work with -- our amiss titanic inc. about how much we are going to miss him. he was a pain in the butt. -- parisian café. he was just unflappable. but always had a twinkle in his eye and a smirk, always up to trouble. so, that's going to be the stuff i miss most. but we've lost some incredible explore. and this world of exploration, especially marine exploration, is no lack of egos. and p.h. was, aside from all that -- he is not a person that wrote books, made movies or start stored in documentaries. he just did what he did for the love of what he was doing. that is something that i will misses well. >> given, clearly, that he had such a love for the titanic and to be able to go out there, as many times as he did, dozens of time, what does that say to you? >> there's something poetic in