To Eliot Higgins, founder of the open source investigations website bellingcat. Welcome to hardtalk, with me, stephen sackur. What is the truth behind the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines flight mh17 or the poisoning of the former russian spy Sergei Skripal, or the recent assassination of a Chechen Rebel fighter in berlin. My guest today thinks he can piece together truths from the World Wide Web. He is Eliot Higgins, the founder of investigative website bellingcat. In an age beset by fake news, has he really found a way to distinguish fact from fiction . Eliot higgins, welcome to hardtalk. I want to start if i may with a self definition. Would you describe yourself as a journalist or a data analyst or some sort of online detective . I like online detective. We do acts ofjournalism and some of the work we are doing but really, the way we work with bellingcat uses open source investigation on a whole range of topics that go beyond journalism. I find it very difficult to define what we
As of course you understand so no ambassador has yet been or no candidate has yet been named to the position but he certainly has had a decorated career serving his country absolutely a man of the highest integrity. You testified about when you 1st learned that mayor giuliani and some of his associates were. Had a Concerted Campaign against you when did that 1st come to your attention we were picking up rumors from ukrainians i think you know kind of in the November December 20th 100 time period. But then in january february of course march it became more obvious. Its some point i believe you testified that minister of arc of alerted you to this campaign yes when was that. He had. He had a conversation with me in february of 21000 and do remember what he related to you yes he said that mr witt sankoh was working with mayor giuliani. Through these 2 individuals mr parnassus and mr freeman that they. Would basically want to remove me from post and that they were they were working on that
A crisp your walls catastrophic when you have far as where the smog ends up in new zealand you know that its a catastrophic fire we have to repeal some of the vegetation wars because people couldnt get proper access on roads because trees that form of the roads and excess grain legislation that said you cannot have a trade in paid the the capacity of fire trucks to arrive at areas and people to evacuate from there is obviously we have to accept that the climate is changing and its harder and its drawing but no legislation in our palm thats going to change that we need you know when the peoples republic of china decide to change in india the czars the change and. Then i suppose we can have some water of a medic and against that the Chinese Communist party claims to be engaging in the largest Renewable Program in World History but what you seem to be saying is its not just Climate Change its. Some of the responsibility has to be the Prime Minister Scott Morrison. Look at china can say th
Committee. This seems more appropriate for the subcommittee on Human Resources at the Foreign Affairs committee, if theres issues with implement, disagree was with the administration it would seem like it would be more appropriate setting instead of at impeachment hearing where the ambassador is not a material fact witness to anything, any of the accusations that are being hurled at the president for this impeachment inquiry. I have several questions i think, mr. Castor wants to get to. I know ms. Stefanik him give a few quick question for the ambassador. Yield to you, ms. Stefanik. Thank you, mr. Nunes. Ambassador yovanovitch, the gentlewoman will suspend. What is the interruption for this time . It is our time. You are not recognized. Mr. Nunes, you are i just recognize under 660 youre not allowed deal time except to spin is the Ranking Member yield a time to another thats not accurate. That is accurate. Ambassador yovanovitch, i want to thank you for being here today. You are not re
Minister Scott Morrison well look at china can say that but they are going to put on a lot more call for power stations in the struggle as in the coming years. Its kind of which way do you want to. Also we have to acknowledge that china doesnt have to sign up to any of the Emission Reduction process they might be signing up to the treaty but their actual active active action wont start till 2030 likewise with india and you know as i always say to people if you think you can change chinas actions in regards Carbon Emissions then why stop there maybe you should make a move on getting them to. The way to people who are incarcerated in excess of a 1000000 a north west of china well of course china also denies that the existence of any reeducation camps of the sort you talked about in Mainstream Media but lets get to our Australian Citizen judy in a songe in solitary confinement in britain what do you and. Stand australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison is doing for Julian Assange the worlds