and college admissions is in the balance. tomorrow, one of the most diverse supreme courts ever will hear whether race conscious programs at harvard and the university of north carolina our constitutional. joining me now, melissa murray, professor of law at new york university and msnbc legal analyst. she s also a lock lurk to judge sotomayor, and charlie savage, washington correspondent for the new york times and and miss nbc contributor. welcome to both of you. we will go ladies first here. the fact that the court took up these cases is significant. give me a sense of perspective on why they are such a big deal. you are right, alex. it is significant. the court took up affirmative action challenge just a few years ago in 2016. there, in a pretty close vote, it was again during that period of time when justice goglia passed away. justice gorsuch had not been nominated to a seat yet. there was a majority of justices who believed that race could be used permissive lee in