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at all facility bases across the united states they've already been on a higher state around the world, but already this could be seen as a propaganda victory for isis. >> it could be wolf and i have to completely agree with bobby. he makes a great point. al qaeda was generation x. isis is the millennials. they are depending on social networking. we have to counter -- aggressively counter the on-line narrative because this is the incarnation of the video gaming generation number one, we've got to go against that. we haven't done real well in that category yet. but then the second thing, a great debate going on in congress right now, i heard congresswoman gabbert on your show last night, tare' talking about the patriot act and the baggage associated with that particular legislation is huge but i think there is the potential for taking that 15-year-old act and modernizing it and strengthening it to expose the networks. we can do that now with meta
package for sending to his next victim. >> on april 24th, just five days after oklahoma city, a mail bomb killed gilbert murray. president of the california forestry association. a timber industry lobbying group. in an earlier incarnation the group had been targeted by radical environmentalists. >> the bomb that was sent to the forestry association was actually sent to his predecessor, a man named william denison. but he had retired and mr. murray had replaced him. the unabomber was very proud of himself. it didn't matter that his bomb had killed the wrong man. they were engaged in the same kind of work, which was anti-environment in his opinion. and so it was okay. >> i'd been to a number of bomb scenes over my career, and the last one in sacramento was probably one of the more horrific. the shrapnel is usually what maims or kills the victim.
for the joe come of social unrest. >> yeah, a question of pay now, pay later. pay now in the form of militarization of police, mass incarnation. you pay now if you say "we will invest in things that we know work." early childhood education, little raese, head start programs work, and after school, art education, investing in health care works. all of these things work. if we pay now we won't pay later. there is a national conversation that says we don't need to do it the way we are doing it. the current structure of it is untenable. hillary clinton alluded to that in her major speech earlier. we have to change the way we do it. structural solutions are part of the solution, rather. the other piece of this is that we have to change the way we police right now. in adegs to investing. we need a cultural shift from a language of containment and confinement and blem to one of
constrain constrain iran's potential to secure a deliverable nuclear weapon. in that sense i think the administration has won. the real problem for the u.s./israeli relationship and i've watched and analyzed carter bush 41 netanyahu and clinton in their first incarnation incarnation, i was a part of, that you have even in that dysfunctional -- those dysfunctional duos you had production. you literally had significant accomplishments. here you have dysfunction without production. you have a public feud. and the question that remains, are we talking meltdown further or are we talking dialdown? that's the real central fe kwr both the prime minister of israel and the president of the united states. >> i know your expertise is in the policy realm, but i also know you to be a very asuit political observer. do you believe that the duo of netanyahu and boehner, speaker
after oklahoma city, a mail bomb killed gilbert murray. president of the california forestry association. a timber industry lobbying group. in an earlier incarnation they had been targeted by radical environmentalists. >> the bomb that was sent to the forestry association was actually sent to his predecessor, a man named william denison. but he had retired and mr. murray had replaced him. the unabomber was proud of himself. it didn't matter that his bomb had killed the wrong man. they were engaged in the same kind of work, which was anti-environment in his opinion. and so it was okay. >> i'd been to a number of bomb scenes over my career, and the last one in sacramento was probably one of the more horrific. the shrapnel is usually what maims or kills the victim. most of the cases, nails, staples, and screws were used. that's an antipersonnel device. that's used to maim or kill.
netanyahu and clinton in their first incarnation. i was part of that. you had even in that dysfunctional -- those dysfunctionals duos you had production. you had significant accomplishment accomplishments. here you have dysfunction without production you have a public feud and the question that remains in the last 20 months michael, are we talking meltdown hurt? or are we talking dial down. and that's the real central question. both the prime minister of israel and this president. >> i know your expertise in the policy realm but i know you to be a very astute political observer. do you believe that the duo of netanyahu and boehner. have the political ability, should they seek to use it to scuttle this deal? >> well i think that will not see during the life of this republican-controlled congress
will it be president obama? >> there's a rift going back to 1948. publicly have you ever seen anything like this before where the personal animus is coming through in open declarations from both sides. >> it's unprecedented. you've had dysfunctional relationships in the past. even clinton and benjamin netanyahu in his first incarnation. amidst the dysfunction, there was cooperation and production. what's unique here is this has gone on for five years, number one. stakes right now are higher than they've ever been. >> here's some poll numbers. i want to put them up on the screen. gop's netanyahu invitation registered u.s. voters "wall street journal," nbc news perception. do you approve or disapprove of this visit to the united states and speech? 48% of americans said they disapprove. 30% approve. 22% undecided. >> that breaks down -- if you look at the internal polling
john kerry, secretary of state, saying that when it comes to iran, netanyahu is in his words quote, wrong. then invoking netanyahu supporting the iraq war which, by the way, secretary kerry did, too. but forgetting that convenient fact have you ever seen an administration an american administration criticize an israeli prime minister so directly as in this last week? >> well, no. even the showdown over loan guarantees managed to miss all the tensions to produce something significant, the madrid peace conference. that is the anomaly here. number one, it's gone on longer without production. we have got dysfunction in the relationship without producing anything. carter got along, bush got along, even bill clinton got along with benjamin netanyahu in his first incarnation to produce two interim agreements on the israeli-palestinian issue. here you have dysfunctional
buddhist it's like saying somebody is a christian. there are a lot of varieties of buddhism. in christianity you have catholics and christian scientists mormons. the same thing goes for buddhism. so the tradition that exists in the region that officer liu comes from tends to be a syncretic tradition with a lot of mixtures of different types, mainly zen and pure land along with some chinese customs that predate even buddhism. so the thing about the burning of the paper money isn't exactly a buddhist custom. it's more of a chinese folk custom. the monks would usually be chanting homage to buddha who is supposed to have prepared the pure land for people who can go there in their next incarnation and learn about the darma from him. that's a kind of tradition from
heaven. caesar augustus used that star on all of its coin. when you sang the nativity story the real star is in fact over a manger in healle bethlehem and little jewish boy was there. that is a dramatic counter claim to the message of roman imperial theology. >> i think these details become food for thought. i also agree with the expression that the devil is in the details. >> bernard is pastor and founder of christian cultural center in new york city. >> to me the birth of jesus is the miracle and mystery of the incarnation of god. we are taught to question or taught to treat things, too, but we are taught to never allow these discussions to actake awa face to face.