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Immediately going in, not even waiting for an all clear or permission to advance from a superior. >> training can give you a lot of things. one thing it cant is give you the courage to do what is necessary in dangerous situations, and thats what facing there. there was a lack of leadership. there was no incident command, no tactical command. none of that was taking place. it was chaotic. i did see the entire video, all 77 painful minutes of the video. the first responders, the first couple of of...

Reading -- my first read of the report is that failure of anyone coming forward sort of bred more and more failure to come forward. in other words there was a belief this was the kind of situation that were in. that structural failure from the get-go, and to reiterate what andrew was saying, this is like policing 101. its literally you cant get past day one without understanding an incident command and the need for a command post. so they dont have that structure, and so theyre all just sitting ...

We can rethink architecture and structure, what happened because that original breakdown, once again, cannot be overcome over the course of an hour. no one asserts the command post, no one asserts incident command and nobody says this is broken. this is absolutely broken. all of those things might be fixed by greater integration rather than 30, 20, whatever jurisdictions showing up at this small community. thats one of the takeaways we should consider, are they too small and the training is not ...

Clearly there was no leadership at all. no incident command set up or unified command. you had a variety of agencies responding. apparently nobody knew what was expected of them. what to do. no tactical planning to make entry into that classroom until after 70-some odd minutes passed. one thing after the other all bad. >> amy, in the press conference we heard a texas state lawmakers say that robb elementary was not prepared. what security lapses stood out? >> i think it is really important that ...

And then finally it does not spare any criticism from pete arredondo specifically but also the leadership level of the response to the incident, incident command was never established. essentially there was no leadership. there was no one there telling everyone else what to do. there was no formal collection and distribution of communication. so many of the people inside the school didnt really know what the victims were calling in in these panicked 911 calls. it just describes overall at each o...

Incident command and an incident command post. you cannot overcome that deficiency, and thats what you basically see. one of the reasons why people are trained in incident command over and over again, even nonfirst responders but people who are trained in it over and over again you dont know what will happen. that structure lets you maneuver, be flexible, make decisions in real time. and, therefore, you dont have to -- you dont have to re-create the wheel. and what they did, they threw out the w...

Went wrong. you had a a six-man department with what appears to be an ineffective chief who did not assume incident command. they did not follow protocol which is to immediately go in and save lives, even putting your own life on the line. but we have to be fair here, and, you know, three minutes before any police got to the building this individual had fired 100 shots. many of these kids probably could have been saved because they bled to death, but the fact is that it was real mass murder befo...

There should have been some coordination between all of them, how do we work together. who is doing what? what kind of resources do we have? what are the tools that we have? is that what you are talking about? >> yes. so this is actually a very well communicated and understood system all across the country. the incident command system, ics, and its established and organized and put out and trained by dhs. and that is the acceptable way of responding to any incident in any place with any group of...

Enforcement, is it odd they would all be deferring to someone at the level of arredondo? where is that own agency leadership here? >> under incident command, which is the way they should be organized at this point in time, when these others agencies would actually be under the command of the person in charge in ics. thats why table top exercises are so important when you bring people together and work through scenarios. thats the whole point of this. yeah, you could bring in a variety of agencie...

Committee, senior law enforcement official said there was no command, incident command inside. but there was no incident command outside either. so basically, no one was in charge. it was a free-for-all. >> yeah. a command post would have been established outside. >> of course. and that incident commander, which in this case would normally be arredondo, because he owns the turf. he is the school police chief. we are in a school. so by default he would be the incident commander. but he has the ab...