade met for. bob mueller wants to move the goal post. i would basically say mr. president, we're not going to let you anywhere near bob mueller. he knows a lot more about this case. he has interviewed a lot more witnesses. when the government wants to talk to you, mr. president, it's to help the government. it's not to help you. i think rudy has been giving that very sound advice to the president but the president, because he said publicly so many times i want to tell my story. this is not the forum for him to tell his story. he should just tell the american people i want to tell the story burr the lawyers have advised me -- steve: if there is a subpoena. >> if there is a subpoena
let the court call it the president may have a very good argument the can't force his testimony. brian: bill clinton testified he got impeached anyway. judge: brian the testimony bill clinton gave which he agreed to do not only under oath in front of a camera undermined him radically. i don't think trump is going to make that mistake and rudy giuliani, very, very smart and experienced when it comes to these things is going to let that happen. all the best guys. ainsley: you too. steve: straight ahead, hollywood wants to do permanent damage to president trump's star on the walk of fame. what they just did overnight that could remove it from that particular street. brian: 50's the president i would remove it myself. ainsley: todd piro getting the pulse of the nation we will hear from him coming up next. ♪ r-o-c-k in the u.s.a.
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brian: voters in five states head to the polls today primary special elections that will send a lot of messages. ainsley: that's right. in michigan the battle for congress is heating up as two republicans john james and sandy pensler hope to unseat senator debbie stabenow she is now a democrat. steve: john james has been endorsed by kid rock and kid rock actually grew up in romeo, michigan. todd piro it is there at the romeo cafe with reaction from the voters. todd? todd: good morning, steve, ainsley and brian. obviously talking to the voters today about what they are looking for in a candidate. and as you might imagine. it all comes down to the green. i want to begin with mark. he works for a company that makes turbochargers for indy
cars. how cool is that? he says is he looking for candidates who can continue the economic momentum under president trump because that momentum is so vital for the state of michigan. why do you say that? >> well, we are winning. the economy is winning. we are bringing jobs back to michigan. we want to see that momentum continue in michigan. todd: talk to me about the auto industry and what have you seen since the president took office? >> well, we have seen the committee dump back there in 2009. and it's just the economy down here is growing. the manufacturing sector is growing. jobs are coming back here to michigan. and hold that to trump. is he doing his job. he is doing what he said he was going to do and bringing jobs back here to michigan. todd: mark, thank you for your time. now we are going to meet george. george is a farmer. george told me is looking for candidates who have had to make payroll. why do you say that george? >> you know payroll for my me for my employers i employ
about 25 people. i look at well, we have to really think hard and do stuff right to make it work. and like i say, i like candidates, you know, trump had to make payroll. we have paul mitchell there. he was a businessman had to make poir payroll in his life. these people they really know what it takes there to run a business because, you know, if that's all that you have done was something there someone else paid you to do it, hey, you know, they have no experience. todd: jorm, thank you for yougeorge thank you foryour tim. steve: roaroamromeo cafe in rom, michigan where the phone is ringing. ainsley: go pick it up, todd. steve: the sanctions against iran is the most biting sanctions and there is more to come. what does this mean for association with iran,
ambassador dennis ross breaks it down coming up. brian: he worked for obama and bush. ainsley: mollie tibbets' father has a new theory about what happened to his daughter. he will join us live. crabfest is back at red lobster,
your one chance to have new jumbo snow crab with tender dungeness crab. or try crab lover's dream. but hurry in. 'cause crabfest will be gone in a snap. steve: the iranian sanctions have officially been cast. anyone doing business with iran will not be doing business with the united states of america. i am asking for world peace and nothing less. >> they have killed americans. they have kidnapped americans. they have sponsored terrorism around the world. and it's time for them to be accountable for that and pay the price. >> the longer we go without finding mollie's body, the more hopeful we are that she is alive somewhere. >> just imagine, no wall no wall in southern arizona. >> charlie kirk and candace owens brutally harassed by protesters having breakfast at philadelphia coffee shop.
>> we were just standing there i'm having water thrown at me. >> you are a race traitor. whose race am i betraying? ♪ can you feel a brand new day. >> ♪ we'll have a house party ♪ we don't need nobody ♪ turn your tv off ♪ bring your boom box out. steve: a house party live from studio f. thank you very much. we are hiding the coffee behind the beautiful floral arrangement. brian: you gave me away. ainsley: we are having a house party today. steve: america runs on dunkin'. ainsley: happy birthday elise earhardt. she is 45 years old today. brian: house party starts at 3:00 p.m. it's 5:00 somewhere, baby. let's start with news this morning. it's a fox news alert. president trump just tweeted this morning. he said the iran sanctions have officially been cast.
these are the most biting sanctions ever imposed and in november they ratchet up to yet another level. anyone doing business with iran will not be doing business with the united states. i am asking for world peace, nothing less. steve: all right. what does this all mean now griff jenkins joins us live in our nation's capital. griff it, all started seven hours ago. >> that's right, good morning, guys. president rouhani is feeling that bite this morning as president trump effectively ends the obama era iran deal but saying he is open to negotiations. here is how rouhani reacted. >> what's the meaning of negotiations when you impose sanctions at the same time? it's like someone pulling a knife or stab a rival or enemy in the arm while at the same time claiming we should be talking and negotiating. >> rouhani also says is he willing to meet with the president without preconditions as long as he gets an apology and compensation. now european leaders broadly oppose the move as the president urged all nations
to join his maximum pressure campaign intended to change regime behavior. senator lindsey graham says this is a good start. >> donald trump is telling the world business community and the europe peeps, you cannot do business with this murder rus regime and have access to u.s. markets. over time this will work stay tough, president trump, you are on the right track. >> across the aisle the reaction from house minority leader nancy pelosi blasting the move calling it a counter productive action only diminishing america's international credibility. eroding our relationships with our nato and eu allies and sets back the path toward a more stable region and peaceful nonnuclear future. these are the first sanctions. they target precious metals in the auto sector. another round will come targeting the oil sector and central bank. steve: those will get even tougher. by the way president rouhani says the united states is owes iran an apology for
pulling out of the deal. ainsley: and wants them to pay them back. brian: wants apologies for everything they claim we have done ever back to the 1950s. so i'm sure the president is just jotting that down now putting it in a big card. steve: meanwhile, we know that come november one of the top issues on both sides going to be immigration. we're going to tell you about a democrat who is a governor candidate. his name is david garcia. he was at the net roots convention in new orleans. he said imagine no wall on the southern border of arizona. keep in mind, he is running for governor of arizona. brian: he wants to put that john lennon's imagine. i'm not sure if that's going to resonate with the people of arizona. it does resonate with the netroots crowd. he wants to run for president.
that's the rhetoric you heard borders are down and ice is out. ainsley: listen to what he said to that group. >> i want to just take a second and imagine. let's just imagine. [applause] just imagine no wall. no wall in southern arizona. [applause] steve: it's not the first time that he has suggested an anti-border agenda. he did not want the national guard involved in the family separation on our southern border. he has called for the replacement of ice with something which he describes as actually works. and he does not like the arizona border strike force, which he says in arizona is a ploy to use immigration as political tool to continue fear. that particular strike force was started by governor doocy to stop the crime from entering into mexico into arizona. and so far it has worked. brian: what i don't get is that the polls show that you might debate the wall or the fence, but nobody 8 out of
10 americans wants border security. why politically does he think that that is advantageous position let alone what he thinks. ainsley: talk to the people who live near the border where these individuals, many of them criminals come across the border into their property and they are fearful. brian: meanwhile, earlier today, we brought on charlie kirk and candace owens. together they decided to do this radical thing, have breakfast in philadelphia. the birthplace of america where they actually rang true with the declaration of the independence. they were spotted by antifa people also having breakfast. a whistle goes off. bull horns are out. next thing you know they were being harassed. thank goodness the cops were there. ainsley: that's video of them walking out of restaurant. they saw antifa sitting at the table sitting next to them. they are antifa. they are going to mind their business we are going to mind our business. they called their friends.
their friends gather outside with bull horns and whistles. can you see right in their faces. steve: charlie was doused with a bottle of water. police were right on the scene and they stood there to protect them and candace owens was here and she told us that she was actually yelling we love the police. we love the police. what did the two of them make of what was going on? listen to this. here they are on the couch. >> they want us to apologize or pack away from our support of the president. they are so frustrated at this president succeeding and they cannot reconcile with the fact that he is going to be the greatest president in modern american history. they see the economy booming and it makes them lose their mind. >> this is not going to change the effect of this administration. people are starting to recognize the left, the democrats are the party of hate. steve: they both agreed that there is a double standard when it comes to berating at breakfast conservatives and they suggested can you imagine if trump supporter in a maga, make america great again hat did that to
somebody. it would be. ainsley: all over the headlines, every newspaper and every other network. brian: if you are running against president trump and put obamacare back i get it you say i want to raise taxes, i feel the corporate tax was too steep, okay, final. but, when you run on i want to be a socialist. i want to abolishize. i want to have open borders. tell me where you are going to get one independent vote with that rush limbaugh brought that up yesterday. the democrats are basing this blue wave on one thing, trump hatred, the resistance. they are not basing on people's desire for democrat policies. now, isn't that kind of flimsy? they think -- they live in a world where everybody now hates trump. that's what they tell themselves. they live in a world where everybody now realizes the mistake they made voting for trump. but it isn't based on policy, no. it's based on trump hatred.
meanwhile, over here, the country has experienced an economic rebirth with people who haven't been working in 20 years finding jobs. after the democrats and their president specifically said the jobs weren't coming back. steve: it will be interesting to see. you know, there has been a prediction that there is going to be a blue wave sweeping one party into control perhaps with the house of representatives. today is primary day in a number of states. michigan, missouri, kansas, and washington. of course you will see all the primary coverage and results tonight right here on fox. brian: ohio is going to be on what everyone is focused on. one district where republicans have handled. they have had it for like 30 years. now they are in a virtual dead heat. the president over the weekend showed up to try to bolster the ohio candidate balderson. and we will see if that indeed works. ainsley: they are neck in neck. 1 percentage point. brian: against danny boy o'connor.
steve: it's 7:10 and jillian joins us with headlines. jillian: that's right. good morning. this story we have been following. one of the men found inside the filthy new mexico compound is expected in court today. he faces extradition to georgia as investigators try to locate his missing son. that man is one of five adults believed to be muslim extremists under arrest for child abuse. police busting them after receiving a tip about the missing little boy. they did not find that little boy but they did discover 11 starving children living at the compound. jeff sessions ripping the federal judge. he fully reinstated the daca program. in a statement the attorney general says the ruling comes after a quote number of decisions in which courts have improperly used judicial power to steer and join and modify and direct executive policy. sessions also says the trump administration will continue to aggressively defend their zero tolerance immigration policy. the white house plans to appeal the ruling.
president trump's star on the hollywood walk of fame could soon be a thing of the past. the west hollywood city council passing a resolution over night asking for its removal. the chamber of commerce will have the final say. the president's star has been vandalized several times, most recently by a man with a pick ax. he is now facing a felony charge. this woman's graduation fellows really bite. mackenzie nolan posing in graduation friend big tex alligator. she says tex is like a giant puppy, who often obeys commands for tweets. she even got him to stay still enough to balance her class ring on his snout. what do you think of that? brian: is that real? ainsley: she works with him on a daily basis. she feels comfortable. more power to her. steve: come on. brian: i want to try that
with rhinos look, if you can do it with that. ainsley: rhinos -- these are very dangerous. i think rhinos can be, too. but an alligator, really? brian: if you have a similar story, write us. steve: with a rhino? brian: 12 minutes after the hour. what do the new sanctions on iran mean for us relationship with the region. the next guest says this could force them back to the negotiating table. dennis ross worked for president obama and president bush will be with us live. ainsley: plus a boy in a wheelchair holds himself up for our national anthem. the inspiring video that you have to see ♪ yet wave ♪ o'er the land of the free ♪ o say does that star spangled
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book now at choicehotels.com. brian: iran's economy already feeling the first wave of sanctions today was reinstated by president trump overnight. since the sanctions were announced iran's currency has fallen significantly in its value. what does the future of iran's economy and what does their relationship with the u.s. going forward look like? here to weigh in is former american envoy to the middle east ambassador over democratic and republican administrations. ambassador, what does this mean for u.s.-irannian relations? >> look, i think in the near
term, you are going to see a higher level of tension. clearly on the one hand we are ratcheting up the pressure on them they will look for ways in the region to ratchet up the pressure on us, although indirectly. when they talk about threats to the strait of hormuz they will not play that card. for one thing if they try to shut down the strait of hormuz. it means they cannot sell any of their oil. they can't do that number one. they also know we will not react militarily. president obama was prepared to threaten the use of force. he knows if they are threaten the use of force over the close of the strait of hormuz you know trump will. they provide anti-will missiles to the houthis. and fired a missile at saudi oil tanker. the third most important area for the movement of energy worldwide. i think you will see steps
like that. brian: you have u.s. bank notes. banned with gold, with precious metals and urge the european union to do the same thing. in the end, ambassador, true or not you will have to make a choice do you want to deal with america or iran. do you really think it's that cut and dry. >> it's a little bit more complicated than that because businesses for sure will say if the choice is doing business with america or iran. there is no choice you do it with america. but the iranian -- but the european governments are determined to try to keep the iranians in the nuclear deal. they goal to great lengts. they have passed regulations designed to protect their companies from secondary sanctions by the u.s. still, the companies basically will make their own choices. the governments can't tell them what to do. brian: even though you are a part of the obama administration. you weren't there when this deal was cut. you are for pulling out of this deal. ambassador, where would you go from here? what would do you next? >> look, i think the key right now is for us to try to maintain the pressure but
continue to say we want to talk to iran. one of the ways to build pressure on the iranians is to create the reality that, look, the purpose of pressure is not an end in itself. we are not trying to changes the regime. we are trying to change those behaviors that the iranian people themselves are demonstrating against. think about the fact you have placards in these demonstrations that say no to syria, no to lebanon. no to palestine, yes to us. invest news. don't invest in hezbollah. don't invest in bashar assad. on the one hand maintain the pressure but at the same time keep the door open and say we are willing to talk. i think one key thing here is the administration needs to have a consistent voice. it can't be sending mixed messages. when it sends mixed messages, it's going toned up creating problems for itself and its policy. brian: these are organic protest and say america is the great satan. they are happening in the rural areas with taxi
drivers, bazaar owners, farmers, so they can't even legitimately blame us. ambassador, i hope the administration calls on you because i just don't know anybody more knowledgeable. thanks so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. brian: all right. coming up straight ahead. rosie o'donnell talking to the media and the microphone to resist president trump. >> he should thought be president. i don't think he is a legitimate president. i think most of america wants him out. brian: this is crazy. is this how many on the left think like rosie o'donnell? will this be the winning argument for november? let's sing about it at home. and these guys are going to need a bigger boat. a close encounter with a shark next. i hate sharks. ♪ you'll ask... what bad shoulder? what headache?
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star brian: time now for news by the numbers. get ready, it's the under the sea edition. first $6.4 million how many people visited sea world last quarter. attendance at the theme park up 5% from a year ago and sales from been down for years after that black fish documentary about killer what else and thwhales and captt wasn't going well. i will walk this way. how many fish a couple caught and have to pay up because they did. that only allow fish known real in three crappies per person is that the way you say it? finally, 12 feet, that is the size of that great watch shark. look at the size of that shah shark got a little bit too close for comfort.
>> oh, [bleep] right out of the water. brian: shark surprise ago researcher in massachusetts but he didn't seem scared. talk about somebody who is never scared of sharks, here is ainsley. ainsley: i love them. bring them on. bring on those cages. thank you, brian. rosie o'donnell talking to the media and the microphone to resist donald trump. >> should not be president and i don't believe that he is a legitimate president. we are alive, awake and we are woke. >> people are embarrassed and ashamed of who he is and that come election day we are going to stand up at the polls and let him know ♪ can you feel a brand new day ♪ can you feel a brand new day day. ainsley: that's rosy with broadway singers down in washington protesting. is this how the left thinks they will win in november? here to debate is rnc spokesperson kayleigh mcenany and jessica tarlov a fox news contributor. thank you for being with us. jessica, i will start with you, i actually like the
peaceful protest with the broadway singers. >> yeah. ainsley: we saw what happened with candace and charlie when they were just having breakfast and see some antifa people and they walk that -- why can't people have differences? why is there so much hatred? why is that happening? >> i think people absolutely can have differences. as you pointed out the protest that rosie o'donnell was partaking it in they call it the kremlin annex which has been going on for weeks now headed by the hillary clinton grassroots project has been completely peaceful. about the communication of ideas and about showing president trump that there are a number of americans out there who are not a fan of him or his policies and will be showing up at the polls in november and also today if you are in ohio, and that special election vote for danny o'connor and again in 2020 to make sure there is a democrat back in the white house. what happened to candace owens and charlie kirk is terrible. antifa is a fringe movement that has nothing to do with
the democratic party whatsoever. and i'm sorry that that happened to them but what's going on at the white house as you said it seems like a good time. ainsley: kayleigh, a lot of people are asking why. why are people so angry and mad just because people support president trump? rush limbaugh said it has nothing to do with policy. the blue wave has nothing to do with policy. instead, hatred. what are your thoughts? >> that's exactly right. we saw this going back to 2016 when president trump just wanted to have a simple rally in chicago. that had to be shut down because of violence. that stop that from happening. we have seen it go forward to today with maxine waters calling for violent protests against republican us and trump allies and sarah sanders not being able to eat at restaurant and charlie kirk. the examples are immeasurable. what this comes down to, ainsley, when we lost we came up with an argument tea party rose to power and peacefully put their ideas forward.
when democrats lost there were calls to violence. calls to de legit might the president. instead of accepting the election results they say unhinge dollars things like rosie o'donnell has said. it's not going to win. it's not going to win in november. ainsley: jessica, rosie o'donnell said the mainstream media gave trump the pls because they were too slow in coming around to call him a liar and she said the media treated hillary clinton and president trump equally when they were running against each other. do you agree with that? >> i agree with bits and pieces of that we do know that the russians targeted 21 states here there are were a lot of the people beyond rosie o'donnell that do feel like they played a significant role in the election outcome. that's not some fringe attitude there. what she is saying about the media treatment of trump and hillary being equal, there are a lot of people who make a legitimate fact that the media harped on and on and on about hillary clinton's emails and let a lot of what was going on with president trump as we are seeing coming out now in the mueller probe for instance. we never saw tax returns that that was glossed over as we sat there with a camera anxiously awaiting
him to take the stage, hours and hours and hours of media coverage just waiting for him to come out and talk to people. hillary clinton certainly did not get that kind of treatment. i believe that he is a legitimate president. i also believe that if you look at his favorability ratings right now new gallup poll 58% approval with white people without a college degree but only 29% approval with the rest of america. and that's what rosie o'donnell is talking about. this is not a president that's popular. this is not a man that represents all of us. and we have got to show up at the polls and take that back. she is talking about voting. that's a get out the vote message. ainsley: i know you said rossy is not the spokesperson for your party there are a lot of people already elected officials that have the same messages. you have alexandria ocasio-cortez, you have elizabeth warren. they are saying a lot of the same things. >> they are definitely saying get out to vote. ainsley: kayleigh, let me get kayleigh in. >> there is a lot of people. rosie o'donnell screaming in fronts of the white house about the electionin election bg
rigged is not true. president obama said not a single vote was changed. won that landslide. even though not screaming in fronts of the white house they are making inceernt argument about collusion. we see it with adam schiff and the dnc lawsuit against russia. that was dismissed by a d.c. court. they are making unhinged arguments, maybe not in the same way as rossy but nevertheless saying the same thing. democrats de legitimize. we organize. >> can i add maxine waters never called for violence. she explicitly did not use the word violence. ainsley: let us know what you think. hear from the people write us and respond to that did she call for violence. friends@foxnews.com. thank you for being with us. >> thanks, ainsley. ainsley: now to a fox news alert. mollie tibbets' father has a new theory about what happened to his daughter. he will join us live coming up next. carry on ♪
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university student mollie tibbets. brian: the reward for her return now hitting over $270,000. steve: mollie's father rob says he believes she is still alive and could actually be with somebody she knows. her father, rob tibbets, joins us right now live from brooklyn, iowa. rob, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> good morning. steve: since the get-go you believe she was abducted. now you believe she was abducted by somebody n.i.e. she knows. explain that. >> i just think that because the situation in brooklyn that everyone knows everyone, i just don't think that anyone set out to harm mollie. and the longer we go without finding her, the more optimistic we are that she is with someone that doesn't want to harm her but doesn't know how to extricate themselves from this situation. steve: do you think that
perhaps somebody misunderstood her intention intentions? >> could be. i mean, all of this is so much speculation. i wouldn't have any real idea of why someone would do this. but, the longer this goes on. the more i believe and, again, just speculation on a father who has too much time to think that i think she is with someone that isn't going to harm her but doesn't know how to get out of this situation. and is in over their head. brian: have you told this to the police and have they worked on that angle of the investigation? >> they're going to work on what they work on independent of what any of us think or say. they are very, very professional and very diligent in what they are doing. i have told this to them. and they have acknowledged it but, what they're working
on is on a separate and parallel track to the other parts of this search team. ainsley: mr. tibbets, are you saying this because you found a note or some evidence that leads to you believe that this has happened and are you saying that maybe she ran away maybe with someone else or that someone abducted her. >> oh, no, no, no. not like that at all. i'm sort of hesitant to even discuss. this again, this is just a hope more than a theory. but, the longer we go without finding mollie, the more i believe she is somewhere where we can get her back. steve: you would like that person to return her before they get further into trouble rob, what would you say -- if the person you feel abducted her, if that is the case, if that person were watching tv right now, what do you want that person to know? >> you have made a horrible
mistake. you obviously don't want to harm mollie, to just let her go. and then deal with the consequences of what have you done so far. don't escalate this any further. ainsley: all right. if you are watching and you have any information, even if it's small and you think it's insignificant, please call the sheriff's office. the number is 641-623-5679. or call 911 and they will connect you. thank you so much, mr. tibbets. we appreciate you hillary beinge and we're all saying prayers for your daughter. steve: the story has resonated with some people. they have a daughter, they have a sister. they have a girlfriend like mollie and their heart goes out to that family. where is she? >> ainsley: there is a big reward. if you have information that leads to her arrest. you can help the family and that money can go to your family as well.
brian: 23 minutes before the top of the hour. jillian have you been following that news. jillian: i don't know if you saw this video. let's go ahead and show you this insane video of a gas tanker exploding into flames. look at this. the incredible blast was all caught on camera in italy. watch this. can you imagine a giant fireball erupting on the highway when a tanker rear ended a stopped truck. at least three people are dead and as many as 70 are hurt. the blast collapsing part of the highway. and how about this video? insane brawl breaks out at nail salon all over an eyebrow wax. take a look. [shouting] jillian: that i salon worker hitting the customer with a broom. she was reportedly upset
with a botched wax and refused to pay. at least two people were arrested. yikes. former president barack obama back in the spotlight for snagging another peace prize. the robert f. kennedy human rights group giving the ripple of hope awashed harshes those who work towards a more just and peaceful world. critic also say he did the exact opposite in office citing drone strike policy. obama will be present with the award in december. obama was awarded of the nobel peace prize in 2000 89. stop what i are doing and look look at this. patriotic boy going viral for inspiring salute to our nation ♪ through the night ♪ that our flag was still there ♪ o say does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪ o'er the land of the free
♪ jillian: wow. that young man rising out of his wheelchair and on to his feet for the national anthem in tennessee. isn't that incredible? i know i could just hear you, steve, saying that is amazing. steve: that was really something. so powerful. thank you for sharing it, jillian. ainsley: thanks, jillian. brian: talking about powerful. janice dean is powerful. janice: we have never arm wrestled before. brian: not yet. i'm afraid. janice: take a look what's going on with this crowd 40th anniversary. congratulations. what is the secret? >> he does what i say. janice: nodding head is good. 40th birthday congratulations. >> thank you so much. janice: you going to get into trouble today? >> of course. janice: look at this, my friend. "fox & friends" in a t-shirt. so amazing. so you are the and in "fox &
friends." how do you feel about that? >> good. >> you are the fox? >> that's right. >> very nice. all right. very well done, everybody. let's take a look at the map and wave to our friends at home. hurricane hector by the way, category 4 hurricane. this is the strongest hurricane we have seen around this neighborhood in quite some time. the good news is it's going to be south of the big island and the hawaiian islands but still watch it over the next couple days because we could still have impacts. it's so humid in the northeast. we could see some scattered thunderstorms across portions of the northeast and the great lakes and midwest. ready to say hi to everybody at home? does everybody know you are on television? >> hi. janice: very nice. don't we love -- we need to sell these t-shirts. they are fantastic. >> they are. janice: you guys win a prize for most original. ainsley: would you want to be the friend, the fox or the and? steve: you would always have to travel group like that though. friends and fox with. brian: with a foldout couch.
ainsley: i'm glad they got the right order. thanks, janice. meanwhile, straight ahead. a retiring police officer surprised by his son on the final day being an official police officer. >> during two and a half years of service my father self otherwise police officer ledoux is retiring. >> he did come home. steve: did he come home. both the father and the son who came home is going to talk about the emotional day coming up in about five minutes. ainsley: what a great story. primary day in michigan. todd piro is catching up with voters before they head to the polls. todd: we are talking to the voters about the issues of the day. sometimes there are issues that transcend politics. you will meet an inspiring american couple when "fox & friends" returns after the break ♪ you can't go home ♪ who says you can't go back ♪
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jillian: good morning and welcome back. time forehead lines. inmates could soon be headed to the ballot box. kicking off a campaign to register qualified inmates to vote. 50 inmates have signed up so far. legal aid plans to return to rikers three more times this month ahead of the september 6th deadline for absentee ballot applications. and troops overseas to cast their midterm ballots from their smart phones. west virginia launching a first of its kind voting app. it uses a person's photo id and facial recognition software to confirm their identity. brian? brian: all right. thanks, jillian. 14 minutes before the top of the hour. voters in five states are heading to the polls right now in primary and special election. ainsley: in michigan the fight for congress is heating up as two republicans john james and sandy pensler look to unseat
debbie stabenow a democrat. steve: that would happen in november. what do voters think in michigan in todd piro is live at the romeo diner in romeo, michigan. todd: good morning, steve, ainsley and brian. and when looking at the candidates and deciding who to vote for, angela and jeff really look at those who are best prepared to deal with military issues. jeff is in the army reserves. his son nick is in the navy. angela's son chris is a marine and angela's son philip was killed in iraq. obviously no words i can say on behalf of myself or on behalf of the nation will ever truly thank you for your sacrifice and for your son's sacrifice. as a gold star mother, you say respect for the military under president trump is at a high. why do you say that? >> we have noticed that more people are respectful of who we are as americans and what we are known for doing.
and that is taking care of people who need help and are unable to take care of themselves. todd: you had an interesting story about when you asked your son philip as to why he wanted to go into the army. what did he say? >> yes. he explained to me that it was very important to him that he was able to help people who could not help themselves. it was a touching moment and meant volumes to me when he was killed. todd: when you see what is going on in our country and you see what your son died fighting for. what goes through your mind? >> we recognize that -- personally i recognize that many people are unaware of truly what the military does and the purpose of what they do for us around the world. todd: angela, again, i can't help you enough for taking the time to talk with us. powerful is an understatement. we just thank you so very much for your time.
going to switch to jeff now. jeff, you have an interesting job you do ncis for the army which is kind of a neat thing. but you say you love the economy under this president. why do you say that? >> well, number one, my paycheck is bigger. and that's great. and more jobs. we have a military budget. it's a great thing. we're enjoying it. todd: when we were talking earlier, you had a very interesting story about socialism. you took a trip through your job through the army with the republic of georgia not the southern state but the former ussr. describe what you saw there. >> the people just had a long face. not a lot of smiles. good people but socialism just showed bright and shining that because there wasn't any sunshine it's just the doom and gloom and not knowing what's going to happen the next day.
you could see it in everyone's face. todd: understood. thank you for sharing your experience, obviously. thank you both of you for being with us today. again, i can't thank you all enough. send it back to new york. steve: powerful words to the all star family. thank you, todd. ainsley: retiring police officer surprised by his son on his final day on the force. >> 32 and a half years of service, my father, selfless police officer ledoux is retiring. >> he did come home. ainsley: he did come home. both father and son are going to join us live to talk about that emotional day coming up next. ♪ a man's good word ♪ge and handshake are all you need that works at liquid speed. you'll ask... what pain?
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♪ steve: after more than 30 years of service with the south bridge police department officer ledoux made his final radio call but it was who was on the other end of that call that made it so special and a surprise. >> my sincere pleasure to announce after 32 and a half years of service my father selfless police officer dwayne ledoux is retiring and has given his final coach ride. to set free a man who has sacrificed so much of his time for all of us. dad badge number, dad, you are officially code 5. >> love you. [laughter] he did come home. steve: did he come home. joining us is retired officer wayne ledoux from massachusetts and his son from seattle. good morning to both of you. >> good morning.
steve: duane, let's start with you. in watching the whole video, there is a delay between the time nate announces that he is on the phone call and you realize it. and when the look came on your face, it just tears a person up because you realize that's my son. >> yes. yes. i finally realized it took a few seconds but i was on the radio sometimes the first time you hear a voice you really don't recognize it. it was the first time i ever heard him use a police radio. i didn't recognize at that time first. but then i caught on. steve: what was so surprising nate or nathan as your father likes to call you was the fact that you were not supposed to be there, were you? >> no. i'm supposed to be about six hour plane flight away in seattle. that's where i live right now. steve: the chief called you up and asked you if you would do it and you decided to do it. why? >> i just -- i knew this was going to be a big moment for
him. he has worked hard. i know he has a sense of adventure in him. and he has still got a lot to do. he sacrificed that time and i think it's, you know, now he can go enjoy what he has earned. steve: sure. duane, what does it mean to you to have your son give you that? >> oh, it was the best moment of my career. it came at the last moment of my career was the best moment. just having him there. hearing him on -- finally realizing it was him on the radio and just so much emotion. just -- it's border line indescribable but special. steve: nate, what would you like to say to your dad right now. >> i'm just incredibly happy for him. i'm proud of him. i'm excited to see what he does now. i know he said in some instances that he is going to chase me.
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they were having breakfast. >> i'm having water thrown at me. eggs thrown at me. >> rosie o'donnell lead as musical process right outside of the white house. ♪ ♪ baby, why don't you just meet me in the middle, i'm losing my mind just a little, so why don't you just meet me in the middle, in the middle ♪ ainsley: i'm in the middle. come on over, meet me in the middle. brian: i have my mark. i got to stay on it, or i get in trouble. ainsley: is that message for republicans and everyone can hear everyone's voices and still get along. is that a possibility? is that a pipe-dream? >> that is actually a song. brian: bring in john bolton.
i want to say ambassador john bolton, fox news contributor, you hate when people move on. national security advisor. ambassador, welcome back. >> i'm glad to be back. brian: this is a right up your alley. we were be talking about you if you were an expert. talking about the dissolving of the iranian deal president obama had in place. what sanctions on iran were not there yesterday. >> essentially all of the sanctions that existed before 2015, except those related to oil and various financial transactions this cuts deeply into the heart of iran's ability to import manufactured goods and that sort of thing. we think sanctions that went into effect at midnight began to have an effect back in may when the president pulled out of the wretched iran nuclear deal. many businesses around the world didn't want to risk losing business in the united states in
order to continue to do business with iran. the implications are already pretty profound. they will grow more profound in november when the oil-related sanctions go into effect. steve: sanctions went into effect midnight last night. in may, the president pulled us out of the iran nuke deal. what is the goal of the sanctions? is it to get iran to negotiate a new deal or squeeze the government and squeeze the people so there is regime change? >> we don't, the policy is not regime change but we definitely want to put maximum pressure on the government. not just to come back to discuss a deal that is basically not fixable, dealing with the nuclear weapons aspect. we want to see a much broader retreat by iran for their support for international terrorism, their belligerent military activity in the middle east and their ballistic missile nuclear-related programs. so there is a lot going on here
that iran needs to be held accountable for. ainsley: this could worsen our relations with european allies. will you comment, elaborate on that a little bit please? >> i don't think it is worsening our relations with our european allies. we've been in constant communication in nearly four months i've been here. i probably spent more time communicating with european allies on the iran issue than any other single subject. we all share the same objective making sure iran doesn't get deliverable nuclear weapons. the european governments are still holding to the nuclear deal but honestly their businesses are running from it as fast as they can. the effect of the american sanctions is really proceeding regardless of the views of the european government. brian: china, any sign of cooperating? india i heard is upset. they will not cooperate. what are your thoughts? >> no, i think the indian government is cooperating. we made it clear our objective
after the november sanctions kick in, no one should buying oil from iran. to do that you have to find substitute sources. we're working with all the governments involved for that purpose. governments all around the world and businesses should ask themselves regardless of the nuclear deal, why would you want to do business with the world's largest financier of international terrorism, the central bank of international terrorism? do your shareholders feel good you're doing business with a terrorist regime? that is the sort of thing everybody needs to ask. steve: ambassador, let's switch gears. last week there was show of force. you had all the intel chiefs there in the press room. you were there. department of homeland security secretary, talking about russia, up, even today apparently is still meddling in our election process. given that, it kind of looks like putin told our president a lie? >> well he has said on numerous
occasions the russian state is not involved in election meddling. the justice department handed down an indictment a few weeks ago naming a dozen gru officials, one of the russian intelligence agencies. i don't think there is any question that the russian state is involved and that's why the president wanted the four heads of some of the key agencies involved in dough tech and preventing for ren election meddling to go out and tell the american people exactly what they're doing. now they couldn't tell them everything because obviously you're not going to tell our adversaries what they are doing so they can evade it, certainly in general terms that the government is protecting the integrity of the election process. the president knew what they were going to say. he had been briefed on it a few days before at national security council meeting. he didn't just authorized it, he encouraged it. brian: you think if they try
something we will have retribution for china or russia, anybody else that tries something? is that the only thing that will get their attention? are we prepared to do this? >> i can't get into the specifics but let me say we're considering a variety of steps to take. obviously what would like to see in place are sufficient stucktures of deterrents that foreign adversaries don't even think about meddling in our election. steve: like what? >> given the situation we inherited we're not in that place yet, given what happened in 2016 but we're working on it and in general terms what that involves is making sure that russia and others know the cost they will bear if they try to meddle in our elections would be significantly greater than whatever cost they impose on us. we don't want deterrents in cyberspace. we want our elections left alone. ainsley: north korea is urging us to drop the sanctions, accusing the washington,
accusing the president acting opposite of the singapore pledge. are we closer to see north korea denuking? we saw images of them possibly building more missiles? >> the performance we need is from north korea. the united states lived up to the singapore deggdeclaration. north korea has not taken the steps we feel are necessary to denuclearization. the idea we're going to relax sanctions on north korea's say-so is something that just isn't under consideration. we'll continue to apply maximum pressure to north korea until they denuclearization just as we are to iran. the president feels very strongly about it. we have been in consultation with other countries about keeping up the sanctions. we're determined to do it. brian: ambassador, north korea is now being the recipient of russia, is now saying since the nuclear threat is over, president indicated that, they're starting to trade more overtly and the u.n. says we're
tired of sitting on the sideline, we'll flood the zone with humanitarian aid. is that okay with you? >> we made it very clear all of these sources are fungible for north korea. they have been able to manipulate the international system over the years to get what they need to keep their economy going even at a very low level and keep their ballistic missile and nuclear weapons programs going. we think the maximum pressure campaign president trump put in place is what brought kim jong-un to the table in the first place. we'll not relent until we see progress on denuclearization. steve: it was great they did turn over the remains of americans from the korean war conflict but, ambassador, you know the story last week from "the washington post," sounds like their missile program is still going full tilt. is it? >> look, what a nation that was truly committed to turning the page would do here is return the remains of paul the foreign soldiers, south korean soldiers,
australians, others in the u.n. coalition in the early 1950s obviously as well as american soldiers there. is no point in withholding remains from a conflict that long ago. if they really want peace on the peninsula as they say, they don't need any negotiations with us to do it. they can do it on their own. brian: do you have anything to announce about a second meeting? >> no but, as i have said, secretary of state mike pompeo is prepared to go back to north korea to meet with kim jong-un. we proposed that in our most recent letter from the president to kim jong-un. the president is prepared to meet at any point. what we need is not more rhetoric, we need performance from north korea on denuclearization. ainsley: thank you, mr. ambassador. >> glad to be with you. ainsley: glad to have you. ainsley: jillian has more headlines for us. jillian: we're continuing to follow the story in the search for mollie tibbetts. her family thinks she may be
with someone she knows. her father joined us earlier to say he thinks she is still alive. >> the longer we go without finding her the more optimistic we are that she's with someone that doesn't want to harm her but doesn't know how to extricate themselves from this situation. jillian: the 20-year-old disappeared on july 18th after going for a jog. the reward for information leading to mollie is more than $277,000. an ex-marine will spend the next 15 years behind bar for plotting a christmas day attack inspited by isis. he was just sentenced after pleading guilty to attempt to provide support to the terror group. the california man was busted after discussing a plot to attack a popular tourist spot with under cover agents. today star witness rick gates will be back on the stand in the paul manafort trial. his ex-business partner that the two conspired to commit bank and tax fraud.
gates admitted to embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars from the former trump campaign chairman. the judge who has been clashing with prosecutors for days told them to find ways to expedite the case. this little boy thought he was playing a fun game at the cleveland indians game but he had no idea the prize would be this good. >> it is something little better than a dollar amount. if everybody could welcome tim lee from his year-long deployment. jillian: u.s. coast guard officer tim lee as you can see returning home to surprise his son at a ballgame. he was deployed to guantanamo bay for a year. never gets old. ainsley: they're amazing. brian: thank you, jillian. he 12 minutes after the hour. banking booms, bust and bailouts the untold story of the bank industry. our next guest says the story the swamp doesn't want told. james freeman, one.
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♪ ainsley: his new book, borrowed time, our next guest revealed big banks disturbing history of instability and government support, a story he says the swamp does not want told. the author and fox news contributor, james freeman joins us now. james, congratulations on the great book. >> thank you, ainsley. ainsley: out today. why did you write it? >> that's right. for all those people who were just infuriated watching the financial crisis and bailouts of institutions in this city and wonder is the way it has to be. do taxpayers have to rescue big banks when they get in trouble? the inspiring story we found, no it doesn't have to be that way, for the first century of citibank's history, it was a private, non-government backed institution. it was strong and healthy for most of that period. it actually bailed out the
government a few times. ainsley: then the government got involved and bailed them out and is that when the prompts began? >> citi in 1890 was strongest, biggest bank, people globinged to it. then you have the creation of the federal reserve, early 1900s, all of the government support and attention. what happens? pretty soon the government is bailing out citi when it gets into trouble. a lot of loans to the bank in 1920 but not that we can learn about them because the fed won't cough up the documents. ainsley: why won't they release the information? >> this is a big problem. this goes to the swamp and aspect of it, we're not going to be able to avoid repeating these failures if we can't learn about them. we couldn't get records on lending in the 1920s. we just got a letter last year from the fed saying they were not going to provide information on citi's troubles in real estate loans from more than 25
years ago. they said it is confidential. why does that have to be confidential? this is history now. we need to learn it. ainsley: they don't want the story told? >> they have been working very hard to keep the documents unwraps. i hope congress says to the fed, stop destroying documents. ainsley: goes on sale today, borrowed time, you can buy it right now on amazon. good deal. congrat is last. >> thanks a lot. ainsley: we've been telling you about the high school football coach fired after praying with his team. he has a big-time fan. legendary college coach, bobby bowden will join us live. ♪
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♪ >> two, one, zero, ignition. for first time spacex successfully launches a new communication satellite with a reused rocket booster. the new falcon 9 taking off from cape canaveral, florida, overnight. they can go back to space and back 100 times. the pentagon is banning personnel using fitness trackers and cell phones with geotracking. it was months after popular fitness tracking app revealed location of security forces around the move. good move. servicemembers are responsible for making sure the location features are turned off. here is steve and bobby bowden. steve: thank you very much. that's right, brian. legendary bobby bowden is standing by a high school football coach after he lost his job because he refused to stop praying after games.
in 2015 joe kennedy of bremerton high school in oregon it was fired for praying on the field. kendi is taking his fight to the u.s. supreme court. joining us right now is former head football coach at florida state university, bobby bowden, joining us from tallahassee. good morning to you. >> hey, good morning to you. steve: you have never met coach joe kennedy so why do you want to get involved in this case? >> because he is doing something i always did. i thought it was part of the program. it was for us. you know, and i'm thinking, if we're going to fire every coach or every teacher in public has prayer with his team, who is going to raise our children? steve: you know, times have changed. i know when you were coaching, when you first started the season, you would tell the parents and your players, just giving you a head's up, i will take your kids to church?
>> yep. i always told the parents that, when i was recruiting them. i'm going to take your son to church now, when he comes. we're going to have prayer together, you know it? if you don't want me to, i would always say this, if you don't want me to include your son, i will not. and i think after 50 something years, i think i had two families asked me not to include their son. it is funny, both are christians like i am. but i think they were afraid i was trying to get them to go to their church, which i wasn't. i would take my boys to a white church and they all had to attend. and then i would take them to a black church and they all had to attend. now the reason was that, to show them, once they got away from home, they were welcome to our churches whether they were white or black. steve: out in bremerton where coach kennedy coached and taught as well for seven years, after the games he would take a knee
and eventually the school board said you got to stop it, coach. he refused. so he was fired. and now you have added your name to this petition that is going in front of the supreme court. what do you want the supreme court to know about you and about in particular coach kennedy that we see right there taking a knee. >> just like i said at the first of the problem, by golly, if we're not going to raise our children, not give them good things, not have prayer with them, or for them, where are they going to get it? where are they going to get it? if we're going to fire everybody that has a prayer with a team, man, i wonder what will happen to our young people? it is -- surely everybody sees the problem going on in our schools today. people walking in off the street and killing 11 of them. killing 12 of them. killing two of them, things like that. you know it?
i mean, we need something stronger than us to seize this. i think we need to go to the man upstairs. steve: ultimately you would like to see coach kennedy get his job back or be able to coach somewhere else. bobby, you know how things are these days. we're in a very litigious society, when you introduce religion into things in the public square ultimately there is going to be somebody who may take offense to it. you talked about the two families who asked that you not take their sons to church. there is somebody that is going to object to fit. he gets his job back, but then he will get into trouble. >> can you do anything without somebody objecting to it? if you do it, someone is going to object. if you don't do it, some are going to object. i would rather be on the right side. to me that is on god's side.
steve: you say regardless of the supreme court decides, joe kennedy is a winner in your book? >> he most certainly is, man. hey, wouldn't you like to have him coaching your son? i mean, i would want him coaching my son, you know? these young men are in the hands of their coach. wouldn't it be awful to have a coach that was evil working with your son? i wouldn't want him there. i would love for my son to play for coach. steve: it is great to hear your point of view. bobby bowden coached the seminoles for many years. 57 years a coach. bobby, thank very much for joining us from florida with your point of view. >> thank you very much. steve: what do you think about that? "fox & friends".com. video of a truck slamming into car on a highway. it sends debris flying. why until you hear what happened to the person standing at the
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on the beach. brian: that is not as hard as it looks. looks like she was falling and flipping for our staff, watching this over and over again. 14 times. >> on lookers cheering after she lands the last flip. it has been seen more than four million times online. steve: excellent camera work. brian: what do we know about her background? ainsley: i think she is a gymnast. brian: jo, google that. steve: she lives in california. she is a gymnast. steve: that's it. brian: okay, she is good in sand. ainsley: can y'all do that? did you ever do that? brian: it is not hard. nobody can do it. that is why we showed it. ainsley: sabrina our producer, was a gymnast. >> we'll have sabrina doing that across the plaza. [buzzer] brian: they should go to the beach with uneven bars and put on a show. the beach can get boring. really. just sit there. steve: that is the whole idea.
you are going to enjoy nature, look at the ocean. brian: that is kind of boring. >> there are no words. do an awkward toss to todd about this? can you connect the dots? >> i will let you. ainsley: todd is talking to some voters. he is in romeo, michigan, because there is a big election today. todd, take it away. reporter: we polled voters here about brian's idea for uneven bars of the beach. four out of five people decided it was good idea. like the four out of five that recommended trident. not, not at all. we'll get to the issues. we begin with lucy. didn't know who she was voting for until a week ago. she made up her mind. why? >> i did, because president trump asked us to vote for john james. that is who we're voting for. reporter: your husband terry is voting for john james. you say it is about the hope that president trump brought to
this area. why do you say that? >> that's correct. he has given us hope, given the middle america, the opportunity, the belief we can now succeed. he is a president that believes what he says and does what he says and it has given us that opportunity. reporter: thank you very much. four out of five people at this table are going for mr. james. one individual is voting for sandy pensler, that is ed. he is retired from the fire department in new york. he is in roam wrote, michigan. the main issue gets you fired up is immigration, why? >> a lot of people getting handouts coming into the country and taking money and benefits away from veterans, homeless people. you know, it is out of control. think they have to get a handle on it. and put their foot down and change the ways. we have the worst immigration policies in the world as the president says. reporter: you support the president on immigration you're pretty fired up against who you
call replocrats. >> republicans that are more democrats than republicans. they're wolves in sheep's clothing. if we had 100% support for the president, a lot things would be different. like democrats they have 100% support, whatever trump says they all say no. reporter: understood. ed, thank you for helping keep our great city of new york city safe. dan is in sales. voting for james. your key issue is jobs. why? >> we were devastated inaway-2009. we lost a lot of jobs. trump brought back a lot of jobs. you see signs everywhere. if you can't get job in michigan, in the automotive industry, something is wrong with you. reporter: thank you. mike is in construction, voting for james as well. son is in the service. thank you, sir for your son's service.
you give 90% of credit for the jobs rebush here to president trump. why? >> absolutely. president trump created a jobs atmosphere in this country, companies want to come back to reinvest in the united states. they know the market great, i see great for many years. its purely to him because everyone has fought him from day one against him and he has pushed it through and helped make -- he is making our country great again. reporter: mike, thank you. thank you all for all of your time. frank wants to add -- >> eight years of trump, four years of pence and eight years of ivanka. >> wow, you heard it here. [cheers and applause] reporter: nothing more to add. ainsley: why only four of him? steve: thank you very much, todd. ainsley: prediction game. steve: 22 minutes before the top of hour. jillian joins with us the news. jillian: quite an interesting prediction there.
good morning. ms-13 leader accused of ordering horrific murders is complaining about life behind bars. midge gel angle diaz is asking a judge to improve his jail conditions. he is locked in a cell for 23 hours a day. also known as the reaper is accused of directing gang operations in more than four states. he pleaded not guilty. at least 20 people are under arrest after protesting i.c.e. outside after private prison. the demonstrators unhappy that the facility near nashville has a contract with i.c.e. some protesters blocking entrances to the prison so employees could not get inside. they play a limited role they shade in america's immigration system. former doj officer will become more and more important in the russia investigation. that is according to house intelligence committee chairman devin nunez who says bruce ohr has ties to the steele dossier. >> once they fired steele, which
at that point they should have not been meeting with him anymore, what they had, bruce ohr, whose wife nelly ohr was working for fusion gps was meeting and get information from christopher steele as they were trying to verify this unverified dossier. jillian: nunes says ohr acted as intermediary between british spy steele and fbi even after steele was fired. a tow truck dash-cam capturing the moment a car slams into a broken down truck on the side of the highway. look at the man. it sends him flying into the guardrail. take a closer look. see another man get off of the road and walk away. incredibly no one was seriously hurt. the driver of the white car they say was not paying attention. yikes! a look at your headlines. steve: unbelievable they were able to walk away from that.
thankfully. brian: wasn't too long ago janice dean was sitting in studio. she walked away from us, walked outside with her friend. >> i like to investigate the weather. i am the weather person. i have all my friends come visit me. my friends from north carolina and south carolina and florida. listen, come over here real quick. what are your kids names. >> this is christopher, george and peter. >> peter. are you going to have a nap in about an hour? yeah, that is what i'm doing too. this is debut on "fox & friends"? >> it is. >> fantastic. you look fabulous. look at his eyes. sleepy. i know how you feel. look at the map. across the u.s., it is hot. it feels like summertime. we've got heat advisories across the northeast. be extra careful. make sure you're indoors. a lot of air-conditioning for the pets, kids elderly. lies across the west, very, very
warm. not getting moisture we need for firefighters out there. we're watching historic wildfires there. we could see the potential for showers and thunderstorms in the forecast. wave to everybody at home. thank you for coming to "fox & friends." hi, sweet pea. i got a smile. steve: almost nap time for the little one. >> i can't wait. steve: the mom can't wait. ainsley: that is the way it is. brian: 19 minutes before the top of the hour. on a different note, much more serious note, violence in chicago, homelessness in seattle and needles. ainsley: needles. brian: needles all over the place in san francisco. what do they have all in common? each city is run by democratic leaders. our next guest says it is a time for a change at the top. ainsley: "toys for tots" derailed? amtrak stopping deliveries for them. the president of "toys for tots" tells us how they will get back on track, coming up.
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♪ >> ready. >> no, we'll jump. >> oh! jillian: we're back with quick headlines. appears the sun is settings on the sundance kid. robert redford announcing to "entertainment weekly" he is retiring from acting. he has been doing it since he was 21 years old. he thought, quote, that is enough. his final movie comes out next month. "seinfeld" star jason alexander is the new colonel sanders at kfc. >> you're a wreck. you're sweating bullets. it is the kung pow. george likes his chicken spicy. jillian: he is promoting the fast-food chain, chicken
buckets. brian: this rotation of celebrities really thrown me. jillian: welcome to today. brian: change gears. a story making headlines, violence rattling through chicago. 70 people were shot this weekend, making total number of people who were shot in the city so far this year at 1700 but chicago is not the only city with major problems. seattle facing a homeless epidemic with 12,000 people without homes. making third largest homeless population in the nation. san francisco, what a mess. the streets are filled with drugs and other things and used needles. what do these cities all have in common currently? they're run by democratic mayors with democratic principles and have been for the last decade. here to weigh in, the sites chairman for center for urban renewal, mark little. what do you believe are the democratic principles that are leading to this chaos? >> well, first of all, good morning, brian, good to be with
you again. first let me say to you it was evident last week that one of the major problems we have, when leaders get together as faith leaders did with the president of the united states to talk about how to fix our communities they were lambasted all across the country. brian: yeah. >> you can't even have a conversation about how to fix the problem but it is clear that the principles simply focused on the wrong issues. they need to be focused on employment, housing and education. specifically, employment for felons. we know that the workforce participation rate is all-time high, approaching 63%. when you got folks that come out of prison with non-violent felonies, you can't get a job, that simply results in more crime. a job keeps people from going back to jail. that's number one. number two, we know in some our cities we have city leadership who has misapplied their housing funds. we call it section 8.
that contributes to homelessness. third and finally, we've got an education problem in our city that these leaders simply aren't focusing on. we are leaders who are more intent on keeping our kids in failing schools. they have to embrace school choice and let a voucher take students where they can be educated. those are the issues. brian: maybe sanctuary city policies shouldn't be first and foremost on everyone's mind. they were under the impressions if you have a problem throw money at it. you say refocus the programs. >> they have to first stop throwing money at programs that have not worked, that is clear. when you look at what's happening in the cities that you mentioned. money not the problem, it's leadership. by the way leadership, not just of elected officials who want to stay in office but it's leadership also embraces the faith community that has solutions because they're dealing with these people on a
daily basis. they know where they are, they know what their needs are. employment, housing, education. brian: also the people could demand better results. look what happened to san francisco. who would ever vacation there or live there unless they had to? plus being so expensive. who would ever go to chicago in the certain areas? you have to be kidding me. a lot of these areas used to be fantastic places to visit. they have blown up. everybody should say, who are my leaders, i need to get new ones. they don't seem to say that. boggles my mind. marc little, thank you so much. >> thank you so much. brian: 11 minutes before the top of the hour. "toys for tots" derailed. amtrak stopping deliveries for the toys. the president of "toys for tots" tells us how they will try to get back on track. let's first check this with sandra smith to find out what she wants in her show over the next three hours. >> brian kilmeade, good morning to you. new reaction after economic
sanctions on iran were reimposed midnight last night. all eyes on the ohio special election today. is this a bellwether for things to come. the man who says it is time for rahm emanuel to go, and give him the job. gary mccarthy wants to be chicago's next mayor. he joins us following the deadly weekend in the windy city. our headliner a-team is on deck. tuesday morning in "america's newsroom." join us in about ten minutes. thr like a beach trip, so let's promote our summer travel deal on choicehotels.com like this. surfs up. earn a $50 gift card when you stay just twice this summer. or, badda book. badda boom. book now at choicehotels.com
to some wanting children. >> joining us is the lieutenant-general, president and ceo of the marine "toys for tots" foundation. thank you for being here. >> good morning. >> i saw this tweet over the weekend that amtrak was no longer going to be participating and i was furious. furious about this. tell us what happened. >> well, we got the word from the individual that runs their charter service and he said based on some decisions that were made they were no longer going to be able to support the annual train rides that take place from albany up to the canadian border and then to the west. these train rides, essentially deliver about 25,000 toys each year to depressed towns along those rail lines and there are a number of small towns along the way that really need help. this is become an institutional thing this would be the 20th anniversary this year we've been doing. brian: what is the reason? >> they, there has been some senior leadership changes. joe boardman was the former
chairman. he stepped down. they're restructuring this is one of the things that the director of the charter service thought was the thing to do. steve: now you need someone to step up? >> that's right. ainsley: i feel they're saking away the sleigh from santa. how can our viewers help? what is your plea? >> a lot of folks around the albany area are stepping up to say we'll make this work. face it, this is a marine program. we'll make it work. we will get toys to the children. could be another rail service. it could be trucking. we'll fine ways to get the toys to the kids. >> i want to point out amtrak did issue a tweet in response said "toys for tots" is a great program, amtrak continues proudly support it through the collection of toys at participating amtrak stations. collection is one thing but delivering them is another. >> that's correct. amtrak has been really wonderful. for the last six years they have been there -- >> but it is government funded.
they should be doing this. >> it will be worked out. steve: they made a business decision. ultimately it is about the toys. and those toys are so important to those kids up this. the toys will be there? >> they will be there. ultimately it is about the kids and the families, so we're going to do what it takes to do in order to make it work. brian: are amtrak employees proud of this effort in the past? how do you think they feel today? >> the support from amtrak employees in that part of new york is tremendous. brian: it is past tense now. >> we can help. "fox & friends" will help. you guys can help. i have faith. i have faith. brian: change their minds. steve: if somebody wants to step up, talk to the general about it. brian: has their own train. >> thank you, general, god bless you for what you're doing. more "fox & friends" coming up. ♪
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rosenstein threatening to impeach him for not providing enough records to congress yet reported when some documents are provided nunes does not actually read them nor will he answer many questions, especially not outside the friendly confines of fox news. >> you stepped aside from this investigation? >> just like you know already i'm not going to talk about intelligence committee business. democracy dies in darkness, my friend, get to work. >> the leading democrat party propaganda -- >> the chairman can say what he likes about the press. keeping him honest, it's his own partisanship at issue here. the house intelligence committee is not just any committee, one of two legislative bodies responsible for offer seeing some of the most important agencies we have and keeping the deepest secrets we hold. it matters whether or not a committee chairman is carrying water for their president and
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exactly what i saw behind closed doors with the witnesses devin nunes was unwilling to call, the subpoenas hwa unwilling to issue for the record and all the efforts he made to do what he could to act as donald trump's fixer in congress. now, the american people can judge it for themselves because they now heard it for themselves. >> saying it's his job and the republicans' job to clear the president. some people have been saying this is a partisan politician making a partisan speech at a fund-raiser. to that, what do you say? >> america was attacked by russia. they didn't attack us to just screw around or test software, they attacked the idea of america, that if you work hard here, you can make it anywhere here. they want to undermine that so that idea doesn't go to russia. you would think republicans and democrats would unite as an anti-dote towards that attack and make sure it doesn't happen again. every time we need devin nunes
on a committee that has always been bipartisan, he has chosen to put the president ahead of the country. now, in 89 days we have a chance to go in a different direction and not make it just about politics, about us and democracy. >> i'm sure if it was democratic president, there are democrats who would fault the same way. >> i hope not. >> congress is supposed to be a check and balance on the executive branch. your democratic congressman said nunes should resign for perverting the oath he took. >> i think that paul ryan, speaker ryan should remove devin nunes from being the chairperson. i don't think he should resign. that's on his constituents. if they also believe we have a duty to protect our country above anyone else they should vote him out on november 6th. i hope they do. they have a strong candidate i think will work in a bipartisan
way so this doesn't happen again. >> you saw our reporter talking to devin nunes and trying to get a statement from paul ryan all day. there has been radio silence. should the house leadership condemn these comments in your opinion. you said he should take him off the committee. >> paul ryan should condemn this because this goes to the corruption donald trump promised americans he would clean up. when i go across the country or talk to my own constituents, they're concerned about their healthcare and paychecks and concerned nothing gets solved in washington because it's all about power and corruption. if we wanted to show the american people that's not what washington is about and they are empowered, we should get rid of a corrupt chairman doing everything he can to protect the president in the investigation. >> you really think he is corrupt? >> i think he's been corrupted with power and he believes his job is to protect president trump. our country suffers because of
that. because the house intelligence committee chairman cannot show unity and protect us against future russian attacks, as we speak right now, the russians are attacking us. they're not afraid of us. they believe devin nunes and donald trump have given them green lights. i think there's too much corruption and what this election is about. >> congressman swalwell, thank you. i want to get two more views, from wilson, author, and president of the senate conservatives fund. rick, these comments by nunes, are they really a surprise, considering all of nunes' past behavior when it comes to defending the president and the things we've seen him do? >> devin nunes said out loud what everyone has known for a long time. he admitted his culpability in an effort to obstruct the investigation to the ties of the president of the united states to russia. this is a guy who is now
facilitating what is essentially a conspiracy to obstruct justice and essentially facilitating for political purposes only an investigation that could get into the heart of the russian meddling in our elections. i think it was one of the most shocking -- i'm not surprised because devin nunes is about as intelligent as a bucket of warm spit. i'm shocked he did it in any room whatsoever where anyone could have had a recording device. this is 101 stuff. this guy went out there and said things that put him as a target as someone who is inordinately corrupt and aiding and abetting the obstruction of an investigation into russian attacks on our country. >> ken, is it chairman nunes' and other republicans job to clear the president? >> not to clear him, no. he's come to the conclusion, quite publicly, that there wasn't collusion. that's different from the russian attacks on our elections. you heard the congressman just
before us conflate the two. he jumped from one to the other quite smoothly. frankly, the president messes himself up doing this, too. there is a difference between the two. what devin nunes is doing inelegantly, i will grant you, the democrat side of the democrats saying, elect me so i can impeach the president. you have one of the biggest donors in tom stire. this is an element of the campaign this year. it is an element of the campaign, whether it should be or not, i think not, it is, on both sides of the aisle. one side wants -- they're selling impeaching the president and the other side is selling protecting the president from impeachment. that's the reality of this election. it isn't new. >> rick. >> ken, i want to say this very clearly. devin nunes did not come to the conclusion that there was no collusion with russia or
conspiracy to engage with russia, he simply said he would stop any investigation that could lead to that. we will never find out if we have devin nunes in charge of this. this is the proverbial fox in the henhouse problem and nunes has stated over and over again. he's gone out with wild claims about unmasking and all these secret reports he produced and all been completely non-entities, nothing burgers of the worst kind. we see the secret agenda underneath all this theater he's been engaged in. that agenda is to -- >> secret? >> to protect the donald trump presidency no matter what. this is not his job as a sworn member of congress. they swear to uphold the constitution, they're a co-equal branch of the government. i know you know that. they're not a bunch of junior managers at a trump golf club trying to make the boss happy.
>> look, devin nunes can easily, and he appears to believe he is doing both of those things. he of course has not said what you just said he said, he has said the president hasn't colluded with the russians. that is his conclusion. you may not agree with that conclusion, you're waiting for actual evidence to show up. >> why would we want that? >> and then of course the continuing rhetorical problem of people on both sides of the aisle that conflate the russian involvement in our elections pleural, and the question of collusion of which there is -- >> the president himself -- >> and i don't know about the -- >> ken, you pointed out -- >> devin nunes -- >> has you pointed out -- >> can i finish? >> you pointed out as the president impeachment, impeachment is a political
underundertaking. >> you can keep going. i will ask you this question. as you pointed out, the president continues to call the mueller investigation a witch hunt. he's not talking about the allegation of collusion, talking about the entire thing as a witch hunt. devin nunes in that tape says if sessions doesn't unrecuse himself, if mueller won't clear the president, it's up to house republicans. that doesn't sound like a co-equal branch of government. >> that's the conclusion he's come to. >> well, and he's done that insofar as he has the authority to do it. >> he hasn't seen any of the evidence. >> that's not completely true. there's overlapping evidence they have the mueller folks have. >> and what happened in watergate, there still isn't evidence of collusion, and that's because there wasn't collusion. there was involvement by the russians in the election but that's not -- >> you say based on -- you've
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conspiracy and collusion. i think we have a lot more trail to travel down with the evidence the mueller investigation has been gathering. what you saw in this recording with devin nunes, he doesn't care. he can have a videotape of vladamir putin handing trump a bag of cash and he would say, no, we have to protect the president, no, we will block any investigation, we will try to get the deputy attorney general fired so we can have our people short circuit into the president's investigation into russia and investigation into the interference, which is part and parcel of the president's team colluding with russia in this election. >> ken, i want you to respond and we have to go. >> this does appear to be where you end up depends where you start. rick starts with -- you heard the book title. i am a truth finder and truth seeker and also litigated in the fisa court so the unmasking is a serious deal to me. there is no collusion here.
>> you can't say that -- you have not heard the evidence. >> anderson, i answered that question. asked and answered, your honor. >> the collusion so far, my qualifier, what we've seen so far spending more time than was spent in watergate is no evidence yet. you don't have any either. you're describing circumstances -- >> we do not have the evidence. i'm saying we should as americans to wait for the investigation to conclude. as a law enforcement officer i assume you believe the same thing. >> yes. i just think all the information they need is available at this point. what else is there to get? >> ken, appreciate it. rick as well. for the record we requested devin nunes tonight. he did not respond to our question. coming up new clues with what robert manafort is up to, the president's ex-partner and the citizenship of the first lady's parents and how they got through in the first place, a
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. the judge in the paul manafort tax fraud case made headlines saying he was wrong. and that won't the other news. rick gates could signal how important he is. what are you learning about a discussion lawyers had with the judge about gates? >> reporter: anderson, as the president continues to attack the whole mueller investigation as a witch hunt that's run its course, we learned more evidence in fact the focus of this investigation, beyond the manafort trialy the question of russian interference and the question of whether the trump campaign cooperated with that russian interference is still an open investigation. there was testimony on tuesday, rick gates, the former deputy campaign chairman for the trump
campaign, was questioned about his interviews, more than 20 interviews with the special counsel. the prosecutor said he wanted that testimony kept secret, because as the prosecutor described in papers presented to the judge, that relates to an ongoing criminal investigation in his words. what are the two lines of investigation special counsel are looking at. manafort's financial crimes we've been following these last few days at court and also russian interference and was there any cooperation from the trump campaign. by the prosecutors saying that is part of an ongoing criminal investigation, you get an indication that line of inquiry is still not closed. there have also been clashes between the prosecutors and the judge and the judge at one point admitting he was wrong. what else did he say? >> that's one of the interesting qualities of this trial. the judge is a very vocal judge. i've been there several times as
he chastised a prosecutor almost like a schoolteacher, telling him to look him in the eye and give a yes answer instead of a yeah answer. there was a moment yesterday the judge disputed the prosecution's ability to keep an expert witness inside the courtroom, in this case, a former irs agent and expert tax witness, the crime involved tax evasion. the prosecutor said, wait a second, judge, you approved this decision earlier, just look at the transcript. lo and behold they looked at the transcript and the judge did in fact approve that. today, a bit of mea culpa from the judge, i did say that was okay, my fault, my bad. >> thanks very much. a happy moment for first lady melania trump as her parents became u.s. citizens and the parents controversial calls to end the immigration policy that brought them here. according to a source with
direct knowledge, she did what many children do, sponsored her parents' green cards. this is what the president is trying to eliminate. he calls it chain migration. under the current broken system, a single immigrant can bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives. >> we want to get rid of chain migration. ending chain migration. >> ending chain migration. >> this was a schumer deal. schumer wanted this. >> we have to get rid of chain migration, all of these things we're talking about. >> a guy comes in and then you have to bring his aunt, his uncle, his father, his grandfather, his grandson. >> a total desires that threatens our security and economy. >> and by a different marriage -- >> provides a gateway for terrorism. they think it's good politically. i tell you what, i think it's horrible politically. what do i know?
but i did become president in a year and a half. the first in-law's attorney calls it family reunification, not immigration and bedrock policy. the first lady's office declined to comment. what can you tell us about the process the first lady's parents 20 went through to become citizens? >> we're learning how melania trump's parents came to this country and became citizens earlier today. it was in fact the first lady who sponsored her parents for their green card. to be clear, and you made clear, this is not out of the ordinary, a way many americans bring their family members to this country. the first lady's parents are from slovenia. we've seen them around washington, d.c., and sometimes travel with the president and first lady. up until this point we didn't have clarity how they had gotten their green cards, turns out the first lady took advantage of the
family migration card like so many others do so they could settle down. >> all in contrast from the president's personal position. has the white house had anything to say about the disconnect? >> it's incredibly noteworthy melania did this for her parents and a practice her husband does not like. we heard president trump, you just played a great clip there, rail against the family migration policy many many times, refers to it as chain migration. that particular part of family visa is a category trump wants to get rid of all together because he says they are harmful to this country. the first lady's office is not commenting on any of this, however, we do have a statement from victor and his wife's immigration lawyer, he told me earlier today, i can't comment on the president's politics when it comes to my clients but i have stood up against the
president's emigration policies personally. you're seeing a disconnect between the president's policy views and the fact his wife has taken advantage of that policy for her parents. >> a source close to the white house tells cnn president trump is scheduled to have dinner with his personal attorney, rudy guiliani and going back and forth whether the president will agree to be interviewed by president counsel, pros and cons on that ahead. saving on this! saving on this! saving in here. rewarded! learn more at theexplorercard.com so what do you guys want? pistachio. chocolate chip. rocky road. i see what's going on here. everybody's got different taste. well, now verizon lets you mix and match your family unlimited plans so everybody gets the plan they want, without paying for things they don't. jet-setting moms can video-chat from europe. movie-obsessed teens can stream obscure cinema. it's like everyone gets their own flavor of unlimited. (chuckles) it's a metaphor. simile, not a metaphor. hm. well played.
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will discuss with the ongoing negotiations of a possible interview with robert mueller and that the mueller team limited the areas of questioning what they fear a perjury trap. joining me, alan dershowitz, author of the case against impeaching trump -- impeaching trump. >> what do you think the president talks about what he calls a perjury trap. can you picture mueller agreeing to that? >> i can't. the strategy has been for guiliani to make mueller an offer he can't accept to paraphrase the godfather. trump says he wants to testify. all his lawyers are unanimous saying he couldn't testify. the end result making mueller an offer he can't accept, mueller to be the one that turns down the deal. trump says, i wanted to talk to
mueller. it was mueller's fault and he didn't accept a reasonable offer from my lawyers and we're off to subpoena land. >> isn't the easiest way to avoid the perjury trap is to tell the truth? >> that is correct. part of the issue is whether or not the president really intends to testify, or be interviewed voluntarily by the special counsel's office. if he doesn't really want to be interviewed, which the longer this has dragged out, it appears to be, then the strategy that alan just described, i think is accurate, they're really just playing game, more for pr purposes, to make it appear that he wants to be cooperative, when, really, what they want is just to drag it out and force the special counsel to issue a subpoena. the allegation that it is a perjury trap really is silly because if the president had a story that we wanted to tell there would be no risk of per
injuring himself. >> professor, let me ask you about the perjury. >> sure. >> if the president has, as he insists nothing to hide and done nothing wrong, why all this brinksmanship. it's not the american public's fault that the president had a disconnect from the truth. >> first of all, no lawyer ever puts the interest of the united states above the interests of his country. there was a bear rhys ster in 1815 who said, i have to put the interests of my client over the interests of the country. a lot of other people put the interests of the country first. first, let me explain why every lawyer you ask, every defense lawyer would give you the same answer he would be walking into a perjury trap. let's assume he was asked one question, did you know about the meeting in the trump tower with your son? let's assume he honestly didn't know and answers that honestly, no, i didn't know. one witness says he did know.
that witness is cohen. cohen may be lying. at that point, the perjury trap has been sprung and mueller could theoretically charge him with perjury and not telling the truth. you never advise a client to answer truthfully if there is another person who will answer differently and that person will be believed by the prosecutor. that's what we call a perjury trap. >> does that seem viable? first, you're referencing michael cohen who said there were other people present in the room. if there's not actual documentation, why would the prosecution decide to side with michael cohen who has lied about other stuff? >> we don't know whether michael cohen has been interviewed in any way. using michael cohen as an example doesn't comport with using someone interviewed under oath or in front of investigative agents or before the grand jury.
the bigger point is that if the president had a story he wanted to tell, then they would want to submit to a voluntary interview. i agree, most criminal defendants or criminal subjects, i should say, would not want to be interviewed voluntarily. they would be interviewed pursuant to a subpoena or requested to come in before the grand jury. i think the president's legal advice is consistent with what most subjects of an investigation would do. the difference is that he's the president of the united states and publicly his team has said that there is no reason that he should not be able to tell his side of the story. >> professor dershowitz, for guiliani to say if this isn't over by december 1st, this would be in violation of the rules. there actually isn't a rule.
customary but not codified anyone. do you agree the former u.s. attorney is over his skis about this? >> no, i don't think so. one thing mueller doesn't want to become is comey and doesn't want to be accused of influencing the election. i'm told mueller was furious at comey when comey did what he did before the election last time, even though they're close friends. to the last thing he wants to do is be accused of having any influence on the midterms. >> thanks so much. i want to give you a quick update on a story we've been following, 11 months after hurricane maria death toll was 64, they're admitting it may be closer to 1400. cnn had to sue the government to get the statistics. according to researchers who took part in a study by harvard and other schools the puerto rican government was less than helpful providing access to their stats.
documents show 1,027 more deaths than normal occurred after the storm ended in 2017. officials say that's only an estimate and haven't officially updated the death toll. the study of harvard and others had shown the deaths could be higher than the 1400 figure and the president praised the response to hurricane maria. the national park service said it received a permit nor the group, called unite the right, to stage a rally across the street from the white house. it comes a year after a rally left one counter-protester dead. the speakers will include the organizer of that rally along with the grand wizard, kkk, david duke, who is the subject of spike lee's new movie about an african-american infiltrating the kkk, a true story. be right back. oh!
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charlottesville, virginia, when violence broke out and a protester was mowed down by someone driving a car. and spike lee's amazing new movie "black klansman" who infiltrated the kkk. and spike lee is on the cover of "time" magazine. that's your first cover on "time" magazine? >> ever. >> i would have expected three or four by now. >> no. >> i have to ask you about your t-shirt. god protect robert mueller. did you make that yourself? >> no. but -- there's a history in this country, so i just hope god puts his hands on him and he gets to do what he has to do, to the end. >> i want to ask you about this film. i went to see it a couple of
months ago actually. it's a period film in the '70s. have you ever heard of this story before? >> no. >> explain. >> i was called out of the blue sky, i have a project for you. what is it? in six words, he pitched it, black man ill filtrates kkk. >> were you in? >> i'm in. is it true? it's true. automatically i thought the great david chappell. >> very briefly, this is an african-american police officers, the first on this police force. >> colorado springs. >> he sees an ad for the kkk in the newspaper, calls them up and starts talking to them. >> no. he left a message. >> he left a message. >> he left his name. they call him back. so the premise is that he needs
a white -- to play him in person. that's adam driver. >> right. >> it's set in the '70s. >> '70s. >> i mean, it's so evocative of that time. it is so timely today. >> yes. that's the thing that blows you away when you're sitting there watching this. >> that was the plan. with my co-writer, we did not want this to just be a history lesson, even though it took place in the '70s, we still wanted it contemporary. a lot of stuff said way before the '70s saying them and you hear them today and the lexicon of politics and guys in office. >> it's one of the things so startling about the film is we like to think about we've evolved and things change, and, you know, i mean, this doesn't go away. the questions have raised the divisions, it doesn't go away.
>> well, i've been on this show many years talking about the same thing. the thing -- i know i might be giving a spoiler alert. i was in mueller's vineyard august 12th. i watched what i feel is homegrown american red, white and blue terrorism. >> you're talking about last year at charlottesville? >> august 12th. and my house is at the 18th hole. i knew they were coming because i saw the secret service in the trees at 18 holes. he's on the golf course, turns his phone off and just relaxed. when i told him he hadn't heard about it. >> you went up to him and told him? >> he hadn't heard about it. >> what did you say to him? >> i don't remember exactly.
i don't want to give the whole thing, i want to tell this -- i thought he heard, he didn't hear about it. the film "black panthers" opening on the one year anniversary of charlottesville. >> that was intentional? that was important to you? >> very much so. what happened there -- here's the thing for me, the president of the united states had a chance to denounce hate. hate groups. the whole world saw what happened and he didn't do it. >> there's good people on both sides. that friday night -- the tiki torch rally, to go to the robert e. lee statute. these were young white males, hundreds of them, this is in the video, chanting, jews will not replace us, blood and soil will not be the slogan. they're not wearing masks.
>> left and right. >> does it -- did it surprise even you? you focused on -- you've done so many films about race and race in america, did that even surprise you, though, how blatant it was? >> no. you know why? because this guy we've got in the white house is not even a dog whistle, it's a bullhorn. then, also, anderson, we've seen a rise to the right. it's not just america, it's worldwide. this thing has happened worldwide. >> one of the things lebron james said in that interview with don lemon the other night, he believes the president has created an environment people who hold toxic racist views feel more empowered to give voice to them. >> they have the green light from the white house. >> you think it filters down from the top that way. the top down. all mexicans are rapists.
we can be here three hours with the hateful statements he said. >> what do you hope people get from the film? >> i'm very leery of providing takeaways. i respect the audience intelligence too much. i think if we just look at this film and the ending, we've got to do better. we've got to do better. >> i'm not going to say what the ending of the film is. >> ends in charlottesville. >> the theater i was watching it in, you could have heard a pin drop afterward, the impact. >> that's one of the things we want to do, connect the past to the present. i'd like to say at this time god bless susan, who is coming up on the anniversary of the loss of her daughter again, and a terrible act of american terrorism.
she no longer has a daughter because of that. >> we'll be talking to her tomorrow. you have kids. do you have these conversations? >> oh, yes, we do. because i had these conversations with my parents. one of my most -- it's not a fond memory, but april 1968, in front of my stoop in brooklyn, new york, i hear a woman screaming. screaming at the top of her lungs. and then, as the voice gets closer, that sounds like my mother. and then, as she got closer, she was screaming, they murdered dr. king, they murdered dr. king. so, i'm 61. so i was -- that was a sweet spot. i was young enough to see everything and not old enough to
go to vietnam. it was all the turbulence of '60s and '70s, right there in brooklyn, taking it all in. >> would you want to sit down with donald trump? >> no. >> have a conversation? >> i don't use his name either. agent orange. got it from busta rhymes, shout-out to brooklyn, busta. >> do you consider him your president? >> no. might be putin. >> so what -- what -- >> you look kind of shook, anderson. >> no -- i find the movie -- i was shaken by the film. >> thank you very much. when i thought of it as a period piece, oh, it's a look back. it's so -- there's such relevant things -- >> that's what people responded to, it's not just a history
lesson, even though it takes place in the '70s, it's also the world we live in, the >> spike lee, it's always good to talk to you. appreciate it. i want to check in with chris and see what he's working on for "cuomo prime time" at the top of the hour. >> listening to you is what i'm doing, talking to spike. i think you do the right thing when you confront the conversations, anderson. they're not easy to have. obviously they're not even easy for us to have sometimes. but we have to talk about what is real in this country because we're seeing what happens when you don't. it winds up getting harnessed and weaponized anyway. the same issues wind up getting used. the film is important. the anniversary coming up is important. and god forbid that this stupid idea of having yet another set of unify the -- whatever they're called with these demonstrations they want to have to mark this
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because of the catastrophic scope of the destructive wildfires. it includes the mendocino complex fire which as of this morning had burned 304,000 acres. it's the largest fire in the history of california. joining me now is congressman mike thompson. thanks for being with us. the president has declared a state of emergency in california. you're urging him to do more, declare a major disaster declaration. can you just explain what that distinction means and how it would help fighting these fires. >> well, thank you, anderson. in my district -- and you nailed it. over 300,000 acres burning in that mendocino complex fire. we've had good support from the federal government. the local assistance grants from the federal government have been there to help us fight the fire. but we also need help in addressing all the problems associated with it. the public assistance, the shared financial responsibility between the state, local, and federal government, and the
individual assistance that will allow people to get the help they need to rebuild their home and to get back in their home. this is -- this is just a terrible situation, and in my county of lake, this is the fourth year in a row that we've had major forest fires. and people are devastated by this, and we really need the president to declare the disaster and to be forthcoming with all the federal resources that we can muster. >> i know you and other lawmakers sent the letter to the president two days ago. have you heard anything back as of yet on it? >> i've been in contact with fema. we've been in contact with the white house. it's running its course. but the president could do a world of good by stepping it up and making the declaration now. there's a lot of lives depending upon this. it would make life much easier in these devastated areas. and folks really need the security of knowing that their
federal government's with them. >> you know, one of the things the president has said about this, and i'm wondering how concerned, if you were concerned, about what the president tweeted several days ago, that it was a lack of water is to blame for the difficulty in containing the fires because every fire official i've talked to said that's simply not the case. it's not a problem of water. >> well, we have the water that we need, and i'd really like the president and everybody else to stop tweeting and focus on the disaster at hand. folks need help. people need help. our communities need help. and that's what we should be focusing on. >> in terms of your own district, constituents, how are they doing tonight? >> well, they're doing a little better. people are repopulating their homes. but we still have a fire that is not contained. it won't be contained for another month. it's burning, and we have red flag warnings again tonight.
and this could exacerbate the situation. and today we had another fire break out in another part of my district in napa. so this is an ongoing threat. the fuel load is very, very heavy. resources are stretched. we've got so many firefighters, so many aircraft and pieces of equipment out there. we really can't -- we really can't sustain a lot of this. we need the help from the federal government. the people that i represent want to know that their federal government is with them and will be with them through this terrible time. >> certainly our thoughts and prayers are with not only everybody affected by this fire but all the men and women on the fire line who are working around the clock. i know your son is a firefighter who could be drawn up to deliver mutual aid if necessary. i mean the firefighters just don't get enough credit, and it's extraordinary what they're doing, just working around the clock. so we appreciate you being on, congressman thompson. thank you so much.
it was much lengthier, which i think caused some of us to speculate that all of these delays related to some juror issue, but the jurors are all back. there's been no further discussion of the reason for the delay. testimony is ongoing. >> the other intriguing thing that happened today was about sealed testimony about some rick gates testimony that could have to do with an investigation that is still ongoing. when we consider what investigations are still ongoing that rick gates might have to do with, we're looking at the larger special counsel investigation into the russia probe. what do you make of that testimony being put under seal by the judge? >> well, that came after an objection when the defense asked rick gates if he was asked questions by the fbi about his role in the trump campaign. and so at that point there was this sidebar where no doubt they discussed the scope of rick gates' cooperation. it would not surprise me if he wasn't providing information about the time that he served as deputy campaign manager.
she would be on the computer taking his dictations. that's the kind of relationship they had. also they're extremely close friends. so he's probably shared a lot with her. >> and what would andrew miller know, and why would he say no to a subpoena? why would he risk that? >> she's actually a key figure we're learning. kristin told me andrew miller was the person who handled his schedule and was in that assistant role during those key months, july, august, september, october, november, when all of this was brewing and erupting in the lead-up to the election. >> when podesta was -- i'm sorry, when roger stone was tweeting things like it will soon be john podesta's time in the barrel. >> exactly right. >> from my reporting on what mueller's team has been asking witnesses, roger stone has been somebody that keeps coming up and they want to know what did roger stone have to do with the campaign? he was dismissed in 2015. he says he quit, the campaign said he was fired. did he leave or was he working
in an unofficial capacity, was he communicating with donald trump, if he was, what was he saying. if he's communicating with donald trump behind the scenes and maybe if he's communicating with wikileaks behind the scenes, was he passing information. those are all unknowns right now, they're questions. >> right. clearly he was still supporting trump and trying to work on his behalf and trying to use these wikileaks, use those e-mails to trump's advantage. he has gotten himself into really hot water, as have other individuals. i don't know that they realized that this would turn into a federal inquiry of this magnitude, and now the weight of the mueller investigation is wearing down heavily on people like roger stone, his inner circle, people like don junior, who probably didn't realize what they were getting into. >> we will see what happens there. anna schecter, great reporting as always. thank you very much for joining us. and to help me break this down, i'm joined by a reporter at the "daily beast," betsy
woodruff and glen kirschner, who spent his more than 30-year career working in d.c. betsy, first to you. give us the broader picture of what we can now conclude that mueller is looking into. >> we know mueller is deeply interested in some of the more fringe figures sort of on the periphery of the trump campaign. this indicates he's casting a wide net. there's two different ways of reading mueller's investigation of roger stone. one possible interpretation of all the evidence that we've seen thus far, all the reporting, mine, yours, everything that we're hearing, is that mueller is genuinely on the trail of finding something potentially unlawful that roger stone may have been involved in. sources have speculated to me that it could be a financial issue, kind of analogous to the trouble manafort has gotten into, that there is potential law breaking that would have nothing to do with trump or the campaign that mueller could be investigating. that's one possible reading of all the reporting, one way of making sense of it. another way of making sense of it, which is sort of the way that would be best, the most
happy interpretation for roger stone and company is that mueller has a responsibility to check every box. he has a responsibility to leave no stone unturned, to investigate thoroughly every lead, to talk to everyone who could know anything about potential collusion. so just the fact that he's doing a very thorough investigation wouldn't necessarily mean that he's about to indict someone. either of those interpretations is a way of looking at the reporting that we've gotten thus far. given that it's mueller and he's hard to predict, it's hard to say which way this will pan out. >> no stone unturned, nice pun. roger stone is sort of named in the latest indictment by robert mueller of the 12 russians, that indictment that came out in july. the conspirators, posing at guccifer 2.0 also communicated with u.s. persons about the release of stolen documents. they wrote to a person who was in regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign of donald j. trump. that person is roger stone.
glenn. >> so katy, it looks like the circle continues to constrict around roger stone. this is sort of a classic investigative tactic. bob mueller and his team are going to the people who are closest to mr. stone both personally and professionally. miss davis we have heard reporting has both a personal relationship and a business relationship with mr. stone. andrew miller apparently was more of a business relationship. but if he was roger stone's scheduler, he could be a bonanza of potentially incriminating information. as but one example, we came to learn when roger stone testified before the house intelligence committee behind closed doors, he was apparently asked about meetings with russians and he said he had none. however, we then heard he did have that little meeting that he forgot about with henry greenberg, not his real last name. he was a potential russian operative. mr. greenberg was looking for $2 million in exchange for dirt on
hillary clinton. how mr. stone could forget that is sort of beyond belief. but what mr. mueller is going to be looking at is his schedule, his e-mail communications, his texts, anything he said orally to both miss davis and andrew miller, because that's actually going to be a fairly easy perjury charge to prove if the investigative team can get any corroboration for the fact that he didn't forget about the meeting, he concealed it from the house intelligence committee. >> in my conversations in the past two hours about this -- about roger stone and the folks that are being interviewed, people keep bringing up don junior as well. not necessarily in direct relation to roger stone per se but as somebody who also could be very exposed in the mueller investigation. betsy, again, just remind our audience how don junior -- what don junior has at risk right now. >> one of the biggest challenges
that junior faces is the fact that he attended this controversial meeting in trump tower that russians who are connected to the kremlin set up for the stated purposes of providing dirt on hillary clinton to the trump campaign. now, depending on which lawyers you talk to, you'll hear different interpretations of what type of legal liability that could potentially open up donald junior to. one term i hear thrown around is this question of conspiracy. could junior be alleged to have conspired, to have participated in an effort designed to circumvent campaign finance laws by getting material from a foreign government or from a foreign entity and using it on a campaign, which is against the law. even though there's no evidence thus far that russians actually provided dirt to the trump campaign, that meeting, of course, was a big disappointment to the very high level trump campaign officials that participated in it. that said, for legal purposes, that may not necessarily
exculpate trump junior. >> if you try to rob a bank, it doesn't matter whether or not you're successful in robbing that bank. glenn, one other thing, "the washington post" editorial board is saying enough's enough. time for mueller to bring out the big guns. it's time for him to subpoena the president. glenn, what do you think? >> katy, i don't know that bob mueller can subpoena the president because -- an i worked for bob mueller, he was my chief of homicide right here in d.c. we're governed by the policies of the department of justice. and ordinarily we don't subpoena targets of an investigation. why is that? because a target of an investigation by definition has a right against sel self-incrimination. you don't become a target unless the investigators are looking to indict you. so we don't know that he's ripened into a target but if he has ripened into the target, then doj policy would say bob
mueller can't subpoena him. there is an exception to the policy, but in my 30 years as a prosecutor i've never seen it employed. so i -- if i were to give my informed opinion, i don't think we'll ever see a subpoena going from bob mueller to the president. >> interesting. glenn kirschner, betsy woodruff, guys, thank you very much. gentleman and lady, i could say. coming up, the city of charlottesville is preparing for a state of emergency ahead of the one-year anniversary of last year's deadly white supremacist rally. so has the conversation on race evolved one year later? you're watching msnbc. i get unlimited 1.5% cash back. it's so simple, i don't even have to think about it. so i think about mouthfeel. i don't think about the ink card. i think about nitrogen ice cream in supermarkets all over the world. i think about the details. fine, i obsess over the details. think about every part of your business except the one part that works without a thought your ink card. introducing chase ink business unlimited with unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase.
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does this ring a bell, i think there is blame on both sides. almost one year ago, the president delivered those very words shortly after a working vacation in bedminster, new jersey. on august 15, 2017, speaking to our entire country, president trump refused to condemn the white nationalists responsible for turning an already violent "unite the right" rally in charlottesville, virginia, deadly. deadly because james fields jr. allegedly drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters, killing 32-year-old heather heyer. he pleaded not guilty to federal hate crimes charges. he's been charged under virginia law with murder and other crimes. the president's lack of moral authority in that moment ignited a nationwide debate over race in
america, a debate that continues today because on the eve of the anniversary of that deadly clash, where is the president's ire? it's focused on nfl players protesting racial injustice in america. the president tweeted be happy, be cool, and instructed the players to stand proudly for your national anthem or be suspended without pay. this as the city of charlottesville prepares to go under a state of emergency just hours from now. joining me is nbc news kelly o'donnell in new jersey where the president is on his, quote, working vacation. kelly, why have we not heard anything from the white house other than tweeting about the nfl? >> reporter: well, there's no easy answer for that, katy. the white house has not put out a statement about this, the president has not. he did do an event on prison reform, which was covered by the tv pool and journalists in the pool. that was yesterday. that's part of the working part of working vacation.
and that's the most recent sort of public sighting we've had of the president that had some business related to it. it's an opportunity for the president to comment on this. we will have to look for his -- i don't have the microphone on. there we go, my apologies. that's my bad. the president could take this step and he has elected not to thus far. we'll have to see on the anniversary itself whether that makes any difference. what we have been talking about to some degree today is the new book by omarosa newman and she is making very serious charges against the president on the issue of race. there have been others critical of the president on this topic over time, and certainly she had been one of the people who had supported the president. she served 11 months in the administration. her book, which is being reported on by different entities, it's not out yet publicly, an she's accusing the
president of, in her description of kind of coming to a realization she felt that he was in fact bigoted. the white house has come out with a statement and that is notable, because the news of this book was coming and yet they had kind of held back. but today a really sharply worded statement from sarah sanders that says in part that this book is riddled with lies an false accusations. it's sad that a disgruntled former white house employee is trying to profit off these false attacks and even worse, that the media would now give her a platform after not taking her seriously when she had only positive things to say about the president during her time in the administration. as you pointed out, the president did choose to tweet about the nfl players, that season kicking up again. he has found that to be a topic that has fired up some of his audiences and a topic that he has returned to time and again, trying to, i suppose, influence the culture of the nfl. yet there have been really mixed
reviews about that, in part where the president says some of the athletes don't know what they're protesting when many of them have articulated specifically what they have protested, which has been law enforcement incidents involving african-american men where they have had a really troubled history, and that's one of the things they have been trying to speak out about through that symbolism. >> i think they have been pretty clear on that. let's remind everybody, omarosa stayed in the administration for four months after what happened in charlottesville. four months. kelly o'donnell, kelly, thank you very much. you're very deft with the microphone. with me now, michael denzel smith, author of "the new york times" best-seller "invisible man" got the whole world watching a young black man's education, and "washington post" columnist, christine emba. the president is tweeting about the nfl because he believes it's a political winner for him. steve bannon has gone out there
and said out loud that identity politics is a winner for donald trump. it worked in 2016, it will work in the midterms, it will work in 2020. as long as the democrats are talking about race, donald trump is winning, which is why you're seeing him do things like tweet about the nfl. >> i disagree with that because i'd say that donald trump is tweeting about the nfl because he's a racist. we've known he's a racist since at least 1989 when he tried to get the central park five killed, executed for a crime they did not commit. and maybe before that when he wouldn't rent any of his properties to black people. the president of the united states is a white nationalist, is a white supremacist. that is who he is. and so in seeing the nfl players be insubordinate and not deferential to a white supremacist notion to what country should be, he is calling
for them to bending the knee to him, to say to him that they need to recognize their place and not step out of line, to entertain us, to be the black bodies that entertain us. i don't know that it goes beyond that calculation that he's like so politically invested in this idea. now, steve bannon, sure, he's the architect of all of that as far as a political operative goes, but this is just -- these are just the held beliefs of the president of the united states. >> what do you think, christine? do you think that this is -- this is who he is at his core, or do you think that this is somehow related to strategy for politics? >> sad to say, i think it's a little bit of both or maybe a lot of both. as we just heard, donald trump does have a history of bigotry and racial divisiveness, but he also has an unusually strong finger on the touch of the public pulse. he sees, we all see that one
thing that drives voters, that drives politics, that drives how people think and feel about our country is emotion, and particularly fear. and donald trump is really good at exploiting that. he makes note of -- seeks outlines of divisiveness along racial lines, whether it's at the nfl, whether it's not being able to say that white supremacists are actually bad at charlottesville and sort of fans the flames of this disagreement, making people, yes, afraid of insubordinate football players or afraid of demographic change, knowing that when people are afraid, they will vote for someone like him who promises to make the country great again, obviously harkening back to a time when nfl players were quiet and black people didn't do anything. >> i think what people saw in donald trump on the campaign trail, a lot of his voters, is they believed he would be a president that would protect them from change. i would hear often we want a 1950s-style president. all these euphemisms.
let's play something from fox news that happened wednesday. laura ingraham and some comments she's getting a lot of heat for. take a listen. >> because in some parts of the country, it does seem like the america that we know and love doesn't exist anymore. massive demographic changes have been foisted upon the american people, and they're changes that none of us ever voted for and most of us don't like. from virginia to california, we see stark examples of how radically in some ways the country has changed. now, much of this is related to both illegal and in some cases legal immigration that of course progressives love. >> she's been accused of a not-so-subtle dog whistle right there, that that was all about race and it was racist in itself. here's how laura ingraham responded to those criticisms last night. >> the purpose of last night's angle was to point out that the
rule of law, meaning secure borders, is something that used to bind our country together. and despite what some may be contending, i made explicitly clear that my commentary had nothing to do with race or ethnicity. >> michael? >> so the words "we" and "us" are doing heavy lifting in that original comment. the country that we loved. and it's the idea that all of us have been united around a sense of america that we have all shared and that's never been true. that's never been true since the inception of this country, since the indoctrination of the constitution. there have always been people who have sat at the margins of society, who have been oppressed by federal and state and local laws and customs, and so the idea of who are the we, who's the us that she's talking about. those that have been protected by the laws and customs of this country and those laws and
customs have kept people out and kept those demographic shifts from happening at different points of our history. and so she's afraid and voicing the fear of many people who think like her, who are watching her show, that essentially the america that they have come to know and love, because they are able to go off into their enclaves of all whiteness that are protected from any encroaching outsiders, that now suddenly that is under attack. that it's changing much too fast for them or changing at all and it's too much for them to handle. and so the idea that america changes, it has always been that there have been people at the margins and it's always been the case that those people at the margins have demanded a share in the american dream. and so what you have now is a backlash to many years of progress, right? like we have experienced some
notion -- if we haven't experienced progress, there have been people raising their voices. whether it's the nfl players or the people that have been in the streets since the killing of trayvon martin and the uprisings in ferguson, whether there's been people demanding reproductive rights, whether it's people demanding immigration reform, all of these people are saying the american dream has not worked for me. i would like for it to. and now you have people whose white identity is so much a part of who they are and who they know themselves to be and protects them from all of that, that they are saying we will not stand for that and we didn't get to vote for it. how do you get to vote for whether or not people are able to share the land? it goes against any of the professed principles. >> michael denzel smith, thank you very much for joining us. christine emba, thank you as well. coming up, sunday on the one-year mark of the deadly clash between protesters and
white nationalists in charlottesville, msnbc shares the story of a former white supremacist who has dedicated his life to reforming others. watch "breaking hate" sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern only on msnbc. coming up, why a federal judge threatened to hold attorney general jeff sessions in contempt of court over the deportation of a migrant mother and her daughter. you're watching msnbc. duncan just protected his family
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and yesterday the government revealed that 559 children are still separated from their parents. 365 of them have parents who have already been deported. joining me now is raul reyes, an attorney and nbcnews.com contributor. raul, thank you very much. this was a remarkable moment. >> right. >> the mother and the daughter were, as he said, spirited away in the night, put on a plane and were sent to guatemala. the judge is hearing this case. >> right. >> finds out that they're not there. he's hearing their asylum case. finds out that they're on a plane and says turn that plane around. >> right. he said this is totally unacceptable. it's important when we're talking about this case, this mother and daughter, this is the case brought by the aclu, at this point they are not even seeking to stay in this country. what they are seeking right now is the right to claim asylum, so maybe potentially to stay in the country and that's a legal right. they were very carefully screened by the aclu, which is
what nonprofits do before they bring this type of case to see that they could meet the credible fear interview, which would give them a shot to go before a judge. the big contradiction in this case is that in june, jeff sessions introduced a new policy saying that if you're fleeing gang violence or if you're a victim of domestic abuse, now you can't qualify for asylum at all. that's a contradiction with domestic law, international law and what the policy has been on the ground for years. you know, even under our federal court system, they have recognized gender-based persecution. so this is the clash that's going on. and the judge was rightfully in my view outraged that they're removing a plaintiff who not only has the legal right to claim asylum, but that right is still being challenged in court. >> as we understand it, the plane landed in guatemala, they did not get off and they are on their way back. >> right. hopefully it will go forward. but you also have to think just on the human level, this is a family, this particular case, the pseudonym for the plaintiff, her name is carmen.
she endured two decades of severe domestic abuse. they had a journey to the united states, usually very hard rowing and now they're going through this very complicated process. it's hard to imagine going through all that, and then being turn turned around. on top of being the lead plaintiff in this case. >> the president has been very anti-chain migration. he calls it chain migration. everybody else calls it family reunification. yesterday his parents-in-law, melania's parents, were in new york and they were -- they were taking their oath of citizenship. >> right. remember, just in his last state of the union, the president said that chain migration is a threat to american society. he has repeatedly called for ending it. the fact is that the american immigration lawyers association calls the term "chain migration" which we use as shorthand, they recognize it as a pejorative term. it's family unity.
it's family reunification. that's basically been the guiding principle of immigration law going back to the 1965 immigration naturalization act. so a little bit of hypocrisy there. >> a little bit? a lot of hypocrisy. a lot of hypocrisy. >> that's the first family, so i feel like i wish them well, but they are perfect example. >> it's a perfect example of the president saying there are one set of rules for me and a different set of rules for everybody else. look what he's doing with his hotel. >> the type of country that you come from. >> look at everything he sees. it's okay for me to run a hotel and make money off of it while i'm in office and the hotel has a lease with the united states government. it's okay for me to, i don't know, his son to take a meeting with the russians -- >> it's okay for him to employ undocumented workers. many things, especially around immigration. there we are. >> raul reyes, thank you very much. coming up, tech companies are taking major tense to police hate on social media. this week removing controversial
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school shooting was staged by anti-gun actors. the parents of one of the children who died during the attack recently posted an open letter saying because of this conspiracy theory, they have, quote, endured online, telephone and in-person harassment, abuse and death threats. the parents say they have even had to move, but, quote, these groups i don't say social media, including facebook, to hunt us, posting our home address and videos of our house online. we're currently living in hiding. this week itunes, facebook, spotify, youtube, even pinterest all accused jones of violating their hate speech policies. but missing from that list is twitter. ceo jack dorsey told sean hannity that his company won't shadow ban people for political ideology, viewpoint or content. for more on this, i'm joined by our own benec collins who describes his reporting on this
topic as dystopian. i'm also joined by mary mccord. so twitter is all alone on this, out on an island saying we're not going to ban them for, what did they say exactly, political ideology, viewpoint or content. political ideology that alex jones is spewing, he's lying. he's putting people's lives in danger. is it a viewpoint? it's a lie. content? i don't know. this is about as offensive and awful as it gets. >> right. what you think about here is, is this guy allowed to be grandfathered in to lying and spreading hate on these platforms other people aren't allowed to do that. if joe schmo who works at a store down the street and go tell people there's a sex ring under a pizza shop, i think twitter would ban me for that. >> what's different about alex jones? >> he's a famous guy who can
complain about this all day long. that's what he does. he has a platform and makes like millions of dollars selling supplements. this is what he does. so the difference between him and everybody else is that he has the ability to fight back, right? he has this powerful sort of service that he provides to people where he accuses a lot of people of a lot of stuff an then plays victim after it all happens. >> mary, what is the free speech argument here? >> well, there really isn't a strong free speech argument to support what alex jones has put out over infowars on various social media. false statements, particularly false statements that cause direct harm to people like the statements put out by alex jones are not entitled to the protections of the first amendment. moreover, social media companies are not the government. they're not even bound by the government. >> roger mcnamee compared this to somebody who mentored mark zuckerberg and facebook, compared alex jones to yelling
fire in a movie theater. would you say that's true, mary? >> well, that's a dramatic example, a classic example that every first-year law student learns about what kind of speech is not protected and that's the classic incitement to violence. alex jones does it a little bit differently. he spreads lies and rumors and more than innuendo that cause his followers to take action. and that action is where i think you can get the similarity to crying fire in a crowded movie theater because he has so many followers who don't really care or aren't interested to listen to what journalists such as yourself and others would have to say to try to correct the misstatements that alex jones made. his followers don't care, they don't listen. it's partly because of that very platform, twitter. it's instantaneous. the false news spreads faster than true news ever does. and then those people take the action against the victims of alex jones. >> and the way the timelines work, it's very hard to correct a tweet or clarify a tweet and
have it have the same reach as the original tweet. say you tweet something with an error in it or something that's not right and you try to delete it. that content even if it's out for a few minutes can be retweeted thousands of times if not hundreds of thousands of times and spread, regardless of the accuracy. >> yeah. >> or regardless of whether or not the person who posted it intended to put it out. >> that's true. we saw yesterday, oliver darcy at cnn put out a post that all of these people banned alex jones for and twitter said they didn't violate the same rules. but it's the same post and same stuff up for years saying sandy hook is a hoax. these people, like the sandy hook parents, they can't visit their kids' graves. think about that. it's not normal stuff here that these people have to go through because this guy is applying a harassment campaign under the idea of this free speech guise.
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done and so you lump a number of things into one bill at the end just to make sure you get it done. the governor's office declined to comment. minnesota's secretary of state steve sign man repeatedly pressed lawmakers to approve the funding but to no avail. steve sign man joins us now. secretary, thank you very much for being here. so, the republicans put this in a spending bill. the governor vetoed that spending bill. what is going on? you'd think that election security, especially since this was a state that was attacked in 2016, targeted in 2016, that this would be a priority in and of itself regardless of anything else. >> yes. first of all, good to be with you. i wish it was under better circumstances. this is a real shame and an avoidable shame. i was in the legislature for ten years and i can tell you this would have taken ten minutes on the floor of the minnesota house or the minnesota senate. would have been a layup, would have been a slam dunk.
instead the legislature chose the needlessly hard and complicated way to get this done. they base dli gave this provision a seat on the titanic, on a bill they knew was going down. that's a shame. minnesota was one of the 21 states targeted by the russian government. in 2016 we passed that test. we kept the bad guys out, but this is a race without a finish line. there is no end zone where you get to spike the football. there is no tape you get to cross. the number one threat to the integrity of our election system in minnesota and nationally is the danger of some sort of cyberattack by outside forces trying to undermine our democracy. so when we get this gift from the federal government, almost $7 million for this exact purpose, you'd think that the legislature would jump immediately and pass this by any means necessary and they didn't do that. >> i'm confused, though. why didn't they? this is a republican-controlled legislature. again, it was -- the spending bill was vetoed by the democrat in the governor's office. why did they not make this separate? >> well, they are better
spokespeople for themselves than i am for them. but i can just tell you i'm profoundly disappointed and ashamed for minnesota. >> we were told they didn't have enough time. >> i'm sorry, that's bufrnk. as i said, i served in the legislature ten years, i was in the house. there was plenty of time to get this done. i don't know what was going through their heads at the time. we need this money. you know, the good news is we're in good shape. i believe in the old saying you have to dig your well before you're thirsty. we did that starting in 2015, a year before the election and we hardened our cyber security and defenses. we're in good shape, we have new elections committee -- equipment through the legislature and that's good. this money, though, would have gone a long way towards making me feel even better than i do right now where we are. it's a missed opportunity and it was totally, totally avoidable. >> quick question. they said they can use their own money if they need and they will be reimbursed. any chance of doing that? >> we are reaching out to some outside folks to help us with some of that money. we don't have that money just laying around and sitting around
so we're hoping through nonprofit support we can front some of that money now. but again, we were really relying on a chunk of this money at least 1 1/2 million of it to further harden and secure our election systems particularly the database that we run out of our office that is the spieb of the system and that was the subject of an attack in states like illinois. we want to be extra cautious and we hope we'll get that money sooner rather than later. we have to put country over party. >> steve simon, thank you very much. we appreciate it. we'll be right back. >> thank you. arthritis. because there are options. like an "unjection™". xeljanz xr. a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma and other cancers have happened. don't start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. tears in the stomach or intestines,
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trump's fixer in congress and the american people can judge for themselves, because they have now heard it for themselves. >> he is saying it is his job and the republican's job to clear the president. and some people have said, look, this is a part san politician making a partisan speech at a fund r fund-raiser and to that, what do you say? >> well, america was attacked by russia. they did not attack us to just screw around or test software. they attacked the idea of america that if you are working hard here, you can make it anywhere here. they want to undermine that so that the idea does not go to russia, so you think that democrats and republicans would unite as an antedote, and every time we need devin nunes, he has chosen not to. and now the voters in 89 days have an opportunity with a new prosecutor to go in a different direction and make it not about politics, but about us, and our
country and our democracy. >> if it were a democratic president, there were people who felt the same way to protect their democratic president -- >> well, i hope not, anderson. >> but congress is to be a check and balance on the exec executive branch. and ted liu said that he should resign for perverting the oath that he took. >> i think that paul ryan, speaker ryan should remove devin nunes from being the chairperson, but he should not resign. that is on the constituents, and if they also believe that we have a duty to proetect our country above anyone else, they should vote him out on november 6th. i hope they do. they have a strong candidate who i think that will work in a bipartisan way, andrew jans who is going to hope it does not happen again. >> and you saw our reporter trying to get a statement from devin nunes has been trying to get a statement from paul ryan and radio silence. should the house leadership condemn these comments in your opinion? you said that he should take him
off of the committee. >> paul ryan should condemn this, because this goes to the corruption that donald trump promised americans he would clean up. when i go across the country or talk to my own constituents, they are concerned about their health care and paychecks and concerned that nothing is solved in washington, because it is all about power and corruption. if we want to show the american people that is not what washington is about, and that they are empowered, we need to get rid of the corrupt chair ma to do everything he can to protect a president under invest gamt. that is something that paul ryan could do right now. >> you really believe that he is corrupt? >> i think that he has been corrupted with power, and he believes that his job is to protect president trump. our country suffers because of that, and anderson, because the house intelligence chairman cannot show unity and protect us from future russian attack the, as we speak, the russians are attacking us, and they are not afraid of us. they believe that devin nunes
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shocking -- look, i'm not surprised, because devin nunes is as intelligent as a warm bucket of spit, but he did nit n a room where there could be a recording device. so he did it where someone is inornd naordinantly corrupt, an aiding and abetting russian attacks on the country. >> and ken, it is really the cabinet's job to clear the president? >> not the clear him sh, no. but he is come to the conclusion quite publicly that there wasn't collusion. that is different from the russian attacks on the election and you heard the congressman before us conflate the two, and jump from one to the other quite smoothly and the president quite fr frankly messes himself up between the two. there is a difference between the two and what devin nunes is doing inelegantly, and he is out
to say, elect me to impeach the president, and you have one of the biggest donors tom stir funding that program, and so this is an element of the campaign this year. it is an element of the campaign and whether it should be or not, and i think not, it is on both sides of the aisle. one side wants their selling impeaching the president, and the other side is selling protecting the president from impeachment, and that is the reality of this e leng shun and it is -- election and it is not n new. >> rick? >> i want to say this clearly, ken. devin nunes did not come to the conclusion that there was no collusion with russia or conspiracy to engage with russia. he has simply said that he is going to stop any investigation that could lead to the that. we are never with going to find out if we have devin nunes in charge of this, and this is the proverbial fox in the henhouse problem, and nunes has stated
over and over again, you know, that he is caught up with these wild claims of unmasking, and the secret reports that he has use and complete nonentities and nothing burgers of the worst kind and now we see the secret agenda underneath all of the theater that he has been engaged in, and that agenda -- >> secret? >> to protect the donald trump presidency no matter what. that is not his job as a sworn member of congress. they swear to uphold the constitution and a co-equal branch of government, and you know, that ken. they are a co-equal branch of government and they are not a bunch of junior managers at a trump golf club trying to make the boss happy. >> look. devin nunes can easily and he appears to the believe that he is doing both of those things. he of course has not said what you just said that he said. he has said that the president hasn't colluded with the russians, and this is his conclusion, and you may not agree with that conclusion, and
you are waiting for actual evidence to show up of it. >> i have evidence. why would we want that. >> and then of course, the continuing rhetorical problem of people on both sides of the aisle that conflate the russian involvement in our elections, plural, and the question of collusion of which there is none. >> and ken, the president himself continues to call the mueller investigation a witch hunt. >> and there is no evidence of that. >> and ken, as you point out -- >> and the president -- >> ken, as you pointed out -- >> can i finish -- >> no, because you pointed out that the president -- >> impeeachment is a political undertaking. >> ken, as you point out. >> and the constitution, and if you keep going, i want to ask you this question. the president continues to call the mueller investigation a witch hunt. he is not talk about the allegation of collusion, but he is talking about the entire thing as a witch hunt. devin nunes in that tape says that if sessions doesn't
unrecuse himself, if mueller won't clear the president, it is up to house republicans. that is not sounding like a co-equal branch of government. >> that is the conclusion that he has come to. >> and he has done that insofar as he has the authority do that -- >> and what about -- >> well, that is not completely true. there isis overlapping evidence that the mueller folks have. >> and he has not seen all of the evidence -- >> we are further down the road than in watergate, and still no evidence of collusion, and that is because there wasn't collusi collusion. there was involvement by the russians in the election, but it is not collusion. >> and so you are saying that based on and you have seen the mueller evidence? >> no, i have seen what you have seen, anderson. let's not get trif yal about this. >> and so you don't know. >> and the double standard in 2012 when we had a president lean over to say to the president of russia, hey, let's
deal differently before the election, and when we get past my election, i will go easy on you, that is what president obama said on a hot mike. >> ken, i will see you and raise you with the president in the oval office with the russian spy. >> that is actual collusion. >> i will see you and raise you the president of the united states in the oval office with a russian spy and russian ambassador to say that i fired comey to get the pressure of russia off of me and the president whose son met with and if you are bringing me what i think it is, i love it met with the representatives of the russian government and then lied about that meeting persistently, and in fact, the president of the united states wrote a statement and helped to write a statement lying about that meeting to cover up the conspiracy or the conclusion, and people ha -- collusion, and we have a lot more trail to go down what the mueller investigation is gathering, and what you have seen with this recording of devin nunes, he does not care. and devin nunes can have a
videotape of vladimir putin handing trump a bag of cash and he would say, no, we have to protect the president, and we have to get the deputy attorney general fired so that we can have our people short circuit the president's relationships with russia and the investigation of the interference which is part and parcel of the president's team colluding with russia in this election. >> ken, i want you the respond and then we have to go. >> this is not appearing to be where you end up, and then where you start. you heard the book title. i am a truth seeker, and i have litigated in the fisa course, and the unmasking is a serious deal to me. there is no collusion here. >> you can't say that, because you have not seen the evidence. you said that you care about what happened in court -- >> anderson, i have answered that question. asked and answered, your honor. >> and you have not seen -- >> but i said, what we have seen
is more time than spent in watergate is no evidence yet, and you don't have any either, and you are describing the -- >> we don't have the evidence, but we should as americans all wit for the investigation to conclude and as a court off z i assume that you believe the same thing. >> yes, and i believe that all of the information they need is available at this point. what else is there to get? >> thank you, rick and ken. we requested devin nunes of course tonight, but he did not respond to the request. and what may be happening with paul manafort's previous partnership. and why the citizenship of the first lady's parents, and how they acquired it. ookus. to take care of any messy situations. and put irritation in its place. and if i can get comfortable
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that in fact, the focus of this investigation beyond the manafort trial and the question of russian interference and whether the trump campaign cooperated with the russian interference is still an open investigation. there was testimony on tuesday where rick gates, of course s, former deputy campaign chairman for the trump campaign was questioned about the interviews more than 20 interviews with the special counsel. the prosecutor here said that he banted the -- wanted the testimony kept secret, because that relates to an ongoing criminal investigation in his words. the two the lines of the investigation that the special counsel are looking at is manafort's financial crimes as we have been following here in the last few days in court can, but also russian interference and any cooperation from the trump campaign. by the prosecutor saying there that it is part of the ongoing criminal investigation, you get the indication that this line of inquiry at least is not closed, anderson.
>> that is fascinating. also clashes between the prosecutors and the judge in the case. the judge at one point admitting that he was wrong. what ems tid d-- what else did e say? >> that is interesting things in the trial. the judge chastised the pr prosecutor almost like a tool teacher telling him to look him in the eye and give a yes answer instead of yeah answer, but there was a moment yesterday where the judge disputed the prosecution's ability to keep an expert witness inside the courtroom, in this case, a former irs agent and expert tax witness. of course, the crimes alleged here involve tax evasion. the prosecutor said, wait a second, judge, you approved this decision earlier, just look at the transcript. lo and behold they looked at the transcript and the judge did in fact approve that. today, a bit of mea culpa from the judge, i did say that was okay, my fault, my bad. >> thanks very much. a happy moment for first
lady melania trump as her parents were granted citizenship today, the parents of melania trump. obviously what is a big day for her and her parent is drawing attention to the president's controversial calls to end the immigration policy that brought them here. according to a source with direct knowledge, she did what many children do, sponsored her parents' green cards. this is what the president is trying to eliminate. he calls it chain migration. under the current broken system, a single immigrant can bring in virtually unlimited numbers of distant relatives. >> we want to get rid of chain migration. ending chain migration. >> ending chain migration. >> you have chain migration. this is a schumer deal. schumer wanted this. >> we have to get rid of chain migration, all of these things we're talking about. >> a guy comes in and then you have to bring his aunt, his uncle, his father, his grandfather, his grandson. >> a total desires that
threatens our security and economy. >> his third niece by a different marriage. >> provides a gateway for terrorism. >> they think it is good politically, but i will tell you that i think it is horrible politically, and what do i know? i did become president in like a year and a half. the first in-law's attorney calls it family reunification, not immigration and bedrock policy. the first lady's office declined to comment. what can you tell us about the process the first lady's parents went through to become citizens? >> we're learning how melania trump's parents came to this country and became citizens earlier today. it was in fact the first lady who sponsored her parents for their green card. to be clear, and you made clear, this is not out of the ordinary, a way many americans bring their family members to this country. the first lady's parents are
from slovenia. we've seen them around washington, d.c., and sometimes travel with the president and first lady. up until this point we didn't have clarity how they had gotten their green cards, turns out the first lady took advantage of the family migration policy like so many others do in this country so her parents could settle down here. >> all in contrast from the president's personal position. has the white house had anything to say about the disconnect? >> it's incredibly noteworthy melania did this for her parents and a practice her husband does not like. we heard president trump, you just played a great clip there, rail against the family migration policy many many times, refers to it as chain migration. that particular part of family visa is a category trump wants to get rid of all together because he says they are harmful to this country. the first lady's office is not commenting on any of this, however, we do have a statement
from victor and his wife's immigration lawyer, he told me earlier today, i can't comment on the president's politics when it comes to my clients but i have stood up against the president's emigration policies personally. you're seeing a disconnect between the president's policy views and the fact his wife has taken advantage of that policy for her parents. >> a source close to the white house tells cnn president trump is scheduled to have dinner with his personal attorney, rudy giuliani, in the middle of the going back and forth whether the president will agree to be interviewed by the special couns counsel. we will have more on that. (phone ping)
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giuliani are having dinner tonight in new jersey. they will have a lot to discuss with the negotiations of a possible interview with the president and robert mueller, in addition to the fact that they have and joining me is allan desh show wits and cnn legal analyst carykor can dare ra. and that the mueller team limited the areas of questioning what they fear a perjury trap. joining me, alan dershowitz, author of the case against impeaching trump -- impeaching trump. >> what do you think the president talks about what he calls a perjury trap. can you picture mueller agreeing to that? >> i can't. the strategy has been for guiliani to make mueller an offer he can't accept to paraphrase the godfather. trump says he wants to testify.
all his lawyers are unanimous saying he couldn't testify. the end result making mueller an offer he can't accept, mueller to be the one that turns down the deal. trump says, i wanted to talk to mueller. it was mueller's fault and he didn't accept a reasonable offer from my lawyers and we're off to subpoena land. >> isn't the easiest way to avoid the perjury trap is to tell the truth? >> that is correct. part of the issue is whether or not the president really intends to testify, or be interviewed voluntarily by the special counsel's office. if he doesn't really want to be interviewed, which the longer this has dragged out, it appears to be, then the strategy that alan just described, i think is accurate, they're really just playing game, more for pr purposes, to make it appear that he wants to be cooperative, when, really, what they want is just to drag it out and force the special counsel to issue a subpoena. the allegation that it is a perjury trap really is silly because if the president had a story that we wanted to tell there would be no risk of per
-- perjurying himself. >> professor, let me ask you about the perjury. >> sure. >> if the president has, as he insists nothing to hide and done nothing wrong, why all this brinksmanship. it's not the american public's fault that the president had a disconnect from the truth. >> first of all, no lawyer ever puts the interest of the united states above the interests of his country. there was a famous barrister in 1815 who said, i have to put the interests of my client over the interests of the country. a lot of other people put the interests of the country first. first, let me explain why every lawyer you ask, every defense lawyer would give you the same answer he would be walking into a perjury trap. let's assume he was asked one question, did you know about the meeting in the trump tower with your son? let's assume he honestly didn't know and answers that honestly, no, i didn't know. one witness says he did know.
that witness is cohen. cohen may be lying. at that point, the perjury trap has been sprung and mueller could theoretically charge him with pernjury for telling the truth. so you never advice a client to answer a question truthfully if there is another person who will answer the question differently and that person may be believed by the prosecutor and that is what we mean by a perjury trap. >> does that seem viable? first, you're referencing michael cohen who said there were other people present in the room. if there's not actual documentation, why would the prosecution decide to side with michael cohen who has lied about other stuff? >> well, first of all, we don't know first of all whether michael cohen has been interviewed in any way. using michael cohen as an example doesn't comport with using someone interviewed under oath or in front of
investigative agents or before the grand jury. the bigger point is that if the president had a story he wanted to tell, then they would want to submit to a voluntary interview. most criminal defendants, i agree, criminal defendants or criminal subjects i should say, excuse me, would not want to be interviewed voluntarily. they would be interviewed pursuant to a subpoena or they would be requested to come in before the grand jury. so i think that the president's legal advice is consistent with what most subjects of an investigation would do, and difference is that he is the president of the united states, and publicly, his team has said that there is no reason that he should not be able to tell his side of the story. >> professor dershowitz, for guiliani to say if this isn't over by december 1st, this would be in violation of the rules. there actually isn't a rule. customary but not codified
anywhere. do you agree that the former u.s. attorney giuliani is over his skis about this? >> no, i don't think so. one thing mueller doesn't want to become is comey and doesn't want to be accused of influencing the election. i'm told mueller was furious at comey when comey did what he did before the election last time, even though they're close friends. to the last thing he wants to do is be accused of having any influence on the midterms. >> thanks so much. i want to give you a quick update on a story we've been following, 11 months after hurricane maria devastated the island of puerto rico, the death toll was 64, but now the government of puerto rico is admitting that it may be closer to 1,400. cnn had to sue the government to get the statistics. according to researchers who took part in a study by harvard and other schools the puerto rican government was less than helpful providing access to their stats.
documents show 1,427 more deaths than normal occurred after the storm ended in 2017. officials say that's only an estimate and haven't officially updated the death toll. the study of harvard and others had shown the deaths could be higher than the 1400 figure and the president praised the federal response to hurricane maria. the president also h figures in this story. the national park service said it received a permit nor the group, called unite the right, to stage a rally across the street from the white house. it comes a year after a rally left one counter-protester dead. the speakers will include the organizer of that rally along with the grand wizard, kkk, david duke, who is the subject of spike lee's new movie.
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it is a true story. and spike lee is on the cover of "time" magazine and happy he is with me. that's your first cover on "time" magazine? >> ever. >> i would have expected three or four by now. >> no. >> i have to ask you about your t-shirt. god protect robert mueller. did you make that yourself? >> no. but -- there's a history in this country, so i just hope god puts his hands on him and he gets to do what he has to do, to the end. >> i want to ask you about this film. i went to see it a couple of months ago actually. it's a period film in the '70s. have you ever heard of this story before? >> no. >> explain. >> i was called out of the blue sky, i have a project for you. what is it? in six words, he pitched it, black man infiltrates the kkk.
>> were you in? >> i'm in. is it true? it's true. automatically i thought the great david chappell. >> very briefly, this is an african-american police officer, and the first african-american police officer on this the police force. >> colorado springs. >> and he sees an ad in the newspaper for the kkk and calls them up and starting talking to them. >> no. he left a message. >> he left a message. >> he left his name. they call him back. so the premise is that he needs a white -- to play him in person. that's adam driver. >> right. >> it's set in the '70s. >> '70s. >> i mean, it's so evocative of that time. it is so timely today. >> yes. that's the thing that blows you away when you're sitting there watching this. >> that was the plan. with my co-writer, we did not want this to just be a history lesson, even though it took
place in the '70s, we still wanted it contemporary. a lot of things, phrases and things that were said way before the '70s and you will hear them today, and the lexicon of the politics and the guys in office. >> it is one of the things that is so startling about the film is that we like to think about we have ele volved and things change and, it is, you know, things -- this doesn't go away. the questions have raised the divisions, it doesn't go away. >> well, i've been on this show many years talking about the same thing. the thing -- i know i might be giving a spoiler alert. i was in martha's vineyard august 12th. i watched what i feel is homegrown american red, white and blue terrorism. >> you are talking about last
year in charlottesville. >> august 12th. and my house is at the 18th hole. i knew they were coming because i saw the secret service in the trees at 18 holes. he's on the golf course, turns his phone off and just relaxed. when i told him he hadn't heard about it. >> you went up to him and told him? >> he hadn't heard about it. >> what did you say to him? >> i don't remember exactly. i don't want to give the whole thing, i want to tell this -- i thought he heard, he didn't hear about it. the film "black panthers" opening on the one year anniversary of charlottesville. >> that was intentional? that was important to you? >> very much so. what happened there -- here's the thing for me, the president of the united states had a chance to denounce hate. hate groups.
the whole world saw what happened and he didn't do it. >> there's good people on both sides. that friday night -- the tiki torch rally, to go to the robert e. lee statute. these were young white males, hundreds of them, this is in the vice video chanting "jews will not replace us, blood and soil will not be the slogan." they're not wearing masks. >> left and right. >> does it -- did it surprise even you? you focused on -- you've done so many films about race and race in america, did that even surprise you, though, how blatant it was? >> no. you know why? because this guy we've got in the white house is not even a dog whistle, it's a bullhorn.
then, also, anderson, we've seen a rise to the right. it's not just america, it's worldwide. this thing has happened worldwide. >> one of the things lebron james said in that interview with don lemon the other night, he believes the president has created an environment people who hold toxic racist views feel more empowered to give voice to them. >> they have the green light from the white house. >> you think it filters down from the top that way. >> the top runs koun. all mexicans are rapists, and we would be here three hours with the research of the hateful statements that he has said. >> what do you hope people get from the film? >> i'm very leery of providing takeaways. i respect the audience intelligence too much. i think if we just look at this film and the ending, we've got to do better. we've got to do better. >> i'm not going to say what the
ending of the film is. >> ends in charlottesville. >> the theater i was watching it in, you could have heard a pin drop afterward, the impact. >> that's one of the things we want to do, connect the past to the present. i'd like to say at this time god bless susan, who is coming up on the anniversary of the loss of her daughter again, and a terrible act of american terrorism. she no longer has a daughter because of that. >> we'll be talking to her tomorrow. you have kids. do you have these conversations? >> oh, yes, we do. because i had these conversations with my parents. one of my most -- it's not a
fond memory, but april 1968, in front of my stoop in brooklyn, new york, i hear a woman screaming. screaming at the top of her lungs. and then, as the voice gets closer, that sounds like my mother. and then, as she got closer, she was screaming, they murdered dr. king, they murdered dr. king. so, i'm 61. so i was -- that was a sweet spot. i was young enough to see everything and not old enough to go to vietnam. it was all the turbulence of '60s and '70s, right there in brooklyn, taking it all in. >> would you want to sit down with donald trump? >> no. >> have a conversation? >> i don't use his name either. agent orange. got it from busta rhymes, shout-out to brooklyn, busta. >> do you consider him your president?
>> no. might be putin. >> so what -- what -- >> you look kind of shook, anderson. >> no -- i find the movie -- i was shaken by the film. >> thank you very much. when i thought of it as a period piece, oh, it's a look back. it's so -- there's such relevant things -- >> that's what people responded to, it's not just a history lesson, even though it takes place in the '70s, it's also the world we live in, the topsy-turvy crazy insane world that we are living in today. >> spike lee, it is always good to talk to you. appreciate it. >> thank you, thank you. i want to check in with chris and see what he is working on with "cuomo primetime" at the
top of the hour. >> listening to you is what i'm doing, talking to spike. i think you do the right thing when you confront the conversations, anderson. they're not easy to have. obviously they're not even easy for us to have sometimes. but we have to talk about what is real in this country because we're seeing what happens when you don't. it winds up getting harnessed and weaponized anyway. the same issues wind up getting used. the film is important. the anniversary coming up is important. and god forbid that this stupid idea of having yet another set of unify the -- whatever they're called with these demonstrations they want to have to mark this anniversary. we'll be watching it. we're going to be talking about it tonight as well. and we're going to be testing power tonight. everybody's talking about kris kobach, the secretary of state of kansas. trump made that governor's primary for the gop into an entire different echelon of election by getting involved. these on our show tonight, and he's got a lot for us to ask him about. so we'll have the show with him tonight. we're also going to take to take you through the reality of what's going on in puerto rico and what the president owes the
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house are asking the president to immediately grant the request because of the catastrophic scope of the destructive wildfires. it includes the mendocino complex fire which as of this morning had burned 304,000 acres. it's the largest fire in the history of california. joining me now is congressman mike thompson. thanks for being with us. i am sorry it is under these circumstances. the president has declared a state of emergency in california. you're urging him to do more, declare a major disaster declaration. can you just explain what that distinction means and how it would help fighting these fires. >> well, thank you, anderson. in my district -- and you nailed it. over 300,000 acres burning in that mendocino complex fire. we've had good support from the federal government. the local assistance grants from the federal government have been there to help us fight the fire. but we also need help in addressing all the problems associated with it. the public assistance, the shared financial responsibility
between the state, local, and federal government, and the individual assistance that will allow people to get the help they need to rebuild their home and to get back in their home. this is -- this is just a terrible situation, and in my county of lake, this is the fourth year in a row that we've had major forest fires. and people are devastated by this, and we really need the president to declare the disaster and to be forthcoming with all the federal resources that we can muster. >> i know you and other lawmakers sent the letter to the president two days ago. have you heard anything back as of yet on it? >> i've been in contact with fema. we've been in contact with the white house. it's running its course. but the president could do a world of good by stepping it up and making the declaration now. there's a lot of lives depending upon this. it would make life much easier in these devastated areas.
and folks really need the security of knowing that their federal government's with them. >> you know, one of the things the president has said about this, and i'm wondering how concerned, if you were concerned, about what the president tweeted several days ago, that it was a lack of water is to blame for the difficulty in containing the fires because every fire official i've talked to said that's simply not the case. it's not a problem of water. >> well, we have the water that we need, and i'd really like the president and everybody else to stop tweeting and focus on the disaster at hand. folks need help. people need help. our communities need help. and that's what we should be focusing on. >> in terms of your own district, constituents, how are they doing tonight? >> well, they're doing a little better. people are repopulating their homes. but we still have a fire that is not contained. it won't be contained for another month.
it's burning, and we have red flag warnings again tonight. and this could exacerbate the situation. and today we had another fire break out in another part of my district in napa. so this is an ongoing threat. the fuel load is very, very heavy. resources are stretched. we've got so many firefighters, so many aircraft and pieces of equipment out there. we really can't -- we really can't sustain a lot of this. we need the help from the federal government. the people that i represent want to know that their federal government is with them and will be with them through this terrible time. >> certainly our thoughts and prayers are with not only everybody affected by this fire but all the men and women on the fire line who are working around the clock. i know your son is a firefighter who could be drawn up to deliver mutual aid if necessary. i mean the firefighters just don't get enough credit, and it's extraordinary what they're doing, just working around the clock.
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sunday in washington d.c. >> closely following the terrible events in charlottesville, virginia. we condemn this egregious display of hatred and bigotry and violence on many sides. >> i think there is blame on both sides. >> in his decision this morning to once again get into the culture war by attacking mostly black athletes for kneeling. trump writing the nfl players are at it again taking a knee when they should be stands proudly for the national anthem. he added be happy, be cool, a football game that fans are
paying so much to watch and enjoy, is no place to protest. stand proudly or be suspended from playing. kenny stills wrote we were not protesting the national anthem, we were actively working to create. i am joined by ashley parker, eugene scott. thanks to all of you for being with us. ashley, let me start on the question of the president, this is not the first time we have seen this choosing to go on twitter and choosing to rile everybody up. there is that new policy, that dispute. there is kneeling again taking place. he is choosing to respond to it.
take us, in terms through what it sees as its political arsenal, where does the white house see this issue of kneeling? >> in a little bit, you have to separate the president from the white house. on the one hand he is reactive and responding to something he saw with the nfl players again as the season starts up. this is something he has talked to aides and confidants about. he thinks these fights, cultural wedge issues, especially taking on the nfl, mentioning the nfl players by name. he thinks this is a good fight for him. he thinks this is something he could win. he enjoyed wading into. he is choosing and it is intentional. he believes this is a political upside. >> eugene, if this is something that trump looks at and thinks
it is going to fire up his base, is there a counter effect. does it fire up the other side? >> it probably does. the president, when he weighs into these racially charged issues, and doing it now at the time of the anniversary of charlottesville, it makes folks remember and see that this is a kind of cynical very cynical political ploy on his part to try to, you know, it is a wedge issue to him. and i don't think it is anything more than that. and it will rile up people on the other side. >> there is a "washington post" kaiser foundation poll from the spring, 53% of americans say it is never appropriate to kneel during the national anthem.
42% say it is sometimes appropriate. david, how do you read those numbers? on the one hand, i think that number has fallen. i think it was over 60% the folks were saying over a year ago saying it is never appropriate. so i wonder do some of those outside of trump's base who say never appropriate, how does these comments from him lay as a cynical racially charged. >> a majority of people suggest you should stand for the national anthem. and there is a leadership component. the reality is those who kneel are doing so out of patriotism not pushing back against patriotism. and to eugene's point, doing it
on the anniversary of charlottesville that can't be overlooked. the president will never be able to get away from. similar to bush 43 standing by his fema director. donald trump can never escape the person he was during the events of charlottesville and without trying to escape it, he was doubling down in these culture wars. he was wrong. it is a failure of leadership. if you tell the american people, god bless you for wanting to stand for the national anthem, but part of what this nation was standing about it, are those questions. not to admonish and criticize those who choose to kneel. >> a.c., you investigated the white supremacist and neo-nazi
involved in that 2017 charlottesville rally. >> over time it is in the last year, couple of years, i have seen this whole white supremacy thing become more embolden. >> just in the last couple of years? >> yeah, more active in my career. >> in almost 30 years. >> yeah. you would see a mainstream that you wouldn't expect. college kids become embolden in this movement. >> it worries me a lot. i am concerned. i am afraid charlottesville can happen again and be a lot worst. >> i think everybody remember, it was this friday night a year ago where they had that rally and the folks with the torches, everybody saw that kick off last weekend. and those were the people donald trump was referring to, good people on both sides. tell us what you learned about
the white supremacist who were there. and where they are coming from and what is motivating them and where they stand in society. surprises there in terms of the status maybe these people have? >> yeah. i think when people think about white supremacist, they think about the earlier generation, the klan, the neo-nazis, the militia movement. the current generation is different. almost all young men under 30. well off or affluent college educated. people think these guys are not very bright, a bunch of red necks and that is wrong. these are sophisticated young men, intelligent and able to manipulate media and social media in ways that their predecessors could never dream of. >> when we look back
acharlottesvil at charlottesville a year later, any sense the president drawing lessons on that. does he look back a year later and take anything from it? >> a few inflection points in his presidency or campaign. one was access hollywood. but in charlottesville it is a low point in his presidency in that moment, but no one resigned over it in the white house and he got through it and one of the lessons that was not new to charlottesville but comes in a lot of low moments where the rez seems to recover, is that he will recover and nothing matters for that long. these are blips and things that he has to hunker down. this is a president who continues to defy gravity.
and he may do that in the future. >> it is not the first time with donald trump as a candidate or president, but i think donald trump around this time approval rating was in the mid to high 30s. it is a couple of ticks higher, what do you make of that. >> there obviously is nothing that you or i can imagine that donald trump could do that would cause his base to tell pollsters they are abandoning him. jooe overwhelming support of republicans.
he will need more than that to get re-elected and he loses people on the fringes, people who cannot stomach the racism and the division and the anger and so i think he does pay a price but not with the core base. >> david jolly, longer term, maybe this presidency goes two more years, maybe it goes four more after that, we will see what the election holds. but long-term, the republican party has taken a turn here with donald trump to obviously a different style of politics. the demographic coalition at least going after blue-collar white voters that put him over the top in 2013. is it going to keep following this road or when trump goes away, this goes away? >> everybody is wondering what comes next and be the consequences could be tragic. to ashley's point that this
generations. >> when you think about this, eugene, he is the same guy 30, 40 years ago, here is one thing where there is a difference, 18 years ago donald trump ran for the reform party nomination. pat buchanan was being egged on by donald duke. he would leave the reform party and did not want to be associated with it. david duke was at this rally. he has changed on his posture toward this david duke element. look at the hard edge, the bitterness and the anger, racial
anger. he gives, by this, he gives permission for the expression of just sort of flat out racist statements that would not have heard ten years ago and would have been rejected by any previous president that i can think of going back to woodrow wilson. republican or democrat. and trump encourages it and brings it out into the sunshine and i think the party will pay a price, the country is paying a price. >> thank you all for joining us. and be sure to tune in on sunday. msnbc, "breaking hate," 9:00 p.m. sunday night. on monday, chris will be back and sit down with omarosa talking about her new book
"unhinged." coming up, rick gates copped a plea. the mueller team is not done with him. what role is he playing in the russia probe. next, chris matthews talked to professor about race in america. and who the voters think is scarier, donald trump or nancy pelosi. kris kobach says he is going it recuse himself from the vote count. and finally the roundtable will be here and tell me something i don't know. this is "hardball" where the action is. (phone ping) gentlemen, i have just received word! the louisiana purchase, is complete! instant purchase notifications from capital one.
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listening. if they are hearing president trump say it is a witch hunt, if that is what they are thinking then this is more fodder for them. what the lawyers should have asked, are you getting more benefit providing information. >> you think the case might be in trouble here. >> i think so. >> do you agree with that? >> well no question that the judge has meddled in this case. rick gates, he has been tarnished and questionable about his own ethics and integrity. can people trust him. but the level of evidence is substantial. yeah, you have concern, but i am not sure that he is not going to be convicted. the government has a good conviction record in general. >> president trump, his personal
attorneys jay sekulow and rudy giuliani discussing ways that trump could be in a perjury trap. >> you have one witness who says this is what happened and then another witness that recalls, oh no, that's not how i recall it. >> flynn is the example. no crime, if it had been said, the president says, go easy on him. >> when the president says you know. >> he didn't say stop it. don't do it. so no crime. however, it didn't take place according to the president. according to comey it did. >> of course if it did, it wouldn't have mattered but you are right. >> according to the "daily beast," trump's lawyers are fighting the case in a public.
it is fascinating to see. other investigations involving presidents having the two lawyers on the radio going back and forth. what do you make of it what giuliani is up to. is it effective in the court of public opinion? >> we will see. that is what nixon did in watergate. a pr. they knew the facts were against him. there is no question, the president of the united states is a bit of a wimp. a lot of a wimp. saying i want to talk, but in fact he doesn't want to talk. it is not just a perjury trap. whether it it s attacking the manafort trial. mueller right now has had two
major indictments against more than 30 russians involved in what he claims is information war against the united states. are we going to shut down the investigation if there are other spies out there? i mean what is the president doing? what side is he on? is he on the side of the people of the united states or on his side? clear that he is on his side. >> take us through that from a lawyer's standpoint. how real is that when prosecutors get to sit down with someone they are interested in. is it something that lawyers on the other side should be worried about? >> absolutely, trump is dying to say to mueller you are fired. but this isn't the apprentice. giuliani has an ethical responsibility to defend his client in the court of public
opinion. the issue for giuliani as a lawyer is delay, delay. he knows you can't put president trump in an interview with mueller. the history shows that there is too many inconsistencies with president trump. >> and that tendency on trump's part that keeps talking, keeps talking and goes in circles and not sure what is going to come out. >> mueller has the power of subpoena here. if he keeps drawing out this matter giuliani, and delay, delay, we are going to be up to the midterm elections. what are the american people going to think if the president of the united states doesn't come forward and testify. >> do you think mueller needs to complete this investigation, does he need to sit town widown trump? >> he wants the president to come down and explain his point
of view. but this is like nixon and the tapes. why was nixon fighting the release of tapes that would prove him innocent. why is trump refusing to testify if he is innocent. >> if giuliani says no, do you think there is a subpoena? >> very well could be the subpoena. this is a president who doesn't want to tell the truth, who is afraid of the prosecutors and has something to hide. >> quickly, do you think there could be a subpoena? >> no. there is a long standing doj policy of a subpoena and a sitting president. while i agree with you, what do you think about a president, what people may think, his base won't really care. >> we walked up to the line with that subpoena in bill clinton back in 1998. and we will see how this goes, thank you both for being with
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in washington. that protest renewed discussions on the state of race relations on the country. chris matthews spoke about that to michael dyson let's watch. >> what is the but. >> the but is there is a persistent of malignant -- black people can't go to starbucks, can't do barbecues in the park. now that sounds minimal to many people, but it means micro aggressions, race and bigotry in bite size form means that we are not welcome in america.
unarmed black people are still being gunned down in the country. president obama as the first african american president, he was at the top of the pyramid but the rest of the pyramid has been attacked by resentment. if barack obama was not acknowledged as a human being by some people, if the birtherism could take hold in this exquisite human being, what more for the black people who don't have anyone to protect them or -- it didn't just gesture toward the masses of black people who continued to confront in this country racial bigotry and racial resistment. >> african americans were among
the first. how do you get that in people's heads and hearts that they preceded people like me. irish and english. we know we come from immigrant stock. when are people going to say, yeah, they were here before most of us. >> that is a great point. in my book, i talk about that conversation between bobby kennedy and james baldwin. and at one point bobby kennedy says look, hold on for hope because one day, like us, we already produced a president. it went over like a brick cloud. jimmy baldwin said that is a problem. i have been here for five or six generations. until people acknowledge that
black people are entrenched and deeply rooted in america. i am from detroit michigan i didn't come from anywhere else but this nation. and many people don't acknowledge this. >> let me ask you about politics that is my beat. i am looking at the 2020 thing. look at the ones roaring to run. kamela harris seems to be out there. cory booker seems to be out there. what do you make, of course bernie, i think bernie sanders is running again, and elizabeth warren. do you think it is essential because the democrats, have to have room on that ticket for a person of color. what do you think? >> when you look at kamela harris or senator booker or
governor patrick, or attorney general holder, rumored he is going to run as well. when you look at that all-star line up, no doubt they are qualified and given the base of drats in this country, black people have been among the loyal constituents. a lot of black and brown people are there. look at what happened in new york with the unseating of joe crowley. a rising tide of black and brown political figures demanding their space. and of course the democratic party has to take them seriously as it vets them seriously. >> again, i think i included kamela harris another bright star. thank you so much. michael eric dyson, the book is
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come undone. a vote for paul davis is a vote for nancy pelosi, that is too risky. >> dishonest danny o'connor now admits he will vote for pelosi. >> pelosi has served as the top democrat in the house in 16 years. late today, president trump wrote on twitter, democrats please do not distance yourself from nancy pelosi. joined by the "hardball" roundtable, a republican strategist, and a democrat strategist and beth fouhy. when you start talking about
nine incumbents and dozens of candidates. can nancy pelosi get elected democratic leader by this democratic party? >> one of the things that i am concerned with with the democratic party, is democrats should not fall in this trap. republicans want democrats talking about nancy pelosi. this is a strategy they run every two years. when democrats are talking on the issues, speaking about the issues, particularly the local issues that matter in the district they are running. when they fall into the frame that republicans set up, they risk not winning. it is important, if i were advising these democrats, i would tell them to call this strategy from what it is. it is about distracting from the issues, from the corruption that is happening in the trump
administration and making it the argument about nancy pelosi and putting her on the ballot. >> again, these numbers, you have got a lot of democrats running in republican friendly districts. on the other hand, folks like an lex andrea ocasio-cortez. it makes me wonder, there was tea party uprising. i am looking at numbers here that i haven't seen for a long time. >> she has been an effective good leader for many years. but at this point, perhaps it is this time that she moves along. i don't think at this point the folks who are distancing themselves are doing so because they feel she is a woman, or an older woman, she should shut up.
why not step aside and yet younger people, new people come in and try it out and see how they do. >> so crowley, joe crowley was supposed to be, if pelosi steps aside, a lot of people think crowley, and he is gone. now who? >> people talking about joe kennedy, it is going to be a fight. no question about it. and maybe that right. that again, is a consequence of her sitting there for so long hanging on to that party with no regard to bringing up these younger members. >> we have seen this a number of times, saw it in pennsylvania, in ohio recently. republicans try out a lot of different messages, they try taxes, try culture war and end up on nancy pelosi, is it a strong strategy for republicans
to run on this year or represent the absence of any other strategy. >> it fires up our base. and nancy pelosi is prone to gaffes. i respect her to keep a caucus together. but she comes out and says things like $1,000 to an american family is crumbs. her stunning gaffe was about ms-13. she went after them with fury, and indicting them on everything. she said they are people too. gaffes like that could lead to follow-up questions. if you are a candidate that says either, maybe, i don't know. yes, i supporter, she seems to be siding with ms-13.
and all pelosi has to do is say this congress is my last congress as leader of the caucus, and she won't. >> is there a chance that happens. you get to september, and you see these democrats distancing themselves. for the good of the party, make this announcement. >> nancy pelosi is taken out of context all the time. the attacks that republicans are leveling, they are going to level regardless. if it is not nancy pelosi, they will find a new person. it was barack obama, hillary clinton. and first of all, it is typically a woman, and a woman of color. democrats are arguing about nan
s cy pelosi, they are not talking about the issues. democrats have to stay focused. laser focused. and i want to make another point. denny haster, the speaker of the house under the republicans is a child molester. democrats need to hit harder also. >> i think the republicans, to give some benefit of the doubt here, the haster thing didn't come out until years later. >> but nancy pelosi is a punching bag. >> nancy pelosi gives gifts to us. it wasn't taken out of context. she said they are human beings too. that is a stupid move. and democrats should focus on the issues. they should focus on health care. and the second issue, democrats would be smart if they ceded
this is a great economy. don't let nancy pelosi become an issue. don't respond and stick to the issues. >> evan, we have had you on a number of times and you are critical of donald trump. i think you are answering my questions about in terms of republicans finding unifying messages. >> it is a red bull to our base. >> the other thing though, the nancy pelosi argument was effective when barack obama was president. unify control. now we see poll after poll, voters want a check in donald trump in congress. so that argument is not effective. first lady melania trump's parents became citizen
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u.s. citizenship. the "new york times" reports the couple obtained responcitizensh after being sponsored by first lady melania. we are back with our "hardball" roundtable. interesting to see this turn of events with him. but it is an interesting irony isn't it. >> how about that. yeah, i mean, look, chain migration is a dirty way of putting it. trump talks about it as though, you know, if you let in one person, they are going to bring in 27-dozen relatives with them.
none of that is the case. it is effective. and the bond that trump has with his most loyal voters is around immigration. the picture that he paints of immigrants taking advantage of this policy is this dark view of what those people are and what they are going to do not his lovely parents-in-law. >> do you think that seeing trump's family benefit from the policy, does that scramble. >> i am waiting for that press conference melania was supposed to have about her own citizenship. >> donald trump's base doesn't care. his am of projection is levels never seen before. his base could care less. then not applying to to his own
family, it fires of democrats. it is yet another affront to democrats and to other people who are more objective observers of politics. and that is what the trouble is going to be. if you are someone who is not aligned to either party, this ongoing hypocrisy is not allowed. >> i think that we should actually not be talking about this. it is a distraction that ends up benefitting republicans. because republicans win independent voters on the issue of immigration. if democrats wanted to be smart, they should say, great, they came in the country legally. they should talk about donald trump is not serious about immigration.
66% of illegal immigrants who came to the united states overstayed their visa. and with the wall, they should hit him on eminent domain issue. it could take 20 to 30 years and double, triple the cost. on the mexico texas border, 1100 miles are privately owned. and a lot of cases with landowners. >> the roundtable is staying with us. you are watching "hardball."
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to consider just the facts of the evidence applies to the law. and they unanimously decided beyond a reasonable doubt donald trump had every constitutional right that everyone else gets. that is thery rule of law. so when speaken johnson and other house republicans start attacking this prosecution because they don't like the outcome, that is the opposite of supporting the rule of law. and the reality is that americans on november 5th are going to have a very simple choice. do you want in the oval office a convicted felon or not? and that's where we are. >> hewell, it's even probably o step beyond that. it's not just here is a person who doesn't have respect for the rule of n'law, here's a person populating the upper echelons in his inner circle with people whi are criminals or accused
>> martha: this is moving right along. in the middle of opening statements in new york city at the criminal trial for former president donald trump and the prosecution has said this is -- when he speaks to the jury saying it is a criminal conspiracy and cover-up. james freeman, assistant editor for the "wall street journal" editorial page joins us for his reaction as we get rolling. >> good to be here, thanks. it is not a crime what they are covering up. the prosecutor is talking about a conspiracy to do a cover-up of what? something that is not a crime, non-disclosure agreements are legal and this has been very clear-in-law and it has always been tried in court. the government cannot say whatever it wants are campaign expenses. it has to be stuff directly tied to campaigning. television ads, hiring staff. if i buy a new suit to look good and impress voters and influence
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